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Silver Plating always seems to break something -- arcing

Discussion in 'Mech Mods' started by vapeNoob4, Feb 27, 2018.

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  1. vapeNoob4

    vapeNoob4 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2015
    Hi. Here's the deal. I've owned a hammer of god that went dead. Sent it in for repair, got it back, worked for a day, went dead again, threw it away. I've also owned an 11:11 mod, stopped using that because of a hot switch button issue. Silver-plated firing pin afaik on the HOG. Owned a Sub-ohm innovations legendary mech mod with the broken silver-plated needle firing system. It looked like a circle held together with a grommet but broken into pieces. That mod worked for about a year and a half but won't fire now.

    Call me out if I'm wrong on this. Here's my current issue on a recent purchase I made from Armageddon manuf. one of their mech tubes:

    BTW, if you're interested check out my Instagram mentioned below to see the mods I have or at least what I've taken pictures of.

    Here's a copy of the e-mail contact I sent to Armageddon manuf. and the picture I sent them as well. If anyone on ECF has ideas let me know the more heads the better. =)

    I'm guessing one solution would to be to use sandpaper.

  2. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Tarnish remover?
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  3. CagedSpam

    CagedSpam Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2015
    FoPo, Oregon
    And More Deoxit Gold or Noalox?
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  4. Ben85

    Ben85 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 16, 2014
    Kent, UK
    I’m intrigued, what build are you using?
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  5. vapeNoob4

    vapeNoob4 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2015
    I'm using the mod in stacked configuration using 2 18650 batteries. I tried the mod with 20700 sanyo B batteries and it also works with those, with the included spacers.

    The RDA I'm using is the stainless steel Armageddon apocalypse gen 2. It has 9 wraps of 22ga Kanthal on a 4mm coiling rod, ohming someplace between 0.3 and 0.35. Protruding positive pin.

    Ariel from Armageddon e-mailed me and is sending a replacement copper firing pin to me. Haven't received it yet might be a week. Mod currently doesn't work now but hopefully with the new non-coated copper pin it won't arc nearly as much, that's my guess at least.
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  6. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    I don't run stacked mods but I can't see that they'd be any better than regular mechs regarding cleaning. In fact, I'd guess they require more cleaning.
    A white pencil eraser might help remove the black marks on the pin. After cleaning that up, apply deoxit red, then deoxit gold to all contact points. This should be done regularly. You'll have to do the same with your copper pin.
    You might also need to adjust the switch.
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  7. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    What 18650s? You're seriously overstressing those Sanyos with that build. You do know ohms, right, and the cdr of your batteries?

    Sent from my Thor E using Tapatalk
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  8. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2011
    DC current has a propensity to arc, the higher the current the more arcing will occur. With the current you're pushing you'll always have issues if you don't use something (Deoxit or dielectric grease) to help guard against arcing.
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  9. vapeNoob4

    vapeNoob4 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2015
    Here's the new copper switch firing pin sent by the manuf. to me. Installed, no issues now -- works fine.


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  10. VHRB2014

    VHRB2014 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2014
    Nic`d Up in Cali.
    Me thinks, that silver is such a good conductor, that with that amperage your using, it's arcing across the air gap before actual contact is ever made.
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  11. irradiated

    irradiated Full Member

    Jan 3, 2018
    I own a VCM2 and it gets arc marks. I just rub it off with a pencil eraser, and all is well again. Never had it stop firing on me. The silver plating has been arc'd right off in the spots where it usually arcs though, exposing the copper, which also gets some arc marks on it. It's just what happens when you're putting a lot of current through your mod. You could probably avoid it by buying a mod that uses a clutch system, like the Broadside, where the battery is always in contact, or by building higher so there's less current.

    Other than that, just make sure you push down hard and fast, to reduce arcing and make sure it's a solid connection. If it's not pushed in firmly, it's going to arc a bit more, same with if you are slow pushing the button in. Deoxit and stuff could help, but I personally don't bother because I haven't had any issues that a pencil eraser and polish couldn't fix.
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  12. Alex83

    Alex83 Full Member

    Dec 19, 2014
    Rock Hill, USA
    Using Ronin X2 Ambition Mod for over 2 months. It gets few arcing spots on the fire pin, but not big deal. It still hits like train.

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