So what else about analogs is addictive?

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dankcincy

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We all know that nicotine is addictive but what else about analogs is addictive? Its not only nicotine, it cant be. Ive been at this for roughly a month and my vaping is not completly replacing my analogs. Close, but not completly.

I went from smoking 3+packs a day to less then a pack a day and vaping. I kinda figured by now that I wouldnt even want an analog but I find myself still smoking. Its like there is something else in analogs that still has a hold on me.
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I can only speak for myself, but once I found the flavour I liked, I haven't looked back. No analog now in 5 weeks, and I haven't wanted one. There are analogs in the house, and I'm not even tempted, and that's after 27 years smoking.

I do accept that there maybe "something" missing from vaping when compared to smoking, but when I think of where I was when smoking, there can only be one choice!
 

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do you have any more info on wta juices also who else sell this kind of juice? never heard of this before

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

Whole Tobacco Alkaloid (WTA) Eliquid will soon be available at Aroma Ejuice
Aroma E-juice is proud to announce the addition of a revolutionary new product to our line-up. We have been researching for almost 2 years to develop a product that will be fulfilling and satisfying for us as well as the E-cigarette community. Today we are confirming the buzz about a variety of e-juice that many have heard about and would like to experience.


The basis for this new E-liquid is called “Whole Tobacco Alkaloids” (also known as WTA). WTA E-liquid contains minor tobacco alkaloids along with nicotine and offers an experience that typical E–juice users have not been able to experience with traditional E-liquid / E-Juice. The