Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

[olefolks]

Here is one I did on the Artistic wire gadget. 12 double wraps of 32ga. which came out to 1.6 OHMs. It is somewhat slow to heat up and the flavor was down using ReadyX. The flavor did pick up once the wick got totally saturated.

And yes I still have my sigelei Zmax V3s that Andy made immortal.

 

[tchavei]

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Here is one I did on the Artistic wire gadget. 12 double wraps of 32ga. which came out to 1.6 OHMs. It is somewhat slow to heat up and the flavor was down using ReadyX. The flavor did pick up once the wick got totally saturated.

And yes I still have my sigelei Zmax V3s that Andy made immortal.

Jeez that looks like a capacitor coil lol. Anyway, hats off to you keeping the coil so strait. I had some difficulties keeping mine lined up with just 6 double wire wraps

Regards
Tony

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[JeremyR]

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Here is one I did on the Artistic wire gadget. 12 double wraps of 32ga. which came out to 1.6 OHMs. It is somewhat slow to heat up and the flavor was down using ReadyX. The flavor did pick up once the wick got totally saturated.

And yes I still have my Sigelei Zmax V3s that Andy made immortal.

Yeah that coil will heat slow in single battery config. It just doesn't have the power to push it. I had the same result with single battery. That's why I didn't move to this build till I started stacking.. I do get clouds in 2-3 seconds with stacked batteries cranked up over 15 in voltage mode. The low ohms and added mass of the coil takes more power to heat fast.

 

[fairmana]

Here is one I did on the Artistic wire gadget.

Olefolks, I've never heard of that gadget before. Does it really help make it easier to wind coils? I did a quick search and found this on Amazon. Is that the gadget you're talking about? I might get me one if I hear good things about it. It's 9 bucks with the shipping included. It might be cheaper if I can find one in a local craft shop.

Thanks for any info!

 

[olefolks]

Olefolks, I've never heard of that gadget before. Does it really help make it easier to wind coils? I did a quick search and found this on Amazon. Is that the gadget you're talking about? I might get me one if I hear good things about it. It's 9 bucks with the shipping included. It might be cheaper if I can find one in a local craft shop.

Thanks for any info!

Fair, it is a piece of cake when using the Artistic gadget. Especially when you are doing micros. When you do your first one, you don't want to quit making coils cause its so easy. Here is a video on the gadget that Super X did a while back. I do it a little differently in that I start my wraps right up against the rod holder. Hope that makes sense. With pressure on the wire it makes as tight a coil as you can get, I think.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rua_l_IpBWk&feature=youtu.be


I love this thing!! Hobby Lobby and Michaels carry them here in Dallas.

 

[AngiBe]

Wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions. I helped my friend with her first step up from an ego VV and told her the Sigelei Zmax V3 telescope had great reviews. She went ahead and bought it and for the first 3 days-vape bliss. She just texted me that it will not fire at all.

She swapped out her batts, put on a new topper, (Nautilus Mini BVC), screwed/unscrewed and screwed again the telecope, made sure she didn't accidentally have it turned off-everything we could think of with no luck.

I don't own this mod so I don't know what else to tell her and praying she didn't get a lemon since I suggested it. Any ideas what could be wrong?

 

[fairmana]

Fair, it is a piece of cake when using the Artistic gadget. Especially when you are doing micros. When you do your first one, you don't want to quit making coils cause its so easy. Here is a video on the gadget that Super X did a while back. I do it a little differently in that I start my wraps right up against the rod holder. Hope that makes sense. With pressure on the wire it makes as tight a coil as you can get, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rua_l_IpBWk&feature=youtu.be

I love this thing!! Hobby Lobby and Michaels carry them here in Dallas.

I might have to pick one of these up. Thanks for the info!

 

[yzer]

Wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions. I helped my friend with her first step up from an ego VV and told her the Sigelei Zmax V3 telescope had great reviews. She went ahead and bought it and for the first 3 days-vape bliss. She just texted me that it will not fire at all.

She swapped out her batts, put on a new topper, (Nautilus Mini BVC), screwed/unscrewed and screwed again the telecope, made sure she didn't accidentally have it turned off-everything we could think of with no luck.

I don't own this mod so I don't know what else to tell her and praying she didn't get a lemon since I suggested it. Any ideas what could be wrong?

There is about a 98% chance the issue is operator error. Diagnosing problems with APVs of any make by proxy rarely works. We would be happy to help if she checks in here. Nothing beats helping someone who has hands on the equipment.

