Smoktech Dual Coil Cartomizers

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I hear nothing about batteries being killed by em, but I hear a lot of cautionary talk.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like , Yes, it will shorten battery life, by dropping ohms, (which is a given) but , No, I've not heard of out and out failures.
Unless I'm not reading it right.

And , again, I'm running duallies on 510 standard mini batteries. It's running one batteries life short (after ~2+ months , running time is deteriorating) as I expected. It is a testing I was planning on, and to this day I haven't even had a shortie battery just belly up on me.

Think of it like this....
Lets take a short walk slightly off topic, but to a point that is still relative.

How often does an iPod, cellphone, or laptop, or even a car battery blow up?
Fortunately it is pretty rare. The industry tries to over-rate things and give us some room and safety features in case some part of the battery fails.

When it does happen however, it's usually very nasty. People and property do get burned...badly.

There are indeed reports of people getting hurt by devices like these...all of them. In most of those cases the user did something they weren't supposed to do with the battery at some point (maybe not even knowing it). Then there are even some extremely rare cases where the user did nothing wrong....the thing just failed.

To willingly use an underpowered battery over and over again, despite all warnings, when there are other sensible options, is playing a kind of Russian Roullette game. The probability that a battery might eventually blow up in your face and take out some teeth, a jaw bone, or an eye goes up exponetially.

So yeah...you can walk into a Casino and put all your money on double 0 every day of your life, and eventually you will indeed win a big fat pot. The big question is...how much did you loose along the way.

If you've ever seen one of these batteries vent before....be intentionally set off, or totally by accident...you'll think twice about taking chances with them. 510 batteries are pretty well designed for venting, and we hope the odds that one venting while you're sucking on it are slim to none...and that even if it does it'll do little more than singe some hairs and scare the mess out of you.......but just know, it is very possible it could hurt you, or someone you happen to be standing close to when one goes.

I'm glad you found cartos you like....they barely produce vapor at all for me when I put one on a small battery....a regular carto works better for me on small batteries...but if you like it, more power to you. I still advise that with your choice of battery (and I do appreciate your reasons for wanting to stick with a mini), you could find a similar (or even better) performing carto to the dualie for that battery for much cheaper that wouldn't pose all the risks.

For browsers of this thread....if you really want to get your money worth from a dualie....get a passthrough, or a big battery designed to let them do their job. They are worth the little extra cost then...when you realize what these cartos can really do at a good steady 3.7v or more with enough C rating on the battery to truly dump what the cartos are asking for in terms of amps/current.
 

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Think of it like this....
Lets take a short walk slightly off topic, but to a point that is still relative.

How often does an iPod, cellphone, or laptop, or even a car battery blow up?
Fortunately it is pretty rare. The industry tries to over-rate things and give us some room and safety features in case some part of the battery fails.

When it does happen however, it's usually very nasty. People and property do get burned...badly.

There are indeed reports of people getting hurt by devices like these...all of them. In most of those cases the user did something they weren't supposed to do with the battery at some point (maybe not even knowing it). Then there are even some extremely rare cases where the user did nothing wrong....the thing just failed.

To willingly use an underpowered battery over and over again, despite all warnings, when there are other sensible options, is playing a kind of Russian Roullette game. The probability that a battery might eventually blow up in your face and take out some teeth, a jaw bone, or an eye goes up exponetially.

So yeah...you can walk into a Casino and put all your money on double 0 every day of your life, and eventually you will indeed win a big fat pot. The big question is...how much did you loose along the way.

If you've ever seen one of these batteries vent before....be intentionally set off, or totally by accident...you'll think twice about taking chances with them. 510 batteries are pretty well designed for venting, and we hope the odds that one venting while you're sucking on it are slim to none...and that even if it does it'll do little more than singe some hairs and scare the mess out of you.......but just know, it is very possible it could hurt you, or someone you happen to be standing close to when one goes.

I'm glad you found cartos you like....they barely produce vapor at all for me when I put one on a small battery....a regular carto works better for me on small batteries...but if you like it, more power to you. I still advise that with your choice of battery (and I do appreciate your reasons for wanting to stick with a mini), you could find a similar (or even better) performing carto to the dualie for that battery for much cheaper that wouldn't pose all the risks.

For browsers of this thread....if you really want to get your money worth from a dualie....get a passthrough, or a big battery designed to let them do their job. They are worth the little extra cost then...when you realize what these cartos can really do at a good steady 3.7v or more with enough C rating on the battery to truly dump what the cartos are asking for in terms of amps/current.

Yes you have some strong reasons here. Safety first.

Looks like you are refering at the first place to the small 510 Batterys.

Do you think it would be safe tu use a 1.5 Ohm DC on a Ego 900 mA. Bat.
I also have a madvape VV mod that works with 2 14500 protected batteries rating 900 mA each. Would that be safe?
 

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Yes you have some strong reasons here. Safety first.

Looks like you are refering at the first place to the small 510 Batterys.

Do you think it would be safe tu use a 1.5 Ohm DC on a Ego 900 mA. Bat.
I also have a madvape VV mod that works with 2 14500 protected batteries rating 900 mA each. Would that be safe?

