Siver Bullet or ProVari.

[CaptJR]

I have looked at them all and picked these two. One lower price range and one higher price range. Please do not talk about other ones. I don't need more confusion.
I just need to figure out if the higher price range is worth it. So between these two the biggest differnce is VV. Is going from EGO to the 3.7 on the Silver Bullet enough or does the higher voltages make that much differnce? Why is higher voltage better. I've seen several posts that people say the higher voltage is better but they never seem to explain what exactly is better about it.

And, any other comments about these two would be welcome. Thank you.

 

[CaptJR]

If it helps you reply to me. Here is my order of importance.

1. Taste
2. Vapor
3. TH

 

[5vz]

I can't be of much help CaptJR, but I can suggest the SB may be able to be made vv when a little device called the Kick is finished and for sale, hopefully in a month or two. It will be an additional $45 to $50. I am contemplating buying a SB myself, for work and possibly adding in a Kick later. I don't think I have seen any complaints, user issues, or failures on the SB.

I do have high volt, but no vv. I like higher voltage vaping b/c I get more "smoke" and TH. It does tend to take away some of the flavor on the lighter flavored liquids, and will use more of the liquid. I think that may hold true for vv also, but I am not certain. Someone will come along with some vv experience soon.

 

[Nomoreash]

They are both great mods you'll just have to consider what will work best for you. If you use dual core the SB will most likely be a better choice as the Provari is more amp limited due to the booster circuitry.

Other than that the Provari has the edge imo. It's not necessarily higher voltage is better but it's the choice of voltage and being able to find your sweet spot with a wide rage or attys/cartos which vv allows you to do. With the SB you'll have to be more selective as to what atty/carto works best for you at 5v rather than just putting a atty/carto on the Provari and being able to adjust the voltage to your preference. You may perfer a juice at 4.2v, 4.6 or whatever with a certain atty. The Provari or any vv will allow you to find that.

 

[lilac7779]

Capt, I started out with pen type battery ecigs and after spending a good amount of time recharging, battery size is important to me. It gets tedious recharging ALL the time.

The general rule of thumb seems to be that each 100mah your battery has = 1 hour of moderate vaping.

 

[Maximillian]

Heyas CaptJR,

Let me start by saying that I do own a provari, but don't own a silver bullet.

If you are going to choose one of those two mods to purchase, and either is within your budget, I do think the provari would serve you better. You say the most important things to you are taste, vapor, and throat hit, in that order. With a variable voltage device like the provari, you can get more or less taste/vapor/throat hit, with whatever carto or juice you are using, by changing the voltage. Some cartos work better at one voltage than at another. Some juices taste better with a warmer or cooler vape. Variable voltage lets you dial in whatever woks/tastes/feels best for you.

Also, the provari is a great device. The build quality is really top notch. It's expensive, but I think it's a bargain considering how well made it feels to me.

Don't get me wrong. I've heard a lot of really great things about the silver bullet. I'm sure it's also a very well made, great performing pv. But if it's either or, why not choose the pv that you can change to suit your mood or taste of the moment?

Just my



Maximillian the Courier Observant

 

[upStomp]

I have both and love both. The edge definitely goes to the ProVari, which I haven't put down since buying it a couple weeks ago. Beyond just being able to fine-tune your voltage, it regulates that voltage. I rarely have to adjust it and there's no power curve to deal with like with regular big battery mods (including the Silver Bullet). The ability to use pretty much any traditional (non-DC) atty or carto at pretty much any resistance is also a huge benefit. The Provari is also smaller than the SB (though it is heavier), especially when using the standard 18500 battery and end cap.

However, the Silver Bullet is probably the best selling 18650 mod of all time - and for good reason. It's rugged, comfortable, has a great button, can handle 3.7 & 6 volts, and is much easier to use than the ProVari. Really the only thing it's missing is the thing it was not designed for: regulated variable voltage. Yes, you will notice a significant performance improvement over your eGo. But most of this performance is going to depend on the resistance of the atomizer or cartomizer you're using.

My SB has been relegated to backup status for now, waiting for the Kick to come out to put her back on the front burner. Still, you could do a lot worse than to make the jump from an eGo to an SB, especially if cost is a concern.

Either way you will have more options than you currently do with your eGo. The ProVari will enable you to use higher resistance atties and cartos, and the SB will give you better reliability when using lower resistance hardware (over the eGo battery - which can fry at 2.0Ω and lower).

 

[LadyWeeps]

My husband has both units and both are quality products. If you are ruff on equipment or tend to drop things alot, I'd go with the SB. You will notice the difference in vape compared to an ego. The SB will also open up a better range of low resist atties and cartos. The SB is simple to use and replace batts in. The button is very pocket friendly also.

With that said, in the long run, the Provari is probably better money spent. You may find that you don't like a very hot vape so you dial your Provari to 3.7 or 4.0 ohms and nuff said. But, you might find that 4.8 ohms is where its at and you can do that too!

FWIW, my husband ALWAYS has his Provari with him, but he has misplaced his SB a few times.

 

[markfm]

They are probably pretty comparable, if you are set on using 1.5 ohm dual coil cartos. The Provari site (ProVari Variable Voltage Ecig: Best Variable Voltage E Cig Available!) indicates a 2.5 amp limit (I've also seen 12W referenced, elsewhere), which means you should be able to run it to 3.75V with a 1.5 ohm carto. That number is close enough to the nominal 3.7V on a silver bullet that if you use a good battery in the SB, and change them before they are drained too far, you'll get about the same performance. (it's nominal 9W with either unit, if you use a 1.5 ohm DC).

