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sahsah

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I love my copper SMPL (authentic). Actually, I love it enough for me to start liquidating some other USA made authentics so I can pick up another one.
I like the asthetics of the mod and the design concept, but I'm worried about the performance and I'm not a fan of spring switches. How does your copper compare to other heavy hitters on the market in terms of voltage drop and is it enjoyable/a pleasure to use? Has anyone sent it to jkuro to get the official numbers for VD yet?
 

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They actually said a long time ago when i asked them on instagram about making different buttons amd they said they were. So hopefully that holds true, i would love an all copper smpl.

I don't mind the button being brass, I think the contrast of the two materials is actually quite attractive. I just want the actual contact to get an upgrade. Also, I'd love for a magnetic switch opposed to the current spring since that'd also help the voltage drop substantially
 

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I never updated this thread, but very strange turn of events. I ended up moving from my apartment. About a month into living at my new place, the mod shows up in my mailbox, at the new address. I have no idea what happened. My guess is the USPS had it sitting at the post office for almost 2 months. Saw my change of address/forward mail request and sent it my way? Even though I visited and called my local office a handful of times with no success. Just when I gave up, it shows up. Go figure. By then I had already moved on and purchased an 18650 SS zombie mod. I still have the SMPL in its original package, unused lol
omg that's so awesome! I'm so happy your story received its deserved happy ending after all, but it would be just perfect if somehow we could add in a ..... slap for whomever is responsible for this show of utter incompetence. This just verifys my suspicions that when I call customer service places and ask them to check things like a package they don't even look
 

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I don't mind the button being brass, I think the contrast of the two materials is actually quite attractive. I just want the actual contact to get an upgrade. Also, I'd love for a magnetic switch opposed to the current spring since that'd also help the voltage drop substantially
The button and contact are entirely one piece which gives the switch more surface area for conductivity, that is why there is a snap ring holding the switch together. Furthermore, the portion of the switch that contacts the battery when depressed is also in contact with almost the entire outer circumference of the switch while depressed which means that current is never sent through the spring, adding magnets would do nothing to improve the voltage drop of an Authentic SMPL. The SMPL has very little issue with voltage drop to begin with as there are fewer threaded connections than any other mod on the market. I own three authentic SMPL's and they perform well above average in the voltage drop department, despite having a spring driven switch. There's no hot button either, I've pushed all three of mine very hard with .15 ohm daily use for months. The spring in all three devices looks practically brand new, because no current ever passes through it.

You should have no worries on the performance of the SMPL, I've had mine for long enough to know a great thing is in my hands. Minus the spring and snap ring there are only three actual parts to the entire device.

Edit: The brass SMPL has been out of stock for three days on thevaporlair.com
 
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26650 brass smpl 30mm round please [emoji120]
I wish! Oh man that would probably get me to buy my first 26650 device. I actually thought long and hard about the El Gigante since the switch sort of works like a SMPL but I ultimately decided that I still didn't want it.
 

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I finally got my SXK SMPL mod clone today and this thing is pretty slick. The throw of the switch is perfect, it's very smooth. The tube is perfect as well, not an imperfection on it that I can find and it was already cleaned, no machine oil or anything on it though I did clean the threads up a bit just to be safe. The threads on the switch were a little dirty though but it didn't take long to clean those up.

The only problem I'm having is that with the very long pin on my Magma the switch isn't recessed and sticks out a little bit. It doesn't fire under it's own weight though and even if I push it down flush with the base it doesn't fire either so I'm okay with that. Not a fault of the SMPL mod though as my other drippers fit fine.

I think I may have to pick up a brass authentic next time they're in stock...
 

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To everyone who owns the clone, could you please verify if you see an almost undetectable pressed-in top cap? There was someone who verified to not being a one piece design by tapping out the top cap. This is making me hold back until i can confirm a clone that is a true one piece. Thanks

Both of mine have a pressed in top cap but I haven't had any issues. It is extremely unlikely that any of these cheap clones were milled out of solid bar stock.
 

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The infinite version is a solid one piece. I got the stainless version to go with my copper authentic.
Have you tested it to be sure? I'm not saying it's not one piece but I have personally seen a Brass clone that completely hid the press fit seam up top and without knocking it out, you would never have been able to see it from the outside.

Now with that being said, if anyone was going to take the time to make a true one piece design I'm not surprised that it's likely infinite doing it, the infinite clones are a good $20-$30 more than most of the other clones on the market and I am assuming that increase in price is due to the increased machining costs associated with making it out of a single piece. Most of the infinite clones are $40-50+ whereas the cheap china FT or Focal clones are all under $20, makes sense that the infinite would be better quality with the increase in price.
 

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Have you tested it to be sure? I'm not saying it's not one piece but I have personally seen a Brass clone that completely hid the press fit seam up top and without knocking it out, you would never have been able to see it from the outside.

Now with that being said, if anyone was going to take the time to make a true one piece design I'm not surprised that it's likely infinite doing it, the infinite clones are a good $20-$30 more than most of the other clones on the market and I am assuming that increase in price is due to the increased machining costs associated with making it out of a single piece. Most of the infinite clones are $40-50+ whereas the cheap china FT or Focal clones are all under $20, makes sense that the infinite would be better quality with the increase in price.

Although I'm reluctant about getting the clones due to them having a pressed-fit top, I imagine it still has to be better than any other mech that has adjustable tubings (ex: Nemesis, Stingray, etc.), at least in terms of VD. I ordered an SXK SS clone a few hours ago for $28.99 off ebay. Crossing my fingers
 

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This design just makes a lot more sense for people who want max performance and don't care for using less common battery sizes. I solely use 18650 so the extra tubings are useless to me. Also it's annoying to constantly lock/unlock.
I hope a lot more manufacturers come out with one piece mechs. The SMPL design is a bit too plain for my taste but at this point it's function > form for me. VD is no fun.
 

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To everyone who owns the clone, could you please verify if you see an almost undetectable pressed-in top cap? There was someone who verified to not being a one piece design by tapping out the top cap. This is making me hold back until i can confirm a clone that is a true one piece. Thanks

Figured I'd respond here so others can see my response instead of replying to your PM:

I just took a look at it for you and at least right now I'm not able to see any seams or anything that indicate it is press fit. I also looked on the inside and couldn't see anything. As Froth has shown though, the seams on some of the clones are just very well hidden and without trying to pop the top cap off it, it's really hard to be sure.

I bought mine from Ohm Busters off ebay for $27 though their listing was removed by ebay apparently right after they shipped mine. They still have it on their website though for $34 shipped.
 
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