Status
Not open for further replies.

Paradicio

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 30, 2014
445
386
Altadena, CA
I don't think you can actually clone this for that sort of price. The clone will have a press-fit or welded top-cap, rather than being a single milled piece.

It's true, a friend of mine has a clone and it's not made from a single piece of metal. The top piece is separate. The seams are thin, but they are there.
 

duc916

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jul 10, 2012
806
729
Nor Cal
I just went over it with a 10x loupe. No seams.

IMG_1005.jpg
 
Last edited:

HeiSINberg

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 6, 2013
2,206
2,478
39
Groveville, NJ
I have a clone stainless steel smpl from Infinite and a copper authentic from epic designs. I love them both, even more then i loved my 4nine mods. The clone is all one solid piece, just like the authentic, the switches arent interchangeable, it does start to thread but doesnt actually thread all the way in. The clone i have is pretty spot on, i cant fault it for what it is and what i paid.
 

Heespharm

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 7, 2014
1,190
1,100
Htown,tx
I have a clone stainless steel smpl from Infinite and a copper authentic from epic designs. I love them both, even more then i loved my 4nine mods. The clone is all one solid piece, just like the authentic, the switches arent interchangeable, it does start to thread but doesnt actually thread all the way in. The clone i have is pretty spot on, i cant fault it for what it is and what i paid.

I have two authentic and one clone and the switches fit each other perfectly... Maybe a variance in clones


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

HeiSINberg

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 6, 2013
2,206
2,478
39
Groveville, NJ
I have two authentic and one clone and the switches fit each other perfectly... Maybe a variance in clones


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yeah maybe, its like it starts to go into the mod and then it stops. I also noticed the switch on the clone is a little taller then the authentic. Who made your clone? Infinite?
 

duc916

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jul 10, 2012
806
729
Nor Cal
Dunno it didn't say anything... Just a black box that said smpl on it


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My clone was also in a plain black box wrapped in cellophane, with a QC card and a stamp. Nothing more.

I like that the switch's thread pitch is a beefy 1mm, so much more robust and easier to clean than 0.5mm.
Very impressed with this clone.

smpl_mod.jpg smpl_switch.jpg
 
Last edited:

Moxienator

Super Squonker
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 22, 2014
932
2,346
Central Mass
Nah you don't put ordinary oil in an electrical contact, nor would that have any effect on the spring tension.
I use a noalox type grease. This $29 clone now has a buttery smooth switch.
I don't know, I use Latama quick release, and this authentic has a buttery smooth switch. Still hits like a train too. :unsure:

Wasn't spring tension, but friction from moving parts. I also thought that's what others were experiencing. My bad.

sent via Droid Mini
 

duc916

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jul 10, 2012
806
729
Nor Cal
Yeah, the industry standard for moving metal electrical contacts long before any ecig was invented has always been anti-oxidant grease. High current applications at low-voltage like our mech mods are especially susceptible to performance drops from oxidation. They aren't in any special category that would benefit from gun oil. :)
 

Portertown

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 20, 2013
1,103
1,304
Greenville, NC, USA
So got a chance to fire this up last night. Put my Mutation X V1 on it, .3 ohm 24g vertical build.

I'm going to go ahead and compare this mod to my Nanos Sleek since the two look so much alike and are almost the same size. I really dig my Nanos. Rhodium contacts.....awesome switch....it hits great, with a freshly charged battery. And that is the downside of the Nanos. Once you get a few puffs off it, performance drops dramatically.
Now, this Mutation X I'm rocking on my SMPL came right off the Nanos. This, I figured, would give me an apples to apples comparison.

The SMPL does NOT suffer the same issue as the Nanos. The hits are consistent all the way through. I'm sure this is due to it being a hybrid, vs the Nanos which has a top cap with contact pins. That said, I've got other mods with top caps and contact pins that do not have the same issue. And theirs aren't rhodium.

The switch on the SMPL is a little stiff, but I'm sure it will loosen up in time.

And while we are on the subject of the switch.... I dropped by my local B&M last night, where a few of the guys have been rocking SMPL mods for a while. We noticed a slight difference between theirs and mine. The contact point on their switches are straight flat, while mine is cupped. After struggling a bit to figure out why, it came to one of their builders. Nipple top batteries. With the old design you could not run nipple top batteries without the switch protruding from the base of the mod. With the new cupped design it allows for just that tiny bit of space you need. Genius in design.

All in all I'm liking this mod quite a lot. I'm thinking it may take the place of my 4 Nine as my "go everywhere" mech, since I wouldn't have to fuss with loose magnets any longer. Now that is an idea! :vapor:

I also have a Nanos and do not seem to have the issue with it that you are having with your Nanos. I have found that I only have a drop off in performance when the switch gets dirty, which will happen due to the design of the Nanos switch. With the button part of the switch being outside of the battery tube, it is an easy opening for dust and such to enter. What I have found that works good for me is to clean the switch on my Nanos weekly by taking it apart and cleaning it with a soft toothbrush and toothpaste. After a good cleaning, I rinse the toothbrush with water and then brush the switch parts again under running hot water to make sure all the toothpaste is removed.
After drying the parts, put a very small amount of NO-OX-ID "A SPECIAL (this really helps with oxidation) on the faces of the two switch parts that contact each other. About once per month I will clean the battery tube threads, etc. I have had no problems with the Rhodium plated contacts tarnishing so far.
Doing this keeps my Nanos working great and it is used daily, both at home and when I am out and about. At the present I have a Dark Horse RDA with a .24 ohm 26 gauge dual coil build on my Nanos.
I have been thinking of getting an SMPL as I like the looks of it also.
 
Last edited:

Paradicio

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 30, 2014
445
386
Altadena, CA
I also have a Nanos and do not seem to have the issue with it that you are having with your Nanos. I have found that I only have a drop off in performance when the switch gets dirty, which will happen due to the design of the Nanos switch. With the button part of the switch being outside of the battery tube, it is an easy opening for dust and such to enter. What I have found that works good for me is to clean the switch on my Nanos weekly by taking it apart and cleaning it with a soft toothbrush and toothpaste. After a good cleaning, I rinse the toothbrush with water and then brush the switch parts again under running hot water to make sure all the toothpaste is removed.
After drying the parts, put a very small amount of NO-OX-ID "A SPECIAL (this really helps with oxidation) on the faces of the two switch parts that contact each other. About once per month I will clean the battery tube threads, etc. I have had no problems with the Rhodium plated contacts tarnishing so far.
Doing this keeps my Nanos working great and it is used daily, both at home and when I am out and about. At the present I have a Dark Horse RDA with a .24 ohm 26 gauge dual coil build on my Nanos.
I have been thinking of getting an SMPL as I like the looks of it also.

Thanks for the tips, however my Nanos has been that way right out of the box. The SMPL just works.
 

havoc1967

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Aug 21, 2013
348
290
58
Colorado Springs
Ok....time for what is possibly a stupid question (but you know what they say). I have, and have had, quite a few mech mods. But none with direct atomizer/battery contact like the 4Nine and SMPL among others. The SMPL really appeals to me but I am curious about several things. Will it work with button as well as flat top batteries? I have read this is for experienced users only as you may get a short in the battery.Please explain, because I am kind of dense ;) I love the plain look and that it is Made in USA, just curious about any drawbacks, disadvantages, etc. So please educate me. If this has been addressed and thoroughly explained elsewhere I do apologize. A very Happy Thanksgiving to all and may you spend it with friends and family.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread