Sleeping issues and drowsiness?

[dbodin]

ok so its been over a month since i've had a cigarette, and most of everything has improved in my life except sleep. I find it really difficult to go to sleep, and when i wake up I always feel exhausted and still tired, even if i've had 8 hours of deep rest. And usually, if my schedule will allow, I pass right back out, and end up sleeping another 2 -3 hours. If I force my self to wake up, i feel sleepy most of the day, until I can take a nap .It's starting to get really annoying, and its messing with my schedule ...
Is this a common side effect of vaping? And does it go away, its been like this for weeks now !

Advice is appreciated!

 

[BigDaddio]

I think its common to quitting smoking. I had quit once or twice before, extended periods why did I start again? Anyway I had similar things even though I was not using gum or patches. Maybe its the extra oxygen? The chemicals leaving your brain? I don't know but really doubt it has to do with vaping.

 

[Shane Bappe]

I didn't have any problems but possibly if your using a high nic concentrate like 24mg+ it could definitely affect it. If you are using that high, try switching to a lower concentration a couple of hours before bed. I would guess that it could help.

 

[Racehorse]

that happened to me when I first started vaping.

I lowered my nic, esp. at night, and the exhaustion went away.

I also noticed that high PG made me tired, too.

Once I did those 2 things I felt good.

 

[SharonH]

I started off with 12 mg 75% of the time and 24 mg 25%. I had that issue. I now vape 10 or 12 mg during the day (with max a few puffs of 24 mg) and 10 mg at night. That seems to have helped a lot.

 

[ch1naski]

Glad to see I'm not the only one...thought I was losing my mind for the last couple of weeks. Even my prescription sleeping pills aren't helping me go to sleep lately.

Going to switch my nic level before bed.

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[dbodin]

ok thanks for the advice guys! im at 18mg im going to try to lower it to 12, Its been a month and a half since smokes, so I think I should be alright buying a new bottle of juice !

 

[Ryedan]

From this post on effects of quitting cigs and starting to vape:

"V4. Headache, racing pulse, inability to sleep

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Tachycardia and insomnia
A racing pulse and inability to sleep are symptoms of nicotine OD that may be experienced by those who have never before had any symptom of excess nicotine consumption. It is not clear if these symptoms are due to a batch of e-liquid that was considerably stronger than labeled, or an eventual reaction to excess nicotine. The solution might be to reduce the nic strength to a minimum sufficient to produce the required results (removal of cravings, adequate life functionality, stress relief, etc.) and no more.

Note that there is a huge range of tolerance to nicotine: some people report that 12mg liquid causes these types of symptoms for them, while others consume fairly large quantities of 36mg (or even higher) with no effects whatsoever. There are cases of users with 6mg liquid who reported that over-consumption was problematic, compared with a case of one user who vaped 60mg with no effects. There are many reports of people consuming 48mg in order to successfully convert to an e-cigarette. This appears to show that there is a factor-10 variance in nicotine tolerance between individuals - that is, some can tolerate a nicotine intake ten times higher than others.

As a general policy, it is probably best to reduce the nicotine strength to the minimum needed. It will often be impossible to equate this to the amount smoked as for some reason there is no direct relationship, for many/most people. Also, the nicotine strength of the liquid can be reduced over time, for most people."

 

[mgavilondo]

Me and my daughter are vaping the same .. 12 mg nic 50/50 PG-VG. About a week ago I noticed. Complete lethargy like a vaping coma along with charlie horse in every muscle in my body like I just worked out except I did nothing but stealth vape at my desk and watch TV when I got home... Lol.. Anyhow it was like taking a Percocet almost. I researched and saw that some people have this same reaction to PG so I was gonna completely cut it out but I also heard to doesn't last and that by drinking more water and maybe not chain vaping it might help.. Well it seemed to work as I'm fine now... No more vaping coma. However my daughter just told me she's now experiencing the exact same thing. It doesn't seem too prevalent and there is a thread on here that examines it further...

 

[Revelene]

That's how I felt when I quit smoking but after a few months I'm right back on a regular sleeping schedule.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

It sounds kinda like sleep apnea... Do you snore? It may be something to chat with a doctor about.

 

[brownfsc]

I had to play with my nic level and increased the amount of water I was drinking.

 

[fabricator4]

ok thanks for the advice guys! im at 18mg im going to try to lower it to 12, Its been a month and a half since smokes, so I think I should be alright buying a new bottle of juice !

