Smoktech Dual Coil Cartomizers

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DC after few weeks heavy use at 3.7v w/ clean burning PG liquid.

Eventually tube cracked on both ends. I carried in pocket attached to PV.

Flavor remained clean but vapor production decreased and resistance went to 3 ohms. Lost a coil which can be seen in photo.

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Got 4 days out of my clear DC with 70/30-pg/vg and that is way better than any reg. carto for me. Draw got tight and not much vaper. Took apart and diaper was burned clear thru and the coil was a ball of hard gunk. Still way better than my norm. LOL
 

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Got 4 days out of my clear DC with 70/30-pg/vg and that is way better than any reg. carto for me. Draw got tight and not much vaper. Took apart and diaper was burned clear thru and the coil was a ball of hard gunk. Still way better than my norm. LOL

DC lasts long time at 3.7v w/ 100% PG clean burning liquid.

Thicker liquid, higher voltage, dark flavors and looong toots will hasten their demise...but it's great fun.
 

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That is not the same company as Smoktech. They offer Smoktech cartomizers, but they are not one and the same.

Really? So ... who are they? Do they have any official affiliation with SmokTech or is it just some guy trading on their name? Now I'm nervous about ordering from him.
 

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DC lasts long time at 3.7v w/ 100% PG clean burning liquid.

Thicker liquid, higher voltage, dark flavors and looong toots will hasten their demise...but it's great fun.
I know you are right about the PG. I just like lots of vapor so I will just need to throw them more often. I do really like the clear DC and with being able to see thru them, it helps teach me how to fill them and to see when they need to be topped off. They do last me much longer than standard atty's. I think I get carried away sometimes and take to many draws in a row with out giving time for the coil to get juice and so the coil gets hotter than the devil and burns instead of vaporizing the juice. Still learning, and like you said its great fun.
 

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Really? So ... who are they? Do they have any official affiliation with SmokTech or is it just some guy trading on their name? Now I'm nervous about ordering from him.
I don't know, maybe someone can answer you question. I looked on their site, and think you could get better prices somewhere else.
 
The amps a bat can deliver are related to the amps it holds. If a bat would be rated 2C, this means it can deliver 2 times the amps it holds. This means a 650 mah ego bat would deliver 2*650mah=1.3 amps. the 900 would give out 2*900=1.8 amps.
A good batterie will be rated far over 2C. But the egos they sell to us, they dont specify the C rating, so we cannot know. Being chinese made, they will not be high discharge rated I´m afraid.

I'll try to help clarify a bit here......

lets say you have a 1000 mah cell.... lets say it's "stated" to be a 2C continuous discharge cell.... in a best case real world scenerio what to means to you and I is that cell can safely do a 2 amp discharge for a reasonable amount of cycles without dropping too much voltage or horseshoeing...

to clarify further..... all the "C" ratings you see stamped on cells have more to do with marketing than what they can do in real life...... I've seen lots of cells "stated" to be capable of doing 60C continuous discharge that go into thermal runaway at only 20C... I've seen 60C rated cells that have a maximum voltage of 4.2 not be able to maintain even 3 volts under just a 15C load... I've seen 20C cells ruined in just 5 cycles at 10C.....

there are no standards that clarify exactly how a cell must perform in order to be considered capable of delivering 2C (or 4C etc).... from the best I've been able to determine, from working with dozens of American and Asian cell engineer/designers- when they designate a cell "2C" (or "60C") that is based upon the criteria they used to design the actual cell, not how it will ultimately perform.... for example.... if an engineer is designing a new 4000 mah 50C cell, they are designing the cell to do 200 amp, therefor using that amp rate to determine cathode/anode/tab sizing etc....

lastly..... lets say a mystery 1S 1000 mah 3C cell can safely do 3 amps... it doesn't go into thermal runaway... it can do 3 amps discharge for at least 100 cycles... should be good right??? well if it can not maintain a high voltage the cell is no good to anyone.... in the case of a typical Li-ion cylindrical cell (which has a max voltage of 3.7 v DC) you'd like to see that cell at least maintain 3.4 v for 90% of its discharge curve...

btw.... just a 2C discharge on any cell of any size of any C rating is only going to give you 30 minutes of use/vape time....
 

