SM V3 Semovar VS Provari
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Phil was doing a review, not using the device day in and day out. I've never had even a fraction of the issues that Phil "created" because I use the device to vape, not put it through it's paces. I've had an E2 error occasionally, but that's about it. As far as the menu system, learn it and forget it....just no problem. Under the logic that the Semovar system is difficult (compared to what...the Provari?) and that it's "not user friendly," then I suppose any device that does not have two adjustment buttons is "bad and user unfriendly." Phil's bias shows again in this review, as it does in many of his reviews, and I don't have the experiences that Phil had with the Semo......EVER!
Frankly, when I want to use a Wattage device in a tube mod, what else would I even consider? A DNA 30/100? It has issues to, with boot circuitry. There is not a perfect device out there, but the Semovar and the Provari are two of the very best. Would I sell my Provari, just to get a Semo? Of course not. I would keep both. In my vape world, I need Provari's and Semo's....period. The only other device that I'm waiting for now is my new DNA 100 tube mod in 26650. We'll probably see that this year, sometime, and I'll get one. It is my opinion that for a variable voltage tube mod, I can't beat the Provari. For a variable wattage tube mod, I can't beat the Semovar. For a mechanical, I surely like my Just GG. For my high wattage mod, I'm still waiting for the new configuration mentioned. The fact that the Semovar is a hybrid with the Kayfun is huge for me and provides one of the best vapes in the world. If, and when, the mechanical pieces come out in support of the Semo, then I'll have another great mechanical, and I already have a great APV/VW device with the Semo now. Hard combination to beat, and these capabilities, while not all in place yet, may push the Semo past the Provari for me. At the moment, they are so close, I can't call it one way or another.
As a vaper who does appreciate the Semovar, I found Phil's review offensive. He has an obvious bias, and I don't need that in a reviewer. I prefer my own bias. Anyway, my two cents. YMMV.,
I couldn't agree more about Phil's bias and his love (affiliation? ) With ProVape. In my opinion he MADE the semovar look and sound overly complicated - which it most certainly is NOT. And rolling his eyes at the "provari killer" statement was disrespectful.
Nothing is a "xyz" killer. Each device has it's own strong points, every device has pros and cons. EGo in my opinion are useless, but my wife loves them because they're tiny.
I like Phil's reviews most times, but whenever it comes to a comparison against the provari he shows his biased on screen.
Nothing is a "xyz" killer. Each device has it's own strong points, every device has pros and cons. EGo in my opinion are useless, but my wife loves them because they're tiny.
I like Phil's reviews most times, but whenever it comes to a comparison against the provari he shows his biased on screen.
I like both my Provari and Semovar. It appeared to me that Phil was trying to please who he thought his majority audience would be. I looked past that and got all the positive comments he had. I guess one has to own both to fully understand their excellent qualities. Like Bill said earlier, if you enjoy the Kayfun , you will love its usage with the Semovar.
The distinction is the Semovar in hybrid mode with the Kayfun 3.1. Otherwise, it's a good battery with an excellent topper. I know that's what you meant, but clarifying for the new members considering the purchase. Now, the 3.1 is no longer made, but the 4.0 will be out in the next 90 days, and I've been told, by those that have seen the 4.0, that it will also work in hybrid mode. I hope so! That little difference in connectivity translates to a slight difference in vape, and that makes all the difference.
I've had mine for 8-9 days now. Been running a variety of builds on KFL+, KF Mini, Igo-W and some clearomizer. Have not had an error message since day two. I guess it took me that long to get the menu down pat. I just do not see what is so hard about it. You either pick the off or on menu and scroll through the options. The options are always in the same order and if you do miss on you have to wait a total of 3 seconds. I'm old enough that it takes 3 seconds to lift it to my mouth so I can live with that.
I really like that I can pick the wattage. I mainly vape 3 different products and each taste their best at a certain wattage. No need to check my resistance and set the voltage when I can just dial it in. I am also looking forward to the mech button when it comes out.