Good move, vaping less nicotine from late afternoon on may help you. Are you a coffee drinker? Some people find that they tolerate coffee less after they give up smoking, so you might want to throttle that back as well. Don't cut it out altogether though, otherwise you'll just finish up with the caffeine withdrawal symptoms on top of everything else. That is another problem - people cut out coffee because they are concerned about dehydration, but then have a mix of symptoms that makes the causes harder to track down.

Have you been having vivid dreams, or waking dreams? This can be a sign of too much nicotine as well.

Lastly, a word of warning... While many of us have been through these things and offer advice in good faith none of us are doctors (that I know of anyway). If you have some issues that are concerning you, you should consult your GP.

 

[dbodin]

Good move, vaping less nicotine from late afternoon on may help you. Are you a coffee drinker? Some people find that they tolerate coffee less after they give up smoking, so you might want to throttle that back as well. Don't cut it out altogether though, otherwise you'll just finish up with the caffeine withdrawal symptoms on top of everything else. That is another problem - people cut out coffee because they are concerned about dehydration, but then have a mix of symptoms that makes the causes harder to track down.

Have you been having vivid dreams, or waking dreams? This can be a sign of too much nicotine as well.

Lastly, a word of warning... While many of us have been through these things and offer advice in good faith none of us are doctors (that I know of anyway). If you have some issues that are concerning you, you should consult your GP.

Luckily I've never been a coffee drinker, but I have considered it lately.

Vivid dreams, thats something I totally forgot about. I've been having some pretty awesome dreams haha. They are as lifelike as talking to a real person. Most are R rated to. I'll leave that at that. I've had a couple nightmares, but its like watching a movie. And unlike most dreams, I wake up and remember the entire dream from start to finish.

I understand you guys are not doctors, but sometimes the doctor isnt the best place for advice, especially with something like smoking.. since I have never met a doctor who smokes. It's like hearing stories from a holocaust survivor, vs a holocaust historian.

If symptoms become severe, of course i will go to my local gp though

Great post thanks!

 

[ch1naski]

Yea, I've been having some oddball dreams.

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[fabricator4]

Luckily I've never been a coffee drinker, but I have considered it lately.

Coffee is great but I really can't recommend it as another chemical dependency. I get monster headaches if I don't get my java.

The fact that you're having such vivid dreams seems to indicate that you are going to bed heavily nic'd. The vivid dreaming is interesting and all, but it doesn't appear to be particularly restful in my experience.

 

[mamalapuffala]

I tend to vape more in the evenings after work, so started using lower nic levels at night. Once I started doing that, sleep came easier.

 

[ch1naski]

Coffee is great but I really can't recommend it as another chemical dependency. I get monster headaches if I don't get my java.

The fact that you're having such vivid dreams seems to indicate that you are going to bed heavily nic'd. The vivid dreaming is interesting and all, but it doesn't appear to be particularly restful in my experience.

You are correct, it is not relaxing at all.
I know I am going to bed heavily nic'd, but I usually drink coffee up until about 3 hours before bed (been that way for years, I'm pretty sure I've got espresso in veins), so I figured I shouldn't have any issues.

I realize now that my nic intake has probably tripled, if not more, since I started vaping. Not so much by choice, but rather out of necessity: with my eGo setup, it's the only way I get a satisfying throat hit. And satisfaction is what keeps me from going back to smoking. I'll take nicotine over black lungs and cancer any day.


I'm going to go buy another carto tank, and fill it with a low or zero nic juice. I'll start using that around the same time I quit the coffee, and see how that helps.


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[longusto]

Yes, I've been off the smokes for 18 days now and have encountered sleeping patterns being disturbed. I have to say though, I am constantly looking at vaping websites untill the early hours every night so I doubt that this helps, lol!

 

[Chas F.]

I read an article that discussed the effects of smoking cessation, nicotine and sleep issues. IIRC, they said that because the brain is no longer dosed by the ingredients in tobacco the...er, connections in the brain start to fire better and even misfire causing vivid dreams and even loss of restful sleep. The article went on to say that the effects fade once the brain begins to learn to function without all the stuff in tobacco cigs, so there's hope yet! In another article they discussed one of the benefits of nicotine is it's ability to stave off Alzheimer by regenerating the connections in the brain thus allowing for more vivid dreams. Who knew, right?

Edit: Found one of the links. http://......................./top-10-studies-on-nicotine-you-need-to-know-about/

Oh, I used to say that I rarely dreamed and NEVER had nightmares. Now I remember dreaming every night and my sleep is getting better and still no nightmares.