On the other hand, if you're flexible about cartos/atties, don't have a particular hard spot about needing to use 1.5 ohm DC all the time, the Provari is more flexible. Go to a 2 ohm carto or atty and I believe you will be able to enjoy the higher power capability of the Provari compared to the SB. The ability to adjust the power to suit the eliquid, and to go to higher power if needed, directly relates to the taste, vapor production, and throat hit.

I don't own either, the above is just the math -- a single high capacity 3.7V battery vs. a mod which should limit at about 3.75V due to a 2.5A max current capability.

For reference, a 3.3V eGo with a dual coil carto would run 3.3x3.3/1.5 = 7.26W. Either SB or Provari should be noticeable, but not earth shaking, as a bump in power (vapor, flavor,...).

(For higher power capability in a VV that would be a different mod, but you've asked for a comparison between SB and Provari.)

 

[Tracy211]

My husband and I have been using Silver Bullets for 8 months now. (We own 3 SB and 1 BB) Never had any problems with them and they are very well made. He works in precast concrete and it has taken a beating! Not to mention all the dust and dirt he is working in all day. lol Never a problem!
We decided for xmas we would get Provari's just for the vv. (And as a treat to ourselves for not smoking for 10 months) We have been using them since Saturday and really like them. They are a little smaller in size to the SB and it is really nice to be able to kick up the voltage with different juices to find the "sweet spot". I would say that if you have the money ... go with the Provari just because in a few months you will wonder if the vv is beter and get one anyway. lol
But the SB are a really great choice too! They have gotten us where we are and we will still keep them and use them.

Hope my 2 cents helps and good luck!

 

[RIMP]

I've had both the Provari and the SB They are both well made mods......to me the edge is with the Provari I just dial in the voltage I want and good to go......I've used 1.5 dc's and they worked up to 3.9v........I prefer the Boge 2.0's and the sky is the limit with these.......my nickel

 

[mikebabs]

Just a word of caution!!! If you go from a 3.7 volt device to a variable voltage device please consider that once you get the VV device, you are going to be experimenting with increased voltage. At higher voltages, you will be burning, vaporizing the e-liquid more quickly and consequently taking in more nicotene than you initially bargained for.
Now, having said that, this might NOT be a problem for most folks. BUT, for older people and those on blood pressure medications you might realize a SHARP increase in your blood pressure. Consider lowering your nic level at the higher voltages
and also when experimenting with any new vaping device as you most likely will be using it more....I speak the above from personal experience while watching my blood pressure, controlled very well on medication at around 120 to 130 over 80 to 85 to a very high 170/110 while using my new vv device and not considering the consequences.....LOWERING my nic level helped greatly...Merry Christmas

 

[nanovapr]

I own neither, but would cast a vote to VV. With a fixed voltage device you have to buy "more stuff" to change it, and optionally carry it with you. VV you can change it on the fly, and discover what works best for you without having to purchase a variety of atty/cartos. In very general terms, higher resistance atty/cartos will be preferred for VV, it gives you more variance before you may bump into protection circuit cutoffs. LR is just a thing for fixed voltage devices to make them hotter. They will drain your batts harder as well. If you can up the voltage, there is no need for LR, for the most part.

LR might get to it's operating temp faster, and that may or may not be what tastes good to you.

 

[CaptJR]

Thank you all for the replies. I do think I'll go with the ProVari.

One person said that the ProVari, though a little smaller, is heavier. Will I be able to carry a ProVari in my shirt pocket or is it to heavy for that? This is a real consideration. When I watched a vid review of the Silver bullet and saw the size of it, I said to myself, 'How are you going to carry that in your shirt pocket.'

I am going to have a BigDaddy tank on it. So I don't know that putting it in my pants pocket is a good option.
How do you carry these mods around?

 

[Retriever]

At the risk of getting flamed, I'd go with the Provari as well. The reason is that although the Silver Bullet is well made and has a loyal following, it has NO vent hole that I know of to expel gasses should the battery vent. That might or might not cause some problems.

I think you made the right choice. Enjoy!

 

[mikebabs]

I have read, cannot confirm, that the Silver Bullet vents battery gas/fumes through the switch. Merry Christmas

 

[Retriever]

I heard the same thing from a post. I just wish, if that were the case, that it was posted on their site.

 

[Katy]

Just a word of caution!!! If you go from a 3.7 volt device to a variable voltage device please consider that once you get the VV device, you are going to be experimenting with increased voltage. At higher voltages, you will be burning, vaporizing the e-liquid more quickly and consequently taking in more nicotene than you initially bargained for.
Now, having said that, this might NOT be a problem for most folks. BUT, for older people and those on blood pressure medications you might realize a SHARP increase in your blood pressure. Consider lowering your nic level at the higher voltages
and also when experimenting with any new vaping device as you most likely will be using it more....I speak the above from personal experience while watching my blood pressure, controlled very well on medication at around 120 to 130 over 80 to 85 to a very high 170/110 while using my new vv device and not considering the consequences.....LOWERING my nic level helped greatly...Merry Christmas

Thank you for this advice. I did get a variable volt device and have seen a rapid increase in my blood pressure to the point where the doctor has moved me from 25mg. to 100 mg per day. I kept thinking it was some type of unknown "stress" causing the problem.

 

[ChaosAffect]

I've owned both. I still have my SB. Nuff said.

 

[ambientech]

Thank you all for the replies. I do think I'll go with the ProVari.

One person said that the ProVari, though a little smaller, is heavier. Will I be able to carry a ProVari in my shirt pocket or is it to heavy for that? This is a real consideration. When I watched a vid review of the Silver bullet and saw the size of it, I said to myself, 'How are you going to carry that in your shirt pocket.'

I am going to have a BigDaddy tank on it. So I don't know that putting it in my pants pocket is a good option.
How do you carry these mods around?

I carry my provari in my shirt pocket but it will annoy you at first because it is a bit heavy. You get used to it but if not a small flashlight holster would probably work well.