So I started with a V2 starter kit and am now researching my next step. There are to many options! Need some simple advice for my next step in vaping. I would like something that makes more vapor. I think I want to stick to cartomizers instead of using a three piece system. Don't know where to go. Ohms, variable voltages, tanks, dual coils, single coils. It's to much. My heads gonna explode!!
So confused.
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My opinion if you want to stick with cartomizers would be - 2 Ego twists with boge cartomizers in a variety of ohms.
Lol I'm not the one to try to explain ohms and volts, someone else will chime in with info or a link.
Lol I'm not the one to try to explain ohms and volts, someone else will chime in with info or a link.
I can tell you what worked for me. Smoktek.com has really fast shipping and good prices on prepunched cartomizers, these are made especially for tanks, they have a flange on the bottom that prevents leakage. Id recommend the 2 hole ones. Madvapes also has good prices. You can pick up a cheap dct tank there and zmax for a decent price or you could go top dollar and get a Provari and Phiniac tank along with those cartos and you'll be good to go. You'll also need a charger and aw 18650 batteries.
I was a two pack a day smoker for 30 years before using this setup.
I would say you should step up to a VV (Variable Voltage) system. The 2 most popular ones, that are inexpensive are Ego twists, or the Vision Spinners. It's going to be bigger than what you have but you'll get more battery life, and able to fine tune the voltage to what works best for you. They both basically have a dial on the bottom thats lets you adjust how much voltage you are using.
You can still use your cartos, but the issue will be you are using 808 cartos, while the Twist and Spinner both use 510 threads (the most popular thread size out there.) What you can do is buy a 510-808/901 adapter that will let you use your existing cartos. Most people go ahead and get a tank, like a Vivi Nova, or Mini Vivi Nova (both work great.) You will see a lot of people talking about how much they like them, including myself
For either the Twist or Spinner you would also need a Ego Charger, and probably some ejuice (you should get juice even if you want to go the carto route and refill them yourself.) Also most people tend to get 2 of the Twists or Spinners so you have one when you are charging the other (they run like $25-$30 each.) You can get by with one, and see how it works and then buy another, or use your V2 as a backup using your 808 cartos.
There are other mods out there, but after you get your feet wet with vaping, most tend to go to a VV device.
Please ask more questions, because yes, it does get very confusing. Btw I wouldn't worry all that much about volts and ohms right now. With a VV system you can just start it off low, and turn the dial until you get to a point that you like...the actual numbers won't really matter, unless you want to know Plus there are charts, and apps that will help you out with that.
You can still use your cartos, but the issue will be you are using 808 cartos, while the Twist and Spinner both use 510 threads (the most popular thread size out there.) What you can do is buy a 510-808/901 adapter that will let you use your existing cartos. Most people go ahead and get a tank, like a Vivi Nova, or Mini Vivi Nova (both work great.) You will see a lot of people talking about how much they like them, including myself
For either the Twist or Spinner you would also need a Ego Charger, and probably some ejuice (you should get juice even if you want to go the carto route and refill them yourself.) Also most people tend to get 2 of the Twists or Spinners so you have one when you are charging the other (they run like $25-$30 each.) You can get by with one, and see how it works and then buy another, or use your V2 as a backup using your 808 cartos.There are other mods out there, but after you get your feet wet with vaping, most tend to go to a VV device.
Please ask more questions, because yes, it does get very confusing. Btw I wouldn't worry all that much about volts and ohms right now. With a VV system you can just start it off low, and turn the dial until you get to a point that you like...the actual numbers won't really matter, unless you want to know
Plus there are charts, and apps that will help you out with that.
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Thanks for the simple help. When people start putting out formulas with ohms law and whatnot it gets to be to much. I have been refilling my cartos. I've been getting my juice from V2 but they don't have a great variety so I just ordered a sample pack from The Vapor Room. Waiting anxiously for them to arrive. I've also ordered the new tank thing that V2 has just put out. I wanted to see if I liked the tanks and my cartos are getting worn out.
I have been vaping for a long time and couldn't be bothered with all that baloney! It is completely unnecessary.
You can't go wrong with some kind of eGo battery. An eGo-Twist is nice because you can just dial up a bit if necessary for a hotter vape. You don't need to know anything about ohms law! But any eGo battery is good. By the way a good and easy pairing is a Vivi Nova Mini. Easy to fill, no leaking and even though it has different resistance heads, doesn't matter, especially if you have a Twist, just dial up or down to taste. But I am using my ViVi on a plain old 650mAh eGo and very happy. Just fill up and vape. Easy.
