Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

[dwcraig1]

QUOTE=VAPNJ350;6807591]Smoktech Rebuildable tank System[/url] you have a link ?[/QUOTE]
http://www.litecigusa.net/Smoktech_Rebuildable_Tank_System_p/smok-vivi-tank.htm

 

[fuzzione]

How do ya'll take 10 sec hits? I take a 2-4 sec drag and get enough vapor to almost choke on lol. Right now I'm running a 2.0 ohm dual coil setup on the Phoenix RA and a good 3 sec drag has hella TH and massive vapor at 5 volts and the flavor is down right amazing. 10 secs would put me into a coma haha.

We simply train harder

 

[fuzzione]

You guys vaping TheMax with DiD seen this thread?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/318765-o-m-g-did.html#post6804328

Extremely interested in attempting this method, thanks Martin. Will be visiting the cheesecloth section of somewhere tomorrow.

 

[pwyll]

I do too. I told Smoktech the 1st thing they should consider changing is the 10 sec cutoff to 15-20 sec cutoff. I like a slow, long draw. Dam no matter how you say or type that it just doesn't sound right at all...lol !!

I just let off and press back on it about 5-6 sec into my draw. Not perfect but it gets the outcome I want.

Wouldn't that be Pulse Length Modulation?

 

[Errol]

I personally can't say anything about that--the only vv I've tried before the VMax were step-down converters. Then again, I've personally never had a problem running batteries in series even though it's become vogue to disdain "stacked batteries."

The fear of god has been instilled in many newbies and that seems a shame for such an minimal chance occurrence. There are probably millions of dual battery box mods out there, same principal of stacked batteries, and I've yet to hear of problems. The only curse I can figure out for the stacked batteries in a tube is if one goes bad it become the gun powder and the other one becomes the projectile. Apparently not a problem if properly ventilated with current technology batteries.

Errol

 

[pwyll]

How do ya'll take 10 sec hits? I take a 2-4 sec drag and get enough vapor to almost choke on lol. Right now I'm running a 2.0 ohm dual coil setup on the Phoenix RA and a good 3 sec drag has hella TH and massive vapor at 5 volts and the flavor is down right amazing. 10 secs would put me into a coma haha.

Let's take a look at what the others are running...

... Pretty much I am just wanting to say that the 3 ohm ST DC's are my choice on Vmax ...

...on the VMAX you really want a 2.8Ω or higher carto. I use 3.0Ω cartos ONLY, they all start out at 2.8Ω but end up at 3.0Ω after 4-6 hours of vaping. ...

First thing. Take out the 2.4 ohm atty and put in the 2.8. The others are useless on the vmax.
...
This is why Ive been bugging them for 3.0+ohm coils which Im told are being made.
...

Keep in mind that these are older posts and specific habits/personal choices may have changed, but most people are tending to the SR and HR *tomizers and these will obviously give you the ability to take longer vapes. Personally, a two-second drag is unsatisfactory to me--I like the longer inhale--but I don't have any cartos higher than 2 ohms, so I don't use the VMax as much as I did when I first got it. But I'll easily hit the 10 second cutoff at the 3v setting since I am also used to running 1.6ohm DC's at 5v on a regulated PV and "6"v using stacked LiFEPO's.

As soon as the "novelty" of my Orion wears off I'm sure I'll be getting a pack of the 3ohm cartos and playing around with my 'Max again

 

[Errol]

You should try out the Phoenix RA...they came down to about 15 bucks at several vendors. The vape off these are down right amazing. You can use SS mesh wicks as well. Haven't touched anything else since I got one.

What is the Phoenix RA...? Do you have a link?

Errol

 

[pwyll]

The fear of god has been instilled in many newbies and that seems a shame for such an minimal chance occurrence. There are probably millions of dual battery box mods out there, same principal of stacked batteries, and I've yet to hear of problems. The only curse I can figure out for the stacked batteries in a tube is if one goes bad it become the gun powder and the other one becomes the projectile. Apparently not a problem if properly ventilated with current technology batteries.

