So how big of an issue is the lateral battery rattle / shift / movement?

[Gato del Jugo]

Firstly, it's definitely not the internals or the button.. I'm fine there

And it's not up & down (end cap to 510 top)..


It's when you hold it in the air straight up, and shake it side to side for a few inches.. like the battery shifting back & forth, bumping the sides inside

I can also replicate it by holding it in the air straight up with my thumb & index finger, and tapping it with my middle finger

Happens in both 490 mode & 650 mode.. using AW IMR button-tops


Not like there's a reason I should be doing that stuff for normal vaping anyway, LOL.. but, not sure if that's normal?


Did a search and saw that happening at a couple places, but not much help

Also found this, but other things are going on there, and can't determine if the question refers to lateral -- or up & down movement.. (I have none of the other issues)...

https://provape.zendesk.com/entries...linking-I-have-to-tap-my-ProVari-to-get-it-to

Wondering if #1 would resolve (stretching out the spring a bit).. my theory is a more elongated spring would provide a little more tension & perhaps keep the battery more stable, even laterally?


This doesn't occur on my other non-ProVari; nor have I contacted ProVape just yet

Suggestions? Anybody else experience this? Would it possibly go away on its own as the spring adjusts automatically over time?


Thanks!

 

[BernieVideo]

Well. I shook mine in every conceivable direction and finally think I heard and felt what you are describing.

Instead of looking at it as a problem why not look at it as a feature? Lol.

I don't think stretching the spring is gonna do much. I think that the sleeve is just a bit wider than the battery and even with more spring tension you will be able to make the battery rattle.

Any other odd things you have found?

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[Gato del Jugo]

Mine's fairly easy to replicate with a light shake, every time..

Completely understand the need for the sleeve to be a little wider.. it is on my non-ProVari, too -- but I don't get the lateral battery wiggle with that when the end cap is on


Tried stretching the spring a bit.. still the same


No other issues currently...

 

[Jazzman]

Mine's fairly easy to replicate with a light shake, every time..

Completely understand the need for the sleeve to be a little wider.. it is on my non-ProVari, too -- but I don't get the lateral battery wiggle with that when the end cap is on


Tried stretching the spring a bit.. still the same


No other issues currently...

I've seen a couple of posts that say the issue could be the board is loose inside the tube. It should hot glued to the inside of the tube and sometimes it doesn't have good adhesion. Take out the battery and stick your finger inside (use the eraser side of a pencil or something like that if your finger won't fit) and gently see if you can move the board. If you can it needs to be glued. My local shop offered to do that to my new Provari, even though it didn't have the issue, because he has seen the issue enough times to do it as a precautionary measure. I decided not to, but that was his suggestion.

Any way only takes seconds to check so give a test and let us know.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

I've seen a couple of posts that say the issue could be the board is loose inside the tube. It should hot glued to the inside of the tube and sometimes it doesn't have good adhesion. Take out the battery and stick your finger inside (use the eraser side of a pencil or something like that if your finger won't fit) and gently see if you can move the board. If you can it needs to be glued. My local shop offered to do that to my new Provari, even though it didn't have the issue, because he has seen the issue enough times to do it as a precautionary measure. I decided not to, but that was his suggestion.

Any way only takes seconds to check so give a test and let us know.

Hey, thanks for the info...


I tested it per your instructions, everything checks out okay with the pencil test..

Even angled the unit & shined a flashlight through the window -- the white glue blobs at the top corners of the chip appear large & solid, and if I'm not mistaken, not only at the 2 corners' sides, but also butting up against the top of the unit


I could be wrong, but I don't believe it's the internals, as I can't replicate it unless a battery is in there -- and it's only side to side (not up & down).

Oddly enough, the smallish flashlight I used also does the side-to-side battery wiggle, heh (and quiet without them)... then again, it's only 5-10 bucks... but works fine, otherwise

However, my non-Provari is quiet all around


I did submit an email thingy to ProVape to see what they think.. Honestly, it could be nothing

Just think it's weird that it's doing this fairly easily & consistently with just a light shake / tap of mine, yet others aren't really experiencing it on theirs..


I'll keep you guys updated...

 

[magman007]

mine rattles a bit, its annoying at times, but its no big deal. Let me know what they say!

 

[Gato del Jugo]

You know what?

I think I might have potentially figured it out...


I first checked the placement of the display, thinking perhaps that part of the internals could have been installed just a little too close to the 510 top..

Nope, window measures 14mm -- and the center line between the 2 LCD display panels lands right on 7mm. Centered where it should be


So, I take off the end cap, and use my finger as the "new" end cap, slowly increasing just enough gentle pressure to the point of... you guessed it, no more lateral battery jiggle!