I really like that I can pick the wattage. I mainly vape 3 different products and each taste their best at a certain wattage. No need to check my resistance and set the voltage when I can just dial it in. I am also looking forward to the mech button when it comes out.
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7 pushes - measurement of battery voltage
(voltage battery) is shown on the display. If you push the button one more time now
the battery voltage under load will be shown. After this you will see the battery voltage without
load again.
The under load measurement depends on the setup you have chosen, the resistance of the atomizer
which is connected with the APV and the inside resistance of the APV (contact to contact).
This option is made to show the voltage drop of your whole setup.I just measured it, and my battery was at 3.7V, and the voltage under load was 3.3V - this is obviously not good enough, and the guys at Cloud9 have posted a great tip which really works.
Strip your Semovar down: unscrew the battery tube, take the bottom cap to bits, remove the spring, remove the end caps from the chip section, take everything apart, and get a bottle brush, some hot water with detergent and scrub that semovar down. Take care not to get the chipset wet (you could even remove the chipset if you really wanted).
I just did mine and the bottle brush came out black! It was fillthy in there! I cleaned every single point of electrical contact, including every single thread on the device.
When reassembled, I now get 0.1V of voltage drop. w00t!
I just checked mine. 4.0V and 3.9v under load. Mine must have come factory scrubbed. This was with a 1.3 ohm coil.
We need a dedicated Semovar thread. Lots of great info floating around in numerous threads.
Anyway, I was curious about this end cap. Is this the cap supplied only with the V3? The only other one I have seen is with the CE logo.
Anyway, I was curious about this end cap. Is this the cap supplied only with the V3? The only other one I have seen is with the CE logo.
We need a dedicated Semovar thread. Lots of great info floating around in numerous threads.
Anyway, I was curious about this end cap. Is this the cap supplied only with the V3? The only other one I have seen is with the CE logo.
Oh man I like that cap. Mine just has the CE etched on it
So just by cleaning it you went from a 0.4v drop to 0.1v drop? Same battery? Etc....
I'm getting crazy battery drop under load. Trying to figure out if all my batteries are junk or what.
So just by cleaning it you went from a 0.4v drop to 0.1v drop? Same battery? Etc....
I'm getting crazy battery drop under load. Trying to figure out if all my batteries are junk or what.
just checked mine. It displayed 3.9, then 3.3. Should it be 3.8?
Thank you for the clarification Bill. I waiting for the 4.0 also. Just got the Hybrid connector 2 days ago.
Mine just has CE etched on it also.Oh man I like that cap. Mine just has the CE etched on it
Another source of voltage drop may be that the end caps on your chip section have loosened. You can tighten them up by inserting a ball point pen into the holes in the white end caps and turning. You can also make better contact with the negative pole of the battery by turning the brass section in the end cap out slightly. Cleaning your contacts though is a good idea for any mod and definitely helped with my voltage drop.
I also cleaned the connector on my kayfun, so my cleaning session was end to end. Because it involves stripping the Semovar down and reassembling it, everything ends up tightened down properly as well. Give it a go.
There is also the tip of flipping the brass piece over in the end cap so that the spring contacts the battery.
I also cleaned the connector on my kayfun, so my cleaning session was end to end. Because it involves stripping the Semovar down and reassembling it, everything ends up tightened down properly as well. Give it a go.
There is also the tip of flipping the brass piece over in the end cap so that the spring contacts the battery.
A lot of semovar owners I know claim that it's a "provari killer", how old is the ProVari? And how long have companies been coming out with new mods to "kill" it? It's time to move on and be on a complete different standard other than trying to kill the provari. Also I'm sure once provape is convinced that their provari is going down in sales due to a new APV they'll come out with a new APV of their own and will most likely be on top again. Good thing is when this happens, all current provari owners will only have to pay about under $50 for an upgrade
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I've never seen the semovar be advertised as a ProVari killer. The mods are different, and deliver a different vaping experience.
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