Smok Bec Pro or Clouper T5??

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Talons001

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Hey everyone.
I am trying to decide between the Clouper T5 and the smok Bec Pro. Both seem to have about the same reveiws that I have seen, but I would like to get all of yours opinions on the two as well. So, if you all would be willing to give me your pros and cons on each, I would appreciate it. Also, to anyone that has either could you tell me an estimated battery life for either or expected life time of either? I am trying to get the est bang for my buck and I feel like this will be one of my final additions before my vape gear is complete(for now). Thanks for any and all responses in advance.:vapor:
 

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I've owned both... I've been happy with both but there's a reason my t5 is a bucket of spare parts and my bec pro is still kicking


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So I'm guessing you are in support of the Pro and not the T5? lol
Generally, how long does a full charge last you with the Pro?
 

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I don't have a t5, but my Smok BEC quit working and I'm starting to believe the warranty isn't real. Complete waste of $100. I'll give it a few more days before initiating a charge back.

Battery life wasn't that great either (you will definitely need to take a spare to work).

Do you know exactly what went wrong with you Bec? Or did it just die without reason one day?
 

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Do you know exactly what went wrong with you Bec? Or did it just die without reason one day?

It just died. One day I decided to try 30 watts and it went downhill from there (including a constant drain from the battery which made the unit uncomfortable hot to hold and would not stop until the battery was pulled). Now it won't power on with an atty attached.
 
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It just died. One day I decided to try 30 watts and it went downhill from there (including a constant drain from the battery which made the unit uncomfortable hot to hold and would not stop until the battery was pulled). Now it won't power on with an atty attached.

that's strange. definitely a mark against the Pro. It could be that it was just a faulty one. I hope that you can get a replacement or at least your money back.
 

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So I'm guessing you are in support of the Pro and not the T5? lol
Generally, how long does a full charge last you with the Pro?

T5 battery life was stupid bad... The bec pro is not the greatest but better than my t5... I normally vape at 0.7 ohm dual coil at 30-35 watts


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T5 battery life was stupid bad... The bec pro is not the greatest but better than my t5... I normally vape at 0.7 ohm dual coil at 30-35 watts


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Alright, as long as I get through a 10 hour work day without having to carry a bag full of batteries, I'll be able to manage. I may not even be carrying it with me a work and just use one of mechs while at work.
 

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What made you narrow your choice down to these two?

Personally, I am considering a Cloupor DNA 50 or one of the new box mods (IPV3, Sigelei 100w, T6, or T8). A double barrel ZNA 50 (or a 26650 ZNA 50) would be ideal for me.

Honestly, I don't want a box mod. I find them unattractive and I don't like the feel of them in my hand. Those are the only two tube mods that go to 50 watts or above that I know of. thats the main reasoning behind my choice.
 

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Honestly, I don't want a box mod. I find them unattractive and I don't like the feel of them in my hand. Those are the only two tube mods that go to 50 watts or above that I know of. thats the main reasoning behind my choice.

I've had my T5 for close to 2 1/2 months now. It's my "go to" VV/VW these days... It has some really nice features over the other mods I have, including a "boost start" which is great when running larger coils. Basically if you're running a coil with a lot of metal in it that would normally lag a bit, it doesn't because it "jump starts" it with a higher voltage to start with. Let's say your given settings mean you'll be putting 5.6 volts on your coil... It'll give the coil a half second "boost" at say 7 volts then drop down to your normal 5.6... This feature is only with the new firmware though.

Battery life was decent right out of the box, but not great. With the new firmware (or even the 1.2 version they released for people to go back to if they didn't like the new) it's much much better. As a test I ran a normal single coil (1.4 ohms) at 15 watts... I got over 400 puffs of the original firmware and closer to 600 with the new firmware. That's on a VTC5. I know there were a lot of complaints about the battery life, but to be honest I just don't get it. Will it last me all day long if I'm cranking out 40-50 watts? Absolutely not... But no single 18650 mod will.

The BEC Pro seems really nice... I haven't personally owned one, but I have heard a few stories that make me worry a little. The plastic cracking is one of the main ones. Aside from that, the interface is great if you're using the app, but it turns off after 10 minutes and you have to re-enable the bluetooth. That's kinda a royal pain in the ..... I'm hoping their next rendition (the XPro) will fix all those issues, but it's also a box... Keep in mind though that the T5 isn't a box mod, but it is larger...
 

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Not sure if you're still looking, but thought I'd chime in...I have the BEC Pro, and so far, it's been working very well. Battery life if pretty good, but it all depends on what your build is, what watts your using, what battery your using, and how you vape. If you don't chain vape, and you keep it around 35 watts or so, you can probably get through the whole day with a couple good batteries.

