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edyle

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I'm like Robin, until I came here I didn't know anything about battery safety.
Everything I own runs on batteries--I carry a GPS on my person all the time--a GPS locater plus a couple of radios--a cell phone and a laptop in the truck and I don't know what all else.
I used to grab a hand full of AA's and AAA's and just put them in my pocket loose. Along with a pocket full of change for the Timmy's drive-thru, a pocket knife and maybe a couple of 30-30 shells.
I guess I've just been lucky I haven't set myself on fire--I guess the good lord must look after us fools and drunks!
Did I mention I work as a safety officer on a logging crew?

Was supposed to have a team meeting today to discuss 'slips and falls'.
I think I'll change the topic.

Putting the common AA and AAA or even D size (which is 26650 size) batteries loose in your pocket is not a great idea, but it's still a world apart from LITHIUM batteries.

Those common AA, AAA and D size batteries don't even have milliamphour ratings on them.

Lithium batteries can output high power, they pack a lot of energy, and they have the potential for suffering from thermal runaway (which basically means like a chain reaction).
 

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People like this are why you can't buy a cup of hot coffee in the US without a warning label on it. Maybe I'm special, but when I order a hot coffee, I have the suspicion that it is going to be hot.

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Me too.
And opening said cup of hot coffee over my crotch to add sugar and creamer, while sitting in a car, is double-straight jacket padded cell crazy.

In 100 years aliens will find a copy of "Idiocracy" and think it was a documentary.
 

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Looks should have nothing to do with what you think of somebody, it makes you look low saying that.

In all honesty though I dont believe this happened. 1st i dont believe somebody would just happen to have 2 unwrapped batts let alone 1. 2nd this just happens when youre around and not the whole time he had it in his pocket before you were there. An unwrapped battery would of most likely shorted out in his mod. I cant believe somebody would be that stupid and ive met tons of really dumb people.

Good story though.
 

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I've seen people put batteries in their pockets unprotected, some have even done so at a vape shop I visit... most often after buying a new "loose" battery. I often carry and 18650 in my pocket all day.... but only after finding these Rubber Battery Holder (4 Pieces) | Sun-Vapers.com
These are even sold on FT. I like them more than a box because they don't add much more than the battery in size, and can even be hung from a key ring :)
 

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Looks should have nothing to do with what you think of somebody, it makes you look low saying that.

I do so agree with you.

My vape gear is just like tools........they aren't show pieces. Never have been into that. But that doesn't mean they aren't tested, cleaned, and working properly.

The ONLY time I ever had a problem with batteries was from a vendor here who threw 4 "loose" batteries into a padded envelope and mailed them to me, jangling around inside the envelope, with zero protection on the ends. When I wrote that I was unhappy to receive this package, not to mention that it went on an airplane to get to me, the vendor tried to "school" me about how lithium batts weren't all that dangerous like I thought. :facepalm:

@roxynoodle: ONE DAY this company WILL get sued, and I will be on the side of the person who is doing the suing. :)

It did occur to me to report them to their USPS carrier, because they are putting personnel at risk IMHO shipping that way.

Lately I've also had glass bottles shipped to me not in a box but in a thin bubble envelope. 30ml glass bottles.

It's pretty sad when the customers have to teach the people they are buying things from how to ship their products.
 
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I'm glad juggler said it before me. These stories always seem to follow a headline story. After vapeblast, people had mechs venting left and right....one on a streetcar where our heroic author dove off the car into the safety of an empty alleyway so no innocent children were hurt.
Then the over nic scare...

Now this.

Don't put batteries in your pockets. If your batteries have no wrappers, rewrap them or recycle them.

Why did someone that stupid have keys? Hopefully they were to his bike lock.
 

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Looks should have nothing to do with what you think of somebody, it makes you look low saying that.

In all honesty though I dont believe this happened. 1st i dont believe somebody would just happen to have 2 unwrapped batts let alone 1. 2nd this just happens when youre around and not the whole time he had it in his pocket before you were there. An unwrapped battery would of most likely shorted out in his mod. I cant believe somebody would be that stupid and ive met tons of really dumb people.

Good story though.

I really didn't mean it to sound that way.

And yes, this actually did happen. I don't know why it waited until that moment to short out, but the story is true. He had 2 unwrapped batteries. I found out later that he had bought the gear (including batteries) used from another co-worker.
 