You can't go wrong with some kind of eGo battery. An eGo-Twist is nice because you can just dial up a bit if necessary for a hotter vape. You don't need to know anything about ohms law! But any eGo battery is good. By the way a good and easy pairing is a Vivi Nova Mini. Easy to fill, no leaking and even though it has different resistance heads, doesn't matter, especially if you have a Twist, just dial up or down to taste. But I am using my ViVi on a plain old 650mAh eGo and very happy. Just fill up and vape. Easy.
what she said! I havent gone the vv route yet and still I am happy. I have both 1100 mah batteries and 650 batteries - I use them both with mini Vivi Nova tanks. Lots of vapor, great flavor and nothing to fiddle with. I have reduced frustration by keeping it simple and that works very well for me.
I happen to disagree with you cant go wrong with a ego or ego type. They are disposable 8 batteries and you could of got a Provari. They have poor reliability Ive seen thread after thread of egos going down after a few weeks. I would strongly suggest a Variable Voltage battery tube or Box mod. Preferably American made. with American made you get better quality,reliability, product support, even reasonably priced repairs if needed. Chinese mods are SOL if guarantee is expired. Here is a very reasonably priced box mob link http://www.mister-e-liquid.com/the-detonator-vv-variable-voltage-mod-v2/
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Different delivery systems:- note bolded Atty, Carto, etc is the abbreviated form
Atomizer/ Atty- an element on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming.
Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.
Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out. My Cartos last 1-2 weeks. Best Cartomizer I’ve found is the Smok Tech XL 1.7 single coil. Boge 2.0 ohm cartos will give a cooler vape. Always use single coil cartos with 3.3- 3.7 PVs for the best vape.
Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs: light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml.
Clearomizer, Tank/ Clearo (includes the Stardust Clearomizer and the Vivi Nova Tank)- a plastic or metal tank with a wick and element. Contains NO stuffing. The rebuildable clearos come with heads (coil+ wick) that can be cheaply and easily replaced. When the head burns out simply unscrew the old head out and screw in new head- takes 10 secs. My Vivi Nova heads are lasting about 4 weeks BUT I wash the heads every few days. I've found the Vivi Nova to give the best draw.
With VV PVs...1.8 ohms good from 3.3-4 volts. 2.6 ohms good from 4-4.8 volts. For the eGo or Kgo 1.8 ohms works best.
Atomizer/ Atty- an element on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming.
Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.
Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out. My Cartos last 1-2 weeks. Best Cartomizer I’ve found is the Smok Tech XL 1.7 single coil. Boge 2.0 ohm cartos will give a cooler vape. Always use single coil cartos with 3.3- 3.7 PVs for the best vape.
Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs: light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml.
Clearomizer, Tank/ Clearo (includes the Stardust Clearomizer and the Vivi Nova Tank)- a plastic or metal tank with a wick and element. Contains NO stuffing. The rebuildable clearos come with heads (coil+ wick) that can be cheaply and easily replaced. When the head burns out simply unscrew the old head out and screw in new head- takes 10 secs. My Vivi Nova heads are lasting about 4 weeks BUT I wash the heads every few days. I've found the Vivi Nova to give the best draw.
With VV PVs...1.8 ohms good from 3.3-4 volts. 2.6 ohms good from 4-4.8 volts. For the eGo or Kgo 1.8 ohms works best.
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Different PVs and what you might consider- Realize battery info: 100 mah= 1 hour normal vaping before requiring recharge. If vaping on a variable volt at a higher voltage battery life will be diminished.
eGo Class:
JoyTech eGo fires @ 3.3 volts, SmokTech eGo fires @ 3.7 volts and the Kgo fires @ 3.7 volts- comes in 650, 900 or 1100 mah depending on the manufacturer- most popular 510 threading/ connection and are manual. I own a Kgo and I LOVE it. Have used the eGo and prefer the Kgo because of the higher voltage.
eGo Starter Kit cost anywhere from $50- $80.
Kgo starter kit costs about $40-$50:
KGO kit1100mAh by SLB original version
or
KGO kit1100mAh by SLB newer version
Mini Variable Volt PV: 510 threading/ connection. Manual Batteries.
Kgo VV- only comes in 650 mah- I own it and find battery life a problem.