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Any idea where else I might find the 3.5ml XXXL 2.5ohm duals?
I found one that sounds like what you are looking for at nhaler its called 510 clear colossal dual coil cartomizer and the price is (4 Dollars each). Hope this helps. They come in 1.5, 2.0 or 2.5 ohms, and hold 3.5ml liquid. Another company is indyvaporshop.com, they have a 510 SMK Dual coil Mega cartomizer in steel and clear @ 1.5 ohms. for $ 2.49
 
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I found one that sounds like what you are looking for at nhaler its called 510 clear colossal dual coil cartomizer and the price is (4 Dollars each). Hope this helps. They come in 1.5, 2.0 or 2.5 ohms, and hold 3.5ml liquid. Another company is indyvaporshop.com, they have a 510 SMK Dual coil Mega cartomizer in steel and clear @ 1.5 ohms. for $ 2.49

Thanks -- though I'm looking specifically for the 2.5ohm ones for use on my Provari at higher voltages. But those colossals at Nhaler look like what I'm after. More expensive than the ones at that alleged SmokTech site though.


That's the site I was going to get them from originally. But since learning that they're not actually affiliated with SmokTech in China I'm a little skittish about ordering from them.
 

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Thanks -- though I'm looking specifically for the 2.5ohm ones for use on my Provari at higher voltages. But those colossals at Nhaler look like what I'm after. More expensive than the ones at that alleged SmokTech site though.



That's the site I was going to get them from originally. But since learning that they're not actually affiliated with SmokTech in China I'm a little skittish about ordering from them.
I see they have a phone # so call them and ask questions you have, they may be a good company, but I understand you being skittish. Also you might start a new post and ask if anyone has used this company in Florida.
 

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I think they are complete crap. I've gone through a couple of boxes and they are all junk. If these were all I had i'd go back to smoking. I wouldn't take them if they gave them away........ DON'T BUY THIS CRAP.

What PV?
What eliquid?
What volts?
What problems?

Problem I have w/ DC at 4.2v is I'm getting so much vapor I feel like nic overload at 12mg.
Had to cut down to 6mg.
 

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I see they have a phone # so call them and ask questions you have, they may be a good company, but I understand you being skittish. Also you might start a new post and ask if anyone has used this company in Florida.

Yeah... might do that. I already E-Mailed them about shipping to Canada (his quote system was messed up, only gave options for money order so I wanted to get that sorted) so maybe I'll ask him about that.
 

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Maybe these have been around long enough that the internet Kool Aid is running low. I will not buy any more of these! None of these work as well as 1.7 or 2.0 ohm cartomizers. Not even one of them can keep up with 2.0 ohm cartomizers made by the same manufacturer. Few work well at all and others are burners giving that too hot no vapor effect I like sooo much! Maybe "dual wicking" or "less leaking out the bottom when filling" models will be made, then I would jump on the bandwagon about how great they are. I have even tried at different voltages and the only ones even worth using (all other variations are headed to the trash) are the metallic ones with flat tips. Don't buy these, save your money buy single coils ones that simply work!
 

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odd about the burning issue. Only way they will burn is if you don't fill them correctly. I've cranked 7 volts through the 1.5 ohm ones with no burn taste. Each coil acts like a 3 ohm, you have to push volts through them for them to perform and become outstanding. On the little 3.7 volt units, your not gonna be blown away. About ten times now in this thread I have tried to explain the math behind these.

I vape 6ml+ a day, and run the 1.5 ohm steel tubed Dual coils at 5.3 volts all day long, every day now. I have yet, after over 3 months with them EVER had one burn juice on me, regardless how many volts I crank through them.

I will say I do not like the clear ones. Something is changing the taste on those, and I have no idea what that is. I prefer the steel tubed ones as I taste nothing odd in them.
 
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