Errol

I've been "stacking" lead-acid, NiCad and Alkaline batteries since I was born. Every battery technology has its pros and cons. With two minutes of reading you can learn the simple precautions it takes to make "stacking" batteries safer than crossing the street--but the fear-mongers don't care. They point at the cases of flaming/exploding laptop, cellphone and gaming batteries and conveniently ignore the fact that all of them were lithium ion batteries whose protection circuitry failed. They point at the cases of exploding PV's and conveniently ignore the fact that all of the reports have been shown to either have been exaggerated and/or involved unknown battery types (and all involved people who ignored or actively circumvented basic safety practices).

The thing that really gets me is that the "anti-stacking" crowd conveniently twists information and ignores simple facts in order to support their position while they condemn the "anti-vaping" crowd for twisting information and ignoring facts to support their position.

Of course that's just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own

 

[Errol]

QUOTE=VAPNJ350;6807591]Smoktech Rebuildable Tank System[/url] you have a link ?

Smoktech Rebuildable Tank System[/QUOTE]

Never done any coil work but the Smoktech Rebuildable Tank System seem a reasonable place to start. Didn't search the site but do they have rebuilding supplies there that I should have ordered at the same time?

Errol

 

[Errol]

I've been "stacking" lead-acid, NiCad and Alkaline batteries since I was born. Every battery technology has its pros and cons. With two minutes of reading you can learn the simple precautions it takes to make "stacking" batteries safer than crossing the street--but the fear-mongers don't care. They point at the cases of flaming/exploding laptop, cellphone and gaming batteries and conveniently ignore the fact that all of them were lithium ion batteries whose protection circuitry failed. They point at the cases of exploding PV's and conveniently ignore the fact that all of the reports have been shown to either have been exaggerated and/or involved unknown battery types (and all involved people who ignored or actively circumvented basic safety practices).

The thing that really gets me is that the "anti-stacking" crowd conveniently twists information and ignores simple facts in order to support their position while they condemn the "anti-vaping" crowd for twisting information and ignoring facts to support their position.

Of course that's just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own

I find your opinion very easy to agree with, in fact I think I'll make it my own.

Errol

 

[bald_d]

Errol, you are correct!

There is a big difference in electrically stacked batteries "wired in series", and batteries physically stacked in a tube.

The concern is that one of the batteries could (rarely) go into thermal runaway. If this happens, the battery will continue to heat up until it is destroyed. There are some UTube videos showing this happening that you can view. Kind of looks like a "Picolo Pete" fireworks when it "GASES" - a significant amount of flaming material (mostly molten aluminum) is also expelled, for a pretty impressive display. Incredible heat is generated. In rare cases it is reported that batteries left in a charger have rocketed across the room.

Mostly these situations have occurred due to damaged batteries, being used on the wrong charger, or sometimes batteries left on a charger. The cylindrical batteries are basically rolled up layers - and can be shorted from being dropped on the concrete, etc. You should keep a close watch on your batteries. Ones that are damaged or seem to get hotter than others in use or charging should be gotten rid of - why take a chance. Never leave batteries in a charger unattended. I sometimes charge batteries overnight. If I ever hear a loud bang or something that sound like a bottle rocket, I will be quick to respond and try to launch it all to the back yard.

Some folks will not leave batteries in a tube mod overnight, which probably not overkill. I keep a tube mod on my night stand - but the ends are never pointed at my face... lol

If the offending battery is in a tube mod, the first concern is that it will send battery #2 into runaway as well. This will not happen in a plastic box bod or where the batteries are separated. The plastic box will melt due to the heat well before the battery gases. You still have the issues of a venting and melting battery - but not likey an explosion per se. The tube mod is a different story. Now you may have two batteries involved and if the is no or inadequate venting - you have a pipe bomb.

The fear of god has been instilled in many newbies and that seems a shame for such an minimal chance occurrence. There are probably millions of dual battery box mods out there, same principal of stacked batteries, and I've yet to hear of problems. The only curse I can figure out for the stacked batteries in a tube is if one goes bad it become the gun powder and the other one becomes the projectile. Apparently not a problem if properly ventilated with current technology batteries.

Errol

 

[Soldier671]

Hello everyone! New to the forum and I have a Chrome Vmax, using a ViVi Nova with a 2.8 ohm head and it's freaking awesome! Take care everyone and happy vaping!

 

[Optimo]

What is the Phoenix RA...? Do you have a link?

Errol

It's a rebuildable dripping atomizer that can hold about 20 drops or so. Very easy to use and very surprising price for such a good vape.

