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These are what hubs ordered 18650, rechargeable 3.7 volt NCM 1800mah battery
I'm not familiar with NCM batteries, so hopefully someone else can answer this for you.
Have you tried setting it to the lowest voltage setting to see if it will fire? Boosted devices typically require IMR batteries due to the power output that IMR chemistry provides.
Sennie,
The most recommended batteries are IMR Li-Mn. I use AW IMR myself. Have had no problems with the Zmax not firing. AW is a brand name, IMR is the type of chemistry.
There are a few battery boffins who post on this thread sometimes who may know more about NCMs. I do know that IMR is recommended for pvs like the Zmax.
The most recommended batteries are IMR Li-Mn. I use AW IMR myself. Have had no problems with the Zmax not firing. AW is a brand name, IMR is the type of chemistry.
There are a few battery boffins who post on this thread sometimes who may know more about NCMs. I do know that IMR is recommended for pvs like the Zmax.
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I've been out of the vaping world for a couple years now, sadly one moment of weakness with an analog led back to a pack a day. But I'm more than happy to get back to vaping. Anyway, my batteries showed up today so I got my rev2 running. Wow what a difference from the Mako Midi I used to have. I love this thing. After a few hours I've already got the menu memorized and feel very comfortable using it. Far more user friendly than my old Mako.
I just have one complaint. Twice now the unit has kept firing when I was going through the menu. The first time I panicked and pulled the battery out. The second time I just put it in my mouth, inhaled and it shut off. It hasn't continued to fire when I'm vaping it though.
Anyone else experience this? On a side note, I really like the vivi nova I'm using with this. I used to strictly drip on a 901, but this tastes almost as good and a lot more convenient. My only complaint with that is I wish it came with a small plug I could put in place of the drip tip so I could carry one or two different flavors in my pocket. I know I'm rambling, but lastly I'm so glad to see the price of premium juices have come down so drastically. I was spending a small fortune for high quality juice 2 years ago.
I just have one complaint. Twice now the unit has kept firing when I was going through the menu. The first time I panicked and pulled the battery out. The second time I just put it in my mouth, inhaled and it shut off. It hasn't continued to fire when I'm vaping it though.
Anyone else experience this? On a side note, I really like the vivi nova I'm using with this. I used to strictly drip on a 901, but this tastes almost as good and a lot more convenient. My only complaint with that is I wish it came with a small plug I could put in place of the drip tip so I could carry one or two different flavors in my pocket. I know I'm rambling, but lastly I'm so glad to see the price of premium juices have come down so drastically. I was spending a small fortune for high quality juice 2 years ago.
I haven't but I read a post a while back some-one did - it cuts off after 10 seconds. If you have menu 5 set to check ohms it will fire low, and also to check volts I think. I read that in the specs somewhere, its designed to do it.
Marv and Sennie... If Zmax requires IMR, looks like you're going to have to get them... not sure about NCM or exactly how you read the specs to determine if they are IMR but I'd ask the vendor.
IMO you get what you pay for, and batts are an item you need to stock up on.
You can't go wrong with AW, which also has a Protected 18650 which is not IMR, but IMR work in any mod so if the NCM are not IMR (hi drain, safe chem) get a couple and see if it makes a diff... if not, then you can send the Zmax back if you got it new.
Just saying.
btw AW has 2 IMR 18650's one with 1600 mah and one with 2000 mah rating.. both will work. They cost a few bucks more but good batts are an investment and an important factor in good vaping.
IMO you get what you pay for, and batts are an item you need to stock up on.
You can't go wrong with AW, which also has a Protected 18650 which is not IMR, but IMR work in any mod so if the NCM are not IMR (hi drain, safe chem) get a couple and see if it makes a diff... if not, then you can send the Zmax back if you got it new.
Just saying.
btw AW has 2 IMR 18650's one with 1600 mah and one with 2000 mah rating.. both will work. They cost a few bucks more but good batts are an investment and an important factor in good vaping.
Wow Kiwi, you answered quickly to my question last night too. 
I can't remember if I had menu 5 set to DV or DR when it did this. Right now I've got it set to DR because I'm switching between a couple old atty's I found in my garage. I do remember both times it happened I held the button a little longer than usual when initiating the menu. I think it got caught between opening the menu and firing.