Twist comes in 650, 900 and 1000 mah. Dial very narrow/ smooth and not easy to turn. Voltage numbers very hard to read/ invisible. Button occasionally sticks.
Vision Spinner comes in 400, 650, 900, 1100 and 1300 mah. Wide knurled voltage dial easy to turn and easy to read voltage markings. 1300 mah Spinner is the same size as 1000 Twist.
Both variable voltage PVs above fire from 3.3-4.8 volts.
I own both the Twists and Spinners and prefer the latter.
1300 Vision Spinner- 113mm or ~4.4 inches long; 16MM WIDE, 2MM WIDER THAN A STANDARD EGO
1100 Vision Spinner- 119mm or ~4.75 inches long
1000 Twist- Length 120mm(4.75")/Diameter 14mm
Advantage of the VV- when stressed and need a stronger hit I can easily and quickly dial up the voltage. For an all day vape I can lower it to 3.7-4.0. Also some flavors really shine at high voltage while others at a lower voltage.
My recommendation: If looking for a non VV the kgo is an excellent choice, has been out for well over a year and has many happy users.
If wanting a Mini VV the Spinner gets my
because of the size, ease of use and more powerful battery. Regardless of your choice any of the above mentioned PVs will give you a far superior vape and vapor. Also avoid ANY Starter Kit that comes with the outdated "tank" system- atomizers+ cartridges- prone to leaks and a waste of $$.
eGo Class:
JoyTech eGo fires @ 3.3 volts, SmokTech eGo fires @ 3.7 volts and the Kgo fires @ 3.7 volts- comes in 650, 900 or 1100 mah depending on the manufacturer- most popular 510 threading/ connection and are manual. I own a Kgo and I LOVE it. Have used the eGo and prefer the Kgo because of the higher voltage.
eGo Starter Kit cost anywhere from $50- $80.
Kgo starter kit costs about $40-$50:
KGO kit1100mAh by SLB original version
or
KGO kit1100mAh by SLB newer version
Mini Variable Volt PV: 510 threading/ connection. Manual Batteries.
Kgo VV- only comes in 650 mah- I own it and find battery life a problem.
Twist comes in 650, 900 and 1000 mah. Dial very narrow/ smooth and not easy to turn. Voltage numbers very hard to read/ invisible. Button occasionally sticks.
Vision Spinner comes in 400, 650, 900, 1100 and 1300 mah. Wide knurled voltage dial easy to turn and easy to read voltage markings. 1300 mah Spinner is the same size as 1000 Twist.
Both variable voltage PVs above fire from 3.3-4.8 volts.
I own both the Twists and Spinners and prefer the latter.
1300 Vision Spinner- 113mm or ~4.4 inches long; 16MM WIDE, 2MM WIDER THAN A STANDARD EGO
1100 Vision Spinner- 119mm or ~4.75 inches long
1000 Twist- Length 120mm(4.75")/Diameter 14mm
Advantage of the VV- when stressed and need a stronger hit I can easily and quickly dial up the voltage. For an all day vape I can lower it to 3.7-4.0. Also some flavors really shine at high voltage while others at a lower voltage.
My recommendation: If looking for a non VV the kgo is an excellent choice, has been out for well over a year and has many happy users.
If wanting a Mini VV the Spinner gets my
because of the size, ease of use and more powerful battery. Regardless of your choice any of the above mentioned PVs will give you a far superior vape and vapor. Also avoid ANY Starter Kit that comes with the outdated "tank" system- atomizers+ cartridges- prone to leaks and a waste of $$.
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I started with v2 and did not like the constant charging of batts and sometimes the inconsistency of the flavors. Cartos for me were expensive and a pain filling constantly. If you are a very light smoker they work well. My next step was a KGO with 1100mah which lasted me all day and charged in 2.5 hrs. 100mah is equal to about 1 hour of usage. My feeble brain figures lower ohms go with lower volts and higher ohms go with higher volts and it works for me. A bit bigger battery is the only way to go whether you get variable voltage or not. VV is one of the newer things out in the medium size batts and it works great, the twist and spinner are two examples. One of the best things I have found is the vivi nova tank for these, no fiberfill, reusable, easy to use, clean and reasonably priced. You use them over and over and just screw on a new head when they go bad after a couple weeks to a month. You will learn a tremendous amount about the things that are so confusing to you now on this forum as I have .
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