The main issue with the BEC Pro is that it doesn't have temperature regulation, so if you chain vape like crazy, that could be a problem. I've only heard of one instance with the plastic cracking and I'm thinking that it was probably heat related. To avoid that, let it cool off between hits, and unscrew the 510 connection ring a little so that it isn't touching the plastic...some people unscrew it a little anyway so that it sits flush with the atty. The BEC Pro does cut off at about 13 seconds I think, but that's the only temperature regulation that it has at the moment. Supposedly there is going to be a 100w upgrade...I don't think I'll ever go that high with it, but I wanted something that is capable. Hopefully, with the upgrade, they will add some sort of temperature regulation so that it will cut off at a certain temperature so that people don't fry their devices or something else. The button isn't super clicky, but I haven't had any problems with it, nor have I had any problems with heat. The threads are pretty smooth, it has a fairly solid structure, it's capable and it's upgradable. I don't really use the bluetooth much, but it's necessary to be able to in order to upgrade it.

I was looking at the T5 also, but didn't get it because I read that a lot of people fried the chip when they upgraded and bumped up the watts.

Anyway, I really like the BEC Pro! I think that, as long as I use it carefully and don't abuse it, it will last a long time. There are a few reviews for it on youtube that show how it works. PBusardo gave it a thumbs down because it lacks temperature regulation, but there are other reviewers who seem to really like it.

Hope that helps :)
 

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I am still trying to decide between the two. Each have their own respective negatives, but that just makes it harder to choose. The heat regulation for the BEC Pro is a bit concerning to me, but I probably won't go above ~30 watts more than once or twice(depending on what I decide put with it). However, hearing that the T5 has problems with people frying the chip is also worrisome. I do like the GUI on the T5 a lot more than the BEC for the simple fact that it shows more information and is easier to access, but once I find my happy spot I probably won't even bother adjusting the settings much until I decide to change something again. As far as battery life goes, I have stocked up on my VTC4-5's and it's easy enough for me to carry a couple of spare batteries with me, which I probably won't even take this one out of the house, and just run one of my Mechs while I'm out and about.The size of the two is really interesting, but not really a deciding factor for me. The Boost feature of the T5 does seem like a really cool idea, and definitely something to make me consider it more. I've watched reviews for both of these devices and while I am a fan of PBusardo and value his knowledge input, it isn't the say all and be all.

Honestly, after typing all of this out and looking over all the information I have accumulated over the past few days, I think I am leaning towards the T5. While it is bigger, it does have better safety with heat regulation, since I have a habit of mindlessly chain vaping. And I do like some of the extra features it has going for it.
 

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They may have fixed the update on the T5...or at least maybe they're working on one. If you get one, just be careful not to strip the screws, and if you do the update, don't blast it up to 100 watts right away. I was told when I got my BEC that, in order to use higher watts, I should use thicker wire to build my coils, and batteries that can handle high amperage. Sounds like you've got some good batteries. If you already have experience with, and knowledge regarding, mech mods, you'll probably be fine with either device.
 

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Seeing as you're ok with the looks of it (It's a love it or hate it thing), some thoughts on my T5:

The battery life stinks. On a fully charged VTC5, running a 1.2Ω build at 20 Watts, it's good for about 200 puffs. Not a problem for me, because I only intended to use mine at home, but some would find it a big drawback. Changing the battery on-the-fly will not be convenient. The compartment lid on the bottom is held on by 3 tiny phillips screws.

It intermittantly turns itself off when pressing the fire button. It's pretty rare, but it does it. The firmware update (which is a whole different subject) was suppose to address this problem, which Cloupor admits is a firmware flaw. Now it appears they will not be releasing an update for the T5 at all, according to their website.

These two issues aside, mine has worked without any other problems. It has a nice hefty feel to it, and personally, I like the look of it. I'll be looking to get an EHPro "Big Buddha" to compliment it's size.
 

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Seeing as you're ok with the looks of it (It's a love it or hate it thing), some thoughts on my T5:

The battery life stinks. On a fully charged VTC5, running a 1.2Ω build at 20 Watts, it's good for about 200 puffs. Not a problem for me, because I only intended to use mine at home, but some would find it a big drawback. Changing the battery on-the-fly will not be convenient. The compartment lid on the bottom is held on by 3 tiny phillips screws.

It intermittantly turns itself off when pressing the fire button. It's pretty rare, but it does it. The firmware update (which is a whole different subject) was suppose to address this problem, which Cloupor admits is a firmware flaw. Now it appears they will not be releasing an update for the T5 at all, according to their website.

These two issues aside, mine has worked without any other problems. It has a nice hefty feel to it, and personally, I like the look of it. I'll be looking to get an EHPro "Big Buddha" to compliment it's size.

Not to mention changing the battery stinks, the charge never charges up to 100% and the front plastic will fall off of it gets too hot... But those are all from my personal experience... I like the zna 50 better than the smok bec and the t5


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Not to mention changing the battery stinks, the charge never charges up to 100% and the front plastic will fall off of it gets too hot... But those are all from my personal experience... I like the zna 50 better than the smok bec and the t5


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I just picked up a ZNA 50. So far so good. I think I am done with Smok.
 
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