I can't remember if I had menu 5 set to DV or DR when it did this. Right now I've got it set to DR because I'm switching between a couple old atty's I found in my garage. I do remember both times it happened I held the button a little longer than usual when initiating the menu. I think it got caught between opening the menu and firing.
I have experienced this on the v1 and the v2 a few times. I can't reproduce it when I try. She always cuts off at the 10 second limit and I usually just vape it out. At first it worried me but I don't play around with the menu much unless I'm turning off the display when I'm driving at night or checking voltage. Plus I am in so much love I don't care anymore.
If you press the button too fast after inserting a battery (say ten or fifteen seconds) it will fire during the menu. After inserting the battery give it a count of 20 to be safe and then go into the menu settings.
Because I also am unfamiliar with them here is what I found (copied and pasted from battery university)I'm not familiar with NCM batteries, so hopefully someone else can answer this for you.
Sony is focusing on the nickel-cobalt manganese (NCM) version. The cathode incorporates cobalt, nickel and manganese in the crystal structure that forms a multi-metal oxide material to which lithium is added. The manufacturer offers a range of different products within this battery family, catering to users that either needs high energy density or high load capability. It should be noted that these two attributes could not be combined in one and the same package; there is a compromise between the two. Note that the NCM charges to 4.10V/cell, 100mV lower than cobalt and spinel. Charging this battery chemistry to 4.20V/cell would provide higher capacities but the cycle life would be cut short. Instead of the customary 800 cycles achieved in a laboratory environment, the cycle count would be reduced to about 300.
Good to know. I didn't let it go 10 seconds either time it happened. I'm lovin this thing too and it's priced right. If the provari was $30 cheaper I would have bought that, but I can't justify the price when I also needed to pick up new atty's, batts, a charger, and juice. I gave all my stuff to a friend when he wanted to quit smoking and all I had left was 3 really old 510 that have 2 year old juice in them. Surprisingly, after cleaning them out they work fine. Moral of the story is I should have held onto my stuff for when I had a craving for an analog.I have experienced this on the v1 and the v2 a few times. I can't reproduce it when I try. She always cuts off at the 10 second limit and I usually just vape it out. At first it worried me but I don't play around with the menu much unless I'm turning off the display when I'm driving at night or checking voltage. Plus I am in so much love I don't care anymore.
It only fires on the initial press to get into the menu. It's not firing everytime I push the button once the menu has opened.
I did a look around too. The Panasonic make a CGR18650CG which is NCM. As far as I can see NCM aren't IMR.
Lots of people on ECF, including myself, are using the Panasonic CGR18650CH batteries in our mods. They can handle up to 10A power drain which most batteries can't. To date, nobody has reported a problem on ECF using these batteries. The majority of problems have occured when when LI-Ion batteries are stacked. These batteries are being used in a single cell configuration.
Different battery - you use CGR18650CH. The NCM I looked at is CGR18650CG. They are different batteries. From what I've read "CG has a PTC and is designed for currents <2C (laptop computers for example). CH does not have a PTC, and is designed for "mid-currents" of up to 10A."
Ideally a mod battery should have a C rating of 4 or greater.
Here's the same battery Sennie bought on alibaba.
It just says the vendor is L-Rider. Can't see any other info about who makes them. Nearly all the NCM batteries on alibaba I saw were for electrical bikes.
It just says the vendor is L-Rider. Can't see any other info about who makes them. Nearly all the NCM batteries on alibaba I saw were for electrical bikes.
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Don't use thoes NCM batteries in the ZMax! Go to RTD Vapor and get AW IMRs they will be at your door within 2-3 days guaranteed! That's the only place I ever get my batteries from and the prices are excellent not to mention very very good customer service and shipping speeds.
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That's where I ordered the original ones from and it took 4 days not their fault, they shipped Tuesday, we just didn't get them until today.
Phil Busardo's review of the Zmax V2 is up;
As far as batteries go, I've been using Efests instead of AW's for the past week - they're top quality and very good value. The Efests may not have the life-cycle of the AW's but they're a good bit cheaper.
As far as batteries go, I've been using Efests instead of AW's for the past week - they're top quality and very good value. The Efests may not have the life-cycle of the AW's but they're a good bit cheaper.
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