So I finally saw it happen...
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Right....if that were really the case then the news wouldn't be rampant with stories of America's biggest street gang tazering elderly people and children.
if Andria's not posting next week, i'm reporting twg to the authorities.
Don't worry, I have no plans to lick any batteries. Like... EVER.
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if Andria's not posting next week, i'm reporting twg to the authorities.
No, you should report Andria to the BLA.
(Battery-Lickers Anonymous)
Well that might not necessarily be the case with local police, but I definitely know that is the case with military police.
My mom is almost 67. I'm not sure if lithium ion batteries even existed when she was in 8th grade. I'm not sure if they existed when I was in 8th grade, lol!
She doesn't vape, btw. She's never smoked.
The batteries we played with when I was in school were those huge, old 6v. And I went on to major in mathematics and minor in physics. My mom married my dad when she was 18, and had me 2 years later. She did not go to college until I was 11. She became an RN, and then a nurse practitioner. Not much of a battery education. And no big need for her to learn about them now.
I don't think she's going to suddenly want to vape. She's rather embarrassed that I won't use a cigalike.
When something is wrong with a car or the house she either calls me or a repair person. I am the only mechanical person in our family for generations.
She doesn't vape, btw. She's never smoked.
The batteries we played with when I was in school were those huge, old 6v. And I went on to major in mathematics and minor in physics. My mom married my dad when she was 18, and had me 2 years later. She did not go to college until I was 11. She became an RN, and then a nurse practitioner. Not much of a battery education. And no big need for her to learn about them now.
I don't think she's going to suddenly want to vape
. She's rather embarrassed that I won't use a cigalike.When something is wrong with a car or the house she either calls me or a repair person. I am the only mechanical person in our family for generations.
Well stated! Kudos!!
I'd even be willing to bet that while most everyone knows the term "short" has something to do with electricity and/or batteries, only a minority of those people know what the term "short" actually means and what the consequences are.
If asked to explain how a short is defined and what it entails, most of them would look at you like I would look at someone quizzing me about opera, poetry, gardening, sewing or dozens of other subjects I'm completely ignorant about. It's just the way people work.
If a person's first real exposure to battery knowledge goes along with them picking up vaping, for example, it is incumbent upon them to learn the basics AND for us with experience and knowledge to impart it in a manner that does NOT assume that battery knowledge is as common as how to properly use a fork or put on a pair of pants.
If asked to explain how a short is defined and what it entails, most of them would look at you like I would look at someone quizzing me about opera, poetry, gardening, sewing or dozens of other subjects I'm completely ignorant about. It's just the way people work.
If a person's first real exposure to battery knowledge goes along with them picking up vaping, for example, it is incumbent upon them to learn the basics AND for us with experience and knowledge to impart it in a manner that does NOT assume that battery knowledge is as common as how to properly use a fork or put on a pair of pants.
Haha im in school to be an electrical tech, and they don't even teach battery safety in DC theory nor will they ever teach it in OSHA. It's common for a cell to vent due to heat or being in poor condition, but the majority of the public isn't going to learn because its almost never taught.
I just looked up the history of the lithium ion battery. Ideas of using lithium were first batted around during the 70s, but using lithium ion specifically was first thought about in 1985. The first commercially available li ion battery became available in 1991.
I was in 8th grade during the 81-82 school year. For my mother, who skipped 4th grade, that would have been 60-61.
I was in 8th grade during the 81-82 school year. For my mother, who skipped 4th grade, that would have been 60-61.
So that's why I don't remember this education everyone's going on about. I graduated high school before the real powerful batteries were commercially available.
I remember as a kid purposely touching both posts of a 9-volt battery to feel the shock.
Here's a guy shorting a car battery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfFViY1-zYw
Guess what, he's holding on to with bare hands, and battery doesn't explode. Sparks and melts the ring he's demonstrating, but no catastrophic boom. Granted, if he left the wrench lay there, over time the battery would go boom. It's not instant.
Here's another neat trick you can do with the lower power batteries people are more apt to be accustomed to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVf2JssdYWg
Again, no instant catastrophic boom.
Here's a fun one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwLHdBTQ7s
Now here's what happens to an 18650 that's been shorted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzEHsJVZhA
Since the majority of people are used to lower powered batteries, I hazard a guess that don't realize the kind of power we're vaping on. Better to educate than to belittle.
Be nice if this was available in 18650-
This Flexible Aluminum Battery Charges in One Minute
This Flexible Aluminum Battery Charges in One Minute
That's the stated reason. The real reason is for lulz
"Where is my Earth-shattering ka-boom?"
/Marvin
9V batteries are the worst, given that they have the poles on the same side, right next to each other. For some unfathomable reason they are used in smoke detectors, so people buy a bunch of them, change the batteries in the smoke detectors, and toss the rest of the batteries in a drawer.
Then a fire starts when something shorts a battery. I don't think that was the point of the smoke detectors. They should be redesigned to use safer batteries.
The flat 4.5V battery has been discontinued for use in new devices, because it was so easy to short (and enter the wrong way). The 9V needs to go too, or at least be sold with a plastic cap on each individual battery.
Or, manufacturers could start supporting 19670 batteries, the protected version of 18650.
Thanks for saying this. Hopefully it should provide a needed respite from posts about "how stooopid people are"
I'll be happy to not see those kinds of posts going forward.
That's my point. On top of it, if you go back and read the link I posted, you'll see it's more likely you get struck by lightning than face real danger with a lithium battery.
What concerns me is that if vaping is increasing the risk a person faces uses a lithium ion battery, than the industry should do all it can to include educational warnings with products, especially ones that don't have built-in safety features. As I've said over and over, I came across that with drone batteries because yes, there are increased risks with those batteries and the application. Any remote control enthusiast can tell you.
As for this whole 8th grade science thing... I'm sure I never learned anything about battery safety, and considering lithium ion batteries weren't in real wide use until 20 years ago, I'm sure there's a lot of people who didn't learn it. Plus making a car battery spark in 8th grade certainly doesn't necessarily translate into my cell phone possibly catching on fire or my mech vaping mod turning into a pipe bomb.
Again, average potential danger: 1 in 10,000,000. If it's much higher when vaping, we should all want to see it addressed.
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