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Very similar situation where I work. Kevin a semi n00b vapor. Started with the typical Ego type bat a couple months ago. Now he is sporting a mech, a RDA, and his 18650. The Mech is some kind of copper job that he tells me is constantly sticking (powering the bat) He has taken off the drip tip 'cause he can get better hits with out it, he is going to cloud competitions, etc.... He is such a recipe for disaster !! He doesn't sit behind a desk. He works in the warehouse, so constantly on the move. Keeps mod in his pocket, pulls out his bottle of juice, drips, hits, moves on.... I just try to give him my experience which is bring the simple stuff to work that keeps you off the stinkies, wait til you get home to use the heavy hitters. I've referred him to Reos for easier dripping like atty and better taste. I've referred him to Kanger Subtank and VV/VW device for safer VAPING while at work. I hope he takes my advice. His 18650s just roll around in his pocket all dirty and stuff.... Bat lasts him like an hour or so, switches out for one in his pocket. CRAZY !!! He works on night shift so I see him in the morn when I get there (he stops by my office for a few min each morn) He's thinking about getting a Sig 100 watt. I told him go for it. I think he would be safer. Bat still won't last too long with his style of super sub ohm, but maybe he would be a little safer.
 

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A safety meeting on my job usually lasts about 15 minutes and everybody hates them--especially if your discussing something like 'slip and falls'.
I changed the topic today to battery safety and the meeting went for over an hour.
My crew Iam happy to report are way more knowledgeable than me. Of course they are used to jump starting big logging machinery some of which have 24 and 30 volt systems. It seems everyone except me has seen very big batteries vent, burn and even explode.
I guess the double AA and Triple AAA batts I use for some things aren't too much of a problem but the Lithium 18650's and such are a completely different matter.
Anyway it was a pretty good meeting and I got 4 of us on the crew now who are into vaping and a few more thinkin about it.
 

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A safety meeting on my job usually lasts about 15 minutes and everybody hates them--especially if your discussing something like 'slip and falls'.
I changed the topic today to battery safety and the meeting went for over an hour.
My crew Iam happy to report are way more knowledgeable than me. Of course they are used to jump starting big logging machinery some of which have 24 and 30 volt systems. It seems everyone except me has seen very big batteries vent, burn and even explode.
I guess the double AA and Triple AAA batts I use for some things aren't too much of a problem but the Lithium 18650's and such are a completely different matter.
Anyway it was a pretty good meeting and I got 4 of us on the crew now who are into vaping and a few more thinkin about it.

Amazing job! Sweet! Kudos to you! *applause, applause, applause*
 

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A safety meeting on my job usually lasts about 15 minutes and everybody hates them--especially if your discussing something like 'slip and falls'.
I changed the topic today to battery safety and the meeting went for over an hour.
My crew Iam happy to report are way more knowledgeable than me. Of course they are used to jump starting big logging machinery some of which have 24 and 30 volt systems. It seems everyone except me has seen very big batteries vent, burn and even explode.
I guess the double AA and Triple AAA batts I use for some things aren't too much of a problem but the Lithium 18650's and such are a completely different matter.
Anyway it was a pretty good meeting and I got 4 of us on the crew now who are into vaping and a few more thinkin about it.

Good job!
Educating others makes the world a smarter place to live.

Sometimes we just have to remind people to "look before they leap".

Most people know batteries CAN explode, but some get lazy and forgo the basic safety steps they already know.
Problems arise when we allow these people to dictate how the rest of us live our lives. I personally have no problem teaching someone less knowledgeable, however I have a low tolerance for people who are proud of their ignorance.
 

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What seems like common sense to me is apparently NOT for some.

Common sense to me says that anything which stores energy and has an exposed positive and negative terminal shouldn't me thrown into a situation where said terminals can come in contact with something conductive.

I'm all for battery safety, and I know where vaping is concerned, battery safety can be a confusing subject.....but come on. Isn't this common sense? Or am I being too critical of those who aren't considered "mechanically inclined"?

Fact is, we can't completely idiot proof everything. There will always be that one person who's stupidity challenges all reasonable explanation, no matter how simple you make things.

And unfortunately, those people are the majority of homo sapiens. :facepalm:

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I do so agree with you.

My vape gear is just like tools........they aren't show pieces. Never have been into that. But that doesn't mean they aren't tested, cleaned, and working properly.

The ONLY time I ever had a problem with batteries was from a vendor here who threw 4 "loose" batteries into a padded envelope and mailed them to me, jangling around inside the envelope, with zero protection on the ends. When I wrote that I was unhappy to receive this package, not to mention that it went on an airplane to get to me, the vendor tried to "school" me about how lithium batts weren't all that dangerous like I thought. :facepalm:

@roxynoodle: ONE DAY this company WILL get sued, and I will be on the side of the person who is doing the suing. :)

It did occur to me to report them to their USPS carrier, because they are putting personnel at risk IMHO shipping that way.

Lately I've also had glass bottles shipped to me not in a box but in a thin bubble envelope. 30ml glass bottles.

It's pretty sad when the customers have to teach the people they are buying things from how to ship their products.

Kinda like having to teach the modern idiot kids how to put groceries in a bag. You do NOT put a canteloupe on a loaf of bread or bag of chips, you utter and irretrievable TWIT!

Andria
 
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