Silver Plating always seems to break something -- arcing

[vapeNoob4]

Hi. Here's the deal. I've owned a hammer of god that went dead. Sent it in for repair, got it back, worked for a day, went dead again, threw it away. I've also owned an 11:11 mod, stopped using that because of a hot switch button issue. Silver-plated firing pin afaik on the HOG. Owned a Sub-ohm innovations legendary mech mod with the broken silver-plated needle firing system. It looked like a circle held together with a grommet but broken into pieces. That mod worked for about a year and a half but won't fire now.

Call me out if I'm wrong on this. Here's my current issue on a recent purchase I made from Armageddon manuf. one of their mech tubes:

BTW, if you're interested check out my Instagram mentioned below to see the mods I have or at least what I've taken pictures of.

Here's a copy of the e-mail contact I sent to Armageddon manuf. and the picture I sent them as well. If anyone on ECF has ideas let me know the more heads the better. =)

I'm guessing one solution would to be to use sandpaper.

Hi,

Recently I purchased your Wolverine stacked mechanical tube mod. I have had the mod for about a week now it's serial number 41 I think. The mod doesn't work anymore and I think it's because the firing pin in the switch housing is plated with silver. If you look at the picture I attached there's a lot of signs of arc-ing where the silver has turned black.

Do you offer replacement pins in either copper or brass? I have had lots of issues with silver plating before on Vaperz Cloud products and some SOI mods I've owned in the past. I figure the mod can't fire because of all of the residue built up on the contact pin. It's only a week old.

Other than that the mech mod has worked perfectly until it stopped working this morning when I woke up. I've tried Sanyo 20700 and also Samsung 18650 batteries and both configurations don't work now.

Sorry for the bad news and I don't mean to rip on your company or anything. I'm on Insagram under the name DRBvapes and have a Apocalypse Gen 2 stainless deck on the mod. Only RDA I've used on it since I received it in the mail. If you want to you can look me up and check out a picture of my setup.

It was order number (omitted). Thanks for reading this. I'm a pretty good vaper I've been using mech mods now for about 3 years since I quit smoking.

If you have any suggestions on how to maybe clean the contact pin let me know I'm not sure how to remove all of the arc residue.

Thanks,
Doug

 

[r77r7r]

Tarnish remover?

 

[CagedSpam]

And More Deoxit Gold or Noalox?

 

[Ben85]

I’m intrigued, what build are you using?

 

[vapeNoob4]

I’m intrigued, what build are you using?

I'm using the mod in stacked configuration using 2 18650 batteries. I tried the mod with 20700 sanyo B batteries and it also works with those, with the included spacers.

The RDA I'm using is the stainless steel Armageddon apocalypse gen 2. It has 9 wraps of 22ga Kanthal on a 4mm coiling rod, ohming someplace between 0.3 and 0.35. Protruding positive pin.

Ariel from Armageddon e-mailed me and is sending a replacement copper firing pin to me. Haven't received it yet might be a week. Mod currently doesn't work now but hopefully with the new non-coated copper pin it won't arc nearly as much, that's my guess at least.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I don't run stacked mods but I can't see that they'd be any better than regular mechs regarding cleaning. In fact, I'd guess they require more cleaning.
A white pencil eraser might help remove the black marks on the pin. After cleaning that up, apply deoxit red, then deoxit gold to all contact points. This should be done regularly. You'll have to do the same with your copper pin.
You might also need to adjust the switch.

 

[KenD]

I'm using the mod in stacked configuration using 2 18650 batteries. I tried the mod with 20700 sanyo B batteries and it also works with those, with the included spacers.

The RDA I'm using is the stainless steel Armageddon apocalypse gen 2. It has 9 wraps of 22ga Kanthal on a 4mm coiling rod, ohming someplace between 0.3 and 0.35. Protruding positive pin.

Ariel from Armageddon e-mailed me and is sending a replacement copper firing pin to me. Haven't received it yet might be a week. Mod currently doesn't work now but hopefully with the new non-coated copper pin it won't arc nearly as much, that's my guess at least.

What 18650s? You're seriously overstressing those Sanyos with that build. You do know ohms, right, and the cdr of your batteries?

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[AzPlumber]

DC current has a propensity to arc, the higher the current the more arcing will occur. With the current you're pushing you'll always have issues if you don't use something (Deoxit or dielectric grease) to help guard against arcing.

 

[vapeNoob4]

Here's the new copper switch firing pin sent by the manuf. to me. Installed, no issues now -- works fine.

 

[VHRB2014]

Me thinks, that silver is such a good conductor, that with that amperage your using, it's arcing across the air gap before actual contact is ever made.

 

[irradiated]

I own a VCM2 and it gets arc marks. I just rub it off with a pencil eraser, and all is well again. Never had it stop firing on me. The silver plating has been arc'd right off in the spots where it usually arcs though, exposing the copper, which also gets some arc marks on it. It's just what happens when you're putting a lot of current through your mod. You could probably avoid it by buying a mod that uses a clutch system, like the Broadside, where the battery is always in contact, or by building higher so there's less current.

Other than that, just make sure you push down hard and fast, to reduce arcing and make sure it's a solid connection. If it's not pushed in firmly, it's going to arc a bit more, same with if you are slow pushing the button in. Deoxit and stuff could help, but I personally don't bother because I haven't had any issues that a pencil eraser and polish couldn't fix.

 

[Alex83]

Using Ronin X2 Ambition Mod for over 2 months. It gets few arcing spots on the fire pin, but not big deal. It still hits like train.

 

[Outcast]

What 18650s? You're seriously overstressing those Sanyos with that build. You do know ohms, right, and the cdr of your batteries?

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.3-.35 is stressing the cells I think not I run at .28 on my stacks that’s 30 amps on 30 amps cells bla .3-.35 if just fine


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[KenD]

.3-.35 is stressing the cells I think not I run at .28 on my stacks that’s 30 amps on 30 amps cells bla .3-.35 if just fine


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The Sanyo Be are max 16 amps, I believe. So yeah, 28 amps is overstressing them...

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[Ben85]

I think I can sense where this thread is going...

 

[Outcast]

I think I can sense where this thread is going...

Nope not going there staying within the safe 30amp range


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[Outcast]

The Sanyo Be are max 16 amps, I believe. So yeah, 28 amps is overstressing them...

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He said he did not like the 20700B and using 18650s so “if” he is using 30amp CDR cells he can be down to .28 and .3-.35 is. No stress


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[Outcast]

Op just use a Pencil eraser on your cell and contact to get the black off


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[KenD]

He said he did not like the 20700B and using 18650s so “if” he is using 30amp CDR cells he can be down to .28 and .3-.35 is. No stress


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And I asked what 18650s the op uses (never got an answer), and the op did say that he also uses Sanyo 20700Bs. We all know where you stand...

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[vapeNoob4]

And I asked what 18650s the op uses (never got an answer), and the op did say that he also uses Sanyo 20700Bs. We all know where you stand...

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I really have no idea what CDR is, maybe you could link a sticky article or YT vid that explains.

My 18650s I use are Samsung 30Qs in the pink wrapper
My 20700 I use are Sanyo Bs in the red wrapper

Sorry to bump a old thread.