This would make sense, since I can also replicate this "finger end cap" with my non-ProVari from jiggle to no jiggle..


Still interested in hearing what ProVape says, and will try stretching the spring again for each end cap later on...


If this is all that's going on, then I'll be pretty relieved (especially if I can successfully adjust the springs myself!)

 

[Xcighippy]

Thing I noticed with mine is, if you are using AW brand battery's , mine rattles a slight bit. I believe this is normal. As Provape recommends using ONLY these brand battery's. The Provari was designed around AW brand battery's. I was using Efest battery's and the rattle was not there because they are slightly longer. However, being longer can cause the circuit board to be pushed up into the tube and break the glue holding the board in place. Ask me how I know this!

 

[Jazzman]

You know what?

I think I might have potentially figured it out...


I first checked the placement of the display, thinking perhaps that part of the internals could have been installed just a little too close to the 510 top..

Nope, window measures 14mm -- and the center line between the 2 LCD display panels lands right on 7mm. Centered where it should be


So, I take off the end cap, and use my finger as the "new" end cap, slowly increasing just enough gentle pressure to the point of... you guessed it, no more lateral battery jiggle!


This would make sense, since I can also replicate this "finger end cap" with my non-ProVari from jiggle to no jiggle..


Still interested in hearing what ProVape says, and will try stretching the spring again for each end cap later on...


If this is all that's going on, then I'll be pretty relieved (especially if I can successfully adjust the springs myself!)

I just measure my spring height from the bottom of the standard end cap, the outside of the bottom, and the end of the spring. It measures 15mm exactly. My battery doesn't move so maybe that will help as a baseline measurement.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

I just measure my spring height from the bottom of the standard end cap, the outside of the bottom, and the end of the spring. It measures 15mm exactly. My battery doesn't move so maybe that will help as a baseline measurement.

Awesome.. 1000 likes!!

This is exactly what I needed


My standard cap spring measured about 12.5mm to 13mm at baseline

Got it up to 15mm -- no more battery jiggle in 490 mode!!


Thank GAWD!!! LOL


Now onto the extension cap, which is a bit trickier, but I believe I have the proper small-enough tools


Oh, and in case anybody is wondering, not that I know from personal experience, but the springs apparently can be a little tricky to get back if you accidently pop them out.. as they have their own threading


Jazzman, for the win!!!

 

[Gato del Jugo]

And... extension cap for 650 mode -- no more lateral battery jiggle!


For that one, used a couple small flat-head screwdrivers (or something equivalent) -- one to hold the lower spring at the base so it doesn't pop out, the other to stretch up the middle & top spring areas at different directions to keep it straight


I can now sleep much better tonight..

 

[Train2]

Nicely solved!

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Nicely solved!

Huge sigh of relief, LOL


I ammended & closed the ProVape trouble ticket -- phew!

 

[magman007]

Just stretched mine using needle nose pliers and a flat head. Thanks for the tip with the screw driver. I also am now rattle free.

 

[Jazzman]

And... extension cap for 650 mode -- no more lateral battery jiggle!


For that one, used a couple small flat-head screwdrivers (or something equivalent) -- one to hold the lower spring at the base so it doesn't pop out, the other to stretch up the middle & top spring areas at different directions to keep it straight


I can now sleep much better tonight..

Provari operation successful. Good work Gato. Now you can concentrate on getting accessories and toppers!

 

[PLANofMAN]

Thing I noticed with mine is, if you are using AW brand battery's , mine rattles a slight bit. I believe this is normal. As Provape recommends using ONLY these brand battery's. The Provari was designed around AW brand battery's. I was using Efest battery's and the rattle was not there because they are slightly longer. However, being longer can cause the circuit board to be pushed up into the tube and break the glue holding the board in place. Ask me how I know this!

Actually the ProVari was designed around Li-Ion protected 18650/18490 batteries. They switched to AW IMR batteries fairly early on, but anyone who has old (pre-AW branded) ProVape "ProVari Power" batteries can tell you that the old ProVari batteries were about 1 mm longer than the currently recommended AW IMR's.

Enough to make a difference? I think so.

Edit: after more research, I discovered the 2500 mAh Li-ion batteries were introduced by ProVape in the fall of 2011, so they were using IMR's before and after the Li-ion ones. My bad.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Just stretched mine using needle nose pliers and a flat head. Thanks for the tip with the screw driver. I also am now rattle free.

Good to hear!


I originally tried it with needle-nosed pliers, but mine were a bit too big for the job.. I think with 2 flat-heads, you also can get more fine-tuning


Amazing how just a smidge off on something as silly as the spring can make a world of difference...