The 900ma ego battery, unless it is 'defective' might be safe enough in terms of a failure that might lead to venting. In theory, because it is 900mah, but shuts down for recharging when it drops below 3.2v....well, there's enough of a stash of energy still in there at 3.2v to prevent the battery being asked to dump more power than it has in store (that's what causes the melt down..when the battery is asked to dump more energy than it has stored). So yes, in theory, it will be MUCH safer than the little mini batteries, which could in theory be sucked totally dry in a single button bush just before it realizes it's time to shut itself down for recharging.

The bigger danger with an eGo battery is that the protection circuit (mofset) and the switch isn't really meant to have the up to 3amp current a 1.5 Ohm dualie draws through it in a regular basis. You do have some headroom for most switches...but they truly are not rated and tested for constant 3amp use. So....your battery might just stop working one day...and refuse to charge, etc....(probably the battery itself is still fine, but the mofset and or switch just petered out on ya).

Another thing with the eGo Battery...you could move up to the 2 Ohm dualie or 2.5 Ohm ones and not draw as many amps...but then you're going to get a MUCH cooler vape (ya might like it, but ya might not....probably depends highly on the juice ya use).

Also with the eGo battery...figure that you'll get half the battery life (or worse) than you were getting with regular cartos/atties and maybe even use twice as much juice. Some people report that they take much shorter draws off the dualies so it balances out a bit...but I find that with my juices...I'm still dragging them just as hard...so my batteries run out fast...

Now this is just my opinion. To me...when I'm rocking eGo batteries...I can think of at least 3 other cartos/atties/tanks I'd rather use on them. My favorite thing on an eGo battery are the latest Giantomizers or a fresh CE2. Mind you I rock different juices in those than I do in a Dualie......

As for your VV mod....
If the batteries are protected or safe chem....you should definately be OK with the 2 Ohm dualies. You'll probably pull somewhere around 2.5ish amps when vaping the 2 Ohm one.....just take note if the button gets hot and stuff...monitor it for a while and use common sense.

Check into the switch and voltage regulator they put into the thing...make sure it can handle up to 3 amps. An email to MadVapes should get answers to your questions.

Next, if you're not already doing so...I'd eventually grab a set of IMR high drain batteries at some point, particularly for use with the Dualies. They have higher C ratings, and should not only perform better, but get you more recharge cycles on down the road.
 
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I'm waiting for the notcigs Pro series buck boosted VV's... they will handle these and LR too I'm told.

Does the Darwin work with the DC's?

thanks for the safety info Credo.

I'm using 2 Ohm ones on my Darwin.
I usually run higher PG juices in my Dualies at a Pixie setting of around 10w (I'm guessing that means each coil burns close to 5w).

At that setting it shows 4.5volts, 2.2amps, 2 Ohms resistance.

I can crank it up to 12w, and get it to 5v and sometimes the current bounces up to as high as 3 amps.

Really...unless the carto is getting dry on me...the thing works great even at it's lowest setting that the dualie will take on this thing (around 7 watts). It's cooler of course...but flavor, vape volume, and TH are all still there when running it cool like that.

Yes, I can turn it all the way down to 4 watts...but 3.7v/1.9a is as low as it goes...so I'm guessing it's probably still doing around 7w (3.5 on each coil).

So...yep, it works nicely on a Darwin. Works from 7w/3.7v to 12w/5v. Yep, it runs the battery down much faster. Yep, it uses twice as much juice.
 
Well guys/gals
I've NEVER heard of a 510 battery detonating, and if there is a place it would show up it would be on this site.
For that matter, the same for a KR808D-1, or other small cig like battery.

If you've ever heard of it...show me !!!! Link Me!! And I'm not talking Mods or the likes. Cig sized.
They are apparently far more bulletproof than what is let on.

First sign would be warmth. Also the inhale causes proper air to pass over em. I'm getting NO warmth. (my cell phone and laptop get warm.) Only temp increase is where expected....the carto.
I'm not being overly cautious but I'm not being overly daring either. I'm also not advocating doing what I'm doing, but my point was that an E-go should hold up infinitely better than these 510 shorties do.

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this looks like deal alright, but you didn't mention they are filled... no?
I am just now getting tempted to try out the new things in cartomizers, after leaving them a while aga, but they're filled.

any chance of "empty", fill your own DC's in the sale?

They are not filled. They are empty, blank cartomizers. The liquid choice is a free 5ml bottle that he will send you.
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You are also entered in a contest he is having. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...193529-joogler-juice-month-june-giveaway.html

I hope you got some Clint Vapewood, although all his juices are good. Honeysuckle is wierd. Just like the flower. I like his juices, and am glad he finally is carrying the duals. I had never seen them offered in white before. I ordered some white, then remembered (too late) that all my batteries are black or silver. Oh well, never cared much about looks (except with the fairer sex and cars).
 

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Can anyone verify that Joogler's are Smoktech DC's?

I sent NCVaper a PM asking him. I'll let you know.

edit: I just seen you asked him in his thread. I'll still post it when I find out.

FYI: from a conversation with NCVapor 5/10/11

I actually just talked to the smok tech rep about getting some e-power kits. They seem to be doing pretty well, and I like the idea and price of it. I will ask him about the dual coin cartos while I've got his attention lol.
 
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Yes they are smok-tech, I need to add that into the description somewhere... I'm not aware of any other companies making dual coils though. But I'm sure we will be seeing alot of them in the near future.

-Andrew
He answered in his thread. Yes, white SmokTech dual coils! He also has the black and stainless. 5pack + free 5ml juice for $9. shipping $2. Great deal. /promo
 
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