 

[AngiBe]

There is about a 98% chance the issue is operator error. Diagnosing problems with APVs of any make by proxy rarely works. We would be happy to help if she checks in here. Nothing beats helping someone who has hands on the equipment.

UGH thanks and don't I know it. I can't help her cuz I don't have the mod, I haven't seen it and have no clue what the heck is going on. She did tell me that when using the 18350 batt at first, it seemed snug. Now, she can hear the batt rattle a bit. So I'm thinking the spring has collapsed a bit or something is not connecting. It will not power at all- no Sigelei banner thing on the OLED..nothing.

She is going to contact the vendor and hopefully they help her. I just thought there was a rare chance this issue sounded "familiar" and someone could tell me a possible solution. Thanks anyway very much.

 

[yzer]

Possible causes of no firing are too numerous to mention. But...

-menu item #1 switched to OFF
-battery reversed
-battery dead
-coil issues

 

[AngiBe]

Possible causes of no firing are too numerous to mention. But...

-menu item #1 switched to OFF
-battery reversed
-battery dead
-coil issues

Ok thanks again..all have been checked. And it won't power to even check if it's on or off even with topper off of it. Hopefully the vendor can just ship her a new one.

 

[fairmana]

Wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions. I helped my friend with her first step up from an ego VV and told her the Sigelei Zmax V3 telescope had great reviews. She went ahead and bought it and for the first 3 days-vape bliss. She just texted me that it will not fire at all.

She swapped out her batts, put on a new topper, (Nautilus Mini BVC), screwed/unscrewed and screwed again the telecope, made sure she didn't accidentally have it turned off-everything we could think of with no luck.

I don't own this mod so I don't know what else to tell her and praying she didn't get a lemon since I suggested it. Any ideas what could be wrong?

Sorry to hear you're friend is having problems AngiBe. Is the device turning on? In other words, can he/she navigate the menu? Whenever the batteries are removed and replaced, the display will show "Sigelei" for a few seconds and then go blank. After that, the fire button needs to be clicked 5 times to fully turn on the device (Sigelei will be shown again for a few seconds followed by a scrolling "System: On" message). Once that happens, the device is ready to rock-n-roll and should remember the last voltage or wattage setting before the batteries were replaced.

That's the simplest thing that crosses my mind that could be happening. Someone that isn't familiar with the device might stumble on the "5 button click" step. If the problem is beyond that, give us a little more detail of the symptoms, and we'll try to help.

One last thing: Menu Item #1 toggles the device output on and off so if you want to put it in your pocket, it won't fire by accident. The options are "Out On" and "Out Off". That menu option needs to be set to "Out On" for it to work. If it's Off, whenever you try to fire the device it will display "Out Off" to remind you that the output is disabled. I doubt that's the problem, but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case.

Best of luck! Let us know if your friend is still having issues.

 

[yzer]

UGH thanks and don't I know it. I can't help her cuz I don't have the mod, I haven't seen it and have no clue what the heck is going on. She did tell me that when using the 18350 batt at first, it seemed snug. Now, she can hear the batt rattle a bit. So I'm thinking the spring has collapsed a bit or something is not connecting. It will not power at all- no Sigelei banner thing on the OLED..nothing.

She is going to contact the vendor and hopefully they help her. I just thought there was a rare chance this issue sounded "familiar" and someone could tell me a possible solution. Thanks anyway very much.

All authentic Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 will show Sigelei on the OLED display when booted up after the battery has been removed and replaced. It's not unusual to see older V3s without the laser etched logos on the tube and/or battery cap. Most newer V3s have these.

 

[AngiBe]

All authentic Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 will show Sigelei on the OLED display when booted up after the battery has been removed and replaced. It's not unusual to see older V3s without the laser etched logos on the tube and/or battery cap. Most newer V3s have these.

Yes the Sigelei on the OLED is not showing up anymore at all..batts in, taken out, back in. Nothing. It's dead. Her batts are fully charged according to her charger. Batts, charger and Sigelei all new-three days old. She got the Sigelei Zmax V3 kit so everything came together. Don't think I can put the vendors name here but it's the same one PBusardo mentioned in his video when he did the review on this mod. So I believe reputable.

ETA- she just texted me that the vendor is sending her a new one and she's sending this one back. SHEW! I was feeling responsible on this one. Thanks again!

 

[fairmana]

Now, she can hear the batt rattle a bit. So I'm thinking the spring has collapsed a bit or something is not connecting. It will not power at all- no Sigelei banner thing on the OLED..nothing.

