SmokeShopTalk

[STB]

Hi Everybody, wanted to introduce ourselves, we're researching and writing on ecigs, the industry and legal issues, big tobacco, and a bunch of related topics.
We're hoping to advance the dialog in the industry, we would love your feedback on how to make the site better and more useful.
We have many new articles in the works, and would appreciate feedback.
Our site is SmokeShopTalk.com, some recent articles are:

Jerry Brown and ecigs
The FDA and Nicotine
University of Alberta study on eCigarettes

 

[Elendil]

Moving this to the campaigning forum.

 

[Janetda]

Hi Everybody, wanted to introduce ourselves, we're researching and writing on ecigs, the industry and legal issues, big tobacco, and a bunch of related topics.
We're hoping to advance the dialog in the industry, we would love your feedback on how to make the site better and more useful.
We have many new articles in the works, and would appreciate feedback.
Our site is SmokeShopTalk.com, some recent articles are:

Jerry Brown and ecigs
The FDA and Nicotine
University of Alberta study on eCigarettes

I'm sorry to say that your site feel like a front for Blucigs. Further, I only got as far as the first two stories, I got the feeling your writer has been asleep for several years. Your story regarding the FDA and Nicotine completely leaves out the that little thing where the Congress actually DID give the FDA control over tobacco in 2009. And your story about Jerry Brown only focused on his time as Oakland mayor, which had nothing to do with his job as Attorney General for CA, which is where is actions regarding e-cigs comes into play. And seriously, one of you're picture captions asks "Why has the City Council granted more liquor stores licenses in Oakland than Beverly Hills?" Maybe it's because they are two different cities with two different City Councils separated by hundred of miles!

I'd say, if you really are interested in developing this site, get the Blucig ads off of it and research your stories be for you put them up.

 

[Vocalek]

I was a tad put out by this assertion, and left a rather long comment:

“In other words, even with the gums, lollipops, patches, popsicles, and inhalers eventually there comes a time when you have to take off the training wheels and live without the crutch. You will either quit tobacco or quit the NRT. But either way, you have to let it go.”

Dopamine, Nicotine and Nicotine Replacement Therapies (NRT) | Smoke Shop Talk

 

[Janetda]

I was a tad put out by this assertion, and left a rather long comment:



Dopamine, Nicotine and Nicotine Replacement Therapies (NRT) | Smoke Shop Talk

There's a lot wrong with the article, but the most offenisive to me was the caption under one of the pictures that said, "Old dry Cuban smoking an old dry Cuban"

 

[kristin]

Very slow loading and some never even came up on the page. The one that did was formatted so that the entire article was about an inch wide and all to the left side of the screen, in one long column. So, I didn't get to read much, sorry.

 

[STB]

I don't quite understand why an advertisement for BluCig or anyone for that matter makes SmokeShopTalk a "front" for BluCig. That's akin to saying b/c there is an ad for Samsonite that the New York Times is a front for the luggage industry.

The fact is, BluCig (or anyone) has not paid SmokeShopTalk one penny for the content or for promotion. If you had chosen to look closer you wouldn't have seen one statement that advovated for BluCig or any brand or manufacturer. SmokeShopTalk also has an ad for ear phones. Does that mean we are a front for the audio industry? But more importantly, why is advertising a bad thing? I also notice ads w/in the sig files of a number of people here. It is hypocrical to point to that w/in SmokeShopTalk as a reason why not to consider our information accurate.

Re: Jerry Brown

I believe you missed the point of the article entirely. The article was not exclusively about Jerry Brown with respect to ecigs. It was about Jerry Brown as a leader. The article examined his leadership track record, the impact of his leadership on Oakland. Moreover, the article speaks to the ironic move to attack ecigs while Attorney General and yet while he was mayor, he allowed mayhem to occur by NOT stopping the proliferation of liquor stores on every street corner. Moreover, the crime rate was higher during his mayorship than it is today. The point of the article was to illustrate that Jerry Brown is a hypocrit aka politician and that his interest in ecigs is false and his logic is specious at best.

Re: Liquor lining and liquor stores in Beveryly Hills vs. Oakland

Once again, you missed the point entirely. The point of that statement was to illustrate how two different communities have very different results when it comes to how populations are treated. And it has EVERYTHING to do with RACE. I am astounded that you missed what was a patently obvious point.

"Maybe it's because they are two different cities with two different City Councils separated by hundred of miles!"

I'm sorry but this has to be one of the most ignorant and foolish statements (anf frankly racist) things I've heard. To claim that the ONLY thing that separates Beverly Hills and East Oakland is distance is sheer insanity. Let me direct you to the case of East Palo Alto and Palo Alto. This is a tale of two cities separated by a mere 8 lanes of freeway. However, the two cities might well as be on opposite ends of the solar system. On one side of the freeway, the roads weren't even properly paved and you would likely be killed if you walked around by yourself at night. On the other side of the 101 Freeway, the average home price is $3,000,000. So, is your argument that the only thing holding the mostly poor black and hispanic inhabitants of East Palo Alto the fact that they have a different city council?! Give me a break. It is b/c Palo Alto employs a gestapo police force that pushed the unwanted black and latinos into the corners and keeps a very close eye on them crossing over the tracks. We have TONS of research on this fact w/ many many first hand accounts. The point is -- East Palo Alto has MORE LIQUOR stores per capita than Palo Alto. And that is by design. The point is that the City Council is well aware of the money to be made off of the poor and they and the mayoral offices have not done enough to clean up their streets and reduce crime and corruption. THAT should've been Mayor Jerry Brown's first objective for East Oakland. But that didn't happen. And as Attorney General, we find his railing against ecigs preposterous BECAUSE he never took the hard line. He took the path of least political resistance. And thus, his stance on ecigs rings hollow to us. We see his position as hypocritical and down right macbre. In other words, while ROME BURNS, JERRY IS FIDDLING WITH ECIGS.

You do know the allusion to Roman Emperor Nero, right?

 

[STB]

There's a lot wrong with the article, but the most offenisive to me was the caption under one of the pictures that said, "Old dry Cuban smoking an old dry Cuban"

We thought that was hysterical. We believe comedy is worthwhile. It isn't for everyone but we do our research and stand behind it.

As far as the comment about the Supreme Court, we think you should read the story again.