MOV Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer | Mountain Oak Vapors Premium Tennessee E-Liquid

Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer

 

[Cowboy Cru]

I have to agree with the previous posts here, some people get a little too nutty-nuts about stacking batts! I do not know Anything about batts really, but people stack normal alkaline batts in flashlights, boom boxes, Walkmans, Discmans, and all kinds of new-fangled stuff. Lol. No, but seriously, they get carried away with it for sure with the mods. Proper venting, charging and running/stack switching your batts in pairs, metering them, monitored charging, and general inspection and replacement should make you as close to 100% safe as you can get! I never leave my batts unattended whilst charging, and pull them off when they are done. I meter them frequently to make sure voltages are correct. I inspect them for damage, and replace any that may have taken a hard fall. I also charge in pairs, and run them in pairs. When I am halfway through my volts when using I switch batts top to bottom in mod. I do not store mods with batts installed if stacked, or just pop one of the two out. I try to keep them (all batts) from sitting long in a hot car or direct sunlight. Most of this is truly probably not needed, but I do most of it all the time since I can. However, I have a way better chance getting creamed in my car on the way to work than any battery failure taking me out! What it comes down to is something that a ton of people seem to lack nowadays, good ol' Common Sense!

 

[VAPNJ350]

Smoktech Rebuildable Tank System

Never done any coil work but the Smoktech Rebuildable Tank System seem a reasonable place to start. Didn't search the site but do they have rebuilding supplies there that I should have ordered at the same time?

Errol[/QUOTE]



Errol...All you need is 3MM silica wick and 30-34awg Kanthal...If you want a lower resistance coil get 30awg(it's very forgiving and easy to get LR with less coils) ...if you prefer higher resistance get 33 or 34awg Kanthal. You can usually get both on ebay with ease. Heres a link for real nice wicking silica that is the "FAT" super fast wicking 3mm silica wick. This stuff wicks even the thickest juice so fast ...no need for upside down "charging" to keep the coil wet ...and has no troulble "climbing the wick" as Phil puts it. lol lol lollol.

Link : Silica Rope 3 mm - Silica Wick - high quality - temperature resistance > 1000°C | eBay

Link courtesy of Fuzzi...or someone who gave it to me...so thank you for a great link to a great product.

 

[buffaloguy]

Regarding lenth of vape. When I am using the vivi nova I vape it the same way as everything else. I take about a 2-3 second draw, part my lips slightly and take in the vapor with some air, then a second draw for 2-3 seconds and a full inhale. I get huge plumes of vapor.

Ive seen the vivi rebuildable and think it is a great idea. Yet, rebuilding coils still is more than I want to get into. I guess if I had alot of knowledge and practice it would be a snap.

Vapnj did you ever try the vivi nova and what did you think?

I have yet to buy a dremel and cut down that dct. I will next week. I will say however I did try one of the Boge fusions I got fro. CCV as a standalone carto and frankly, it IS THE BEST carto I have ever used. Period. I can still taste the filler a tad but the flavor profile from them is really good.

 

[AnsonJames]

I have yet to buy a dremel and cut down that dct..

You can buy DCT tanks that are regular Boge sized thus saving anyone the hassle of cutting the 6ml DCT tanks.

 

[VAPNJ350]

You can buy DCT tanks that are regular Boge sized thus saving anyone the hassle of cutting the 6ml DCT tanks.

I believe it's the 4.5mL short tank from smoktech. A few different vendors carry these for pretty cheap.

 

[zenoth]

Good afternoon fellow Vmax users, just popping in to say hello. Mmmm menthol after a day out in the sun nom nom nom


*3.0 ohm dripping atty filled with rip tide at 5v om nom nom nom nom nom nom nom *

 

[Errol]

It's a rebuildable dripping atomizer that can hold about 20 drops or so. Very easy to use and very surprising price for such a good vape.

MOV Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer | Mountain Oak Vapors Premium Tennessee E-Liquid

Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer

Hope it vapes for me as well is it vapes for you as I have one coming in. Got the Rope recommended by VapnJ and some Kanthal so should be ready to go in a couple of weeks. Also bought the Smoktech Rebuildable Tank System yesterday. Hope this doesn't start a trend like the first couple of VV PVs did.

Errol