She shouldn't be hearing the battery rattle in there... that's not right.

It's possible she over-tightened the battery in the tube and broke the circuit card loose from it's internal support. That shifting of the circuit card can cause the positive contact to move deep enough into the device that it keeps the top of the battery from making good contact anymore. If she sticks her finger in there, she can push on that positive contact and see if it can be moved. It should be farther "out" then the black plastic washer that is visible in there.

Edit: Glad to hear the vendor is replacing it. Make sure she is aware that this device doesn't like over-tightened batteries. There is a guide that Yzer posted on this thread to minimize the chances of that happening when inserting batteries.

 

[yzer]

She shouldn't be hearing the battery rattle in there... that's not right.

It's possible she over-tightened the battery in the tube and broke the circuit card loose from it's internal support. That shifting of the circuit card can cause the positive contact to move deep enough into the device that it keeps the top of the battery from making good contact anymore. If she sticks her finger in there, she can push on that positive contact and see if it can be moved.

Edit: Glad to hear the vendor is replacing it. Make sure she is aware that this device doesn't like over-tightened batteries. There is a guide that Yzer posted on this thread to minimize the chances of that happening when inserting batteries.

Now you are going to make me look it up again. It's probably time for a repost.

 

[AngiBe]

She shouldn't be hearing the battery rattle in there... that's not right.

It's possible she over-tightened the battery in the tube and broke the circuit card loose from it's internal support. That shifting of the circuit card can cause the positive contact to move deep enough into the device that it keeps the top of the battery from making good contact anymore. If she sticks her finger in there, she can push on that positive contact and see if it can be moved.

Edit: Glad to hear the vendor is replacing it. Make sure she is aware that this device doesn't like over-tightened batteries. There is a guide that Yzer posted on this thread to minimize the chances of that happening when inserting batteries.

This is exactly what I thought she may have did to be honest. I will copy the guide Yzer posted and send it to her. I told her to buy this mod cuz I've read nothing but great reviews on it. And she did love it and said it was perfect for her. I'm sure when the new one gets here and reading this guide your talking about, she will be fine.

Thanks so much!

 

[yzer]

Here you go.

Sigelei Zmax Telescopic battery tube adjustment

Flat top or button top battery: doesn't matter with these instructions.

-For 18350 battery. Using the tall or short battery caps screw down the telescopic tube to the shortest length. Screw down the battery cap all the way. If the spring in a long battery cap has compressed it may not fit 18350 well. The short battery cap is a better fit with 18350.

-For 2x18350: Use the tall battery cap. The short cap will leave tube threads exposed with 2x18350

-For 18490, 18500 and 18650 batteries using the tall (15mm) battery cap. Place the battery into position in the tube and adjust the tube length until only 1/16" to 1/8" of the battery extends past the end of the tube. Tighten the tall cap all of the way down.

-For 18490, 18500 and 18650 batteries with the short (10mm) battery cap. Place the battery into position in the tube and adjust the tube length so that the base of the battery is 1/8" to 3/16" below the end of the tube. Tighten the cap all of the way down.

Keep in mind that the battery springs found in both the tall battery cap and the short battery cap are the same size. They are identical springs. For all batteries longer than 18350 the goal is compress the spring about 1/2 of its relaxed length regardless of the cap size. The short cap will give you the shortest overall length for the Sigelei with a 18350 battery inside. For 18490, 18500 and 18650 batteries the overall length of the Sigelei for each battery size will be the exactly the same when using either the tall or short battery caps so long as the spring is 1/2 compressed. The only advantage to using one cap or another at sizes above 18350 is the tall cap will be much easier to screw on than the short cap.

Typical lengths I get on Sigelei V3 Telescopic with different batteries. Just an estimate depending on how tight I compress the spring.

18350: 100mm with short battery cap, 105mm with long cap.
18490: 111-114mm with either battery cap, spring 1/2 compressed.
18500: 112-115mm with either battery cap, spring 1/2 compressed.
18650: 127-130mm with either battery cap, spring 1/2 compressed.
2x18350: 132-135mm with the long battery cap, spring 1/2 compressed.

 

[yzer]

OK I'm done editing the Sigelei Zmax Telescopic battery tube adjustment post. It was copied from last December and a little out of date.

 

[yzer]

Varitube has a very good rep for selling Sigeleis. They cost a little more than some vendors but the 90-day vendor warranty and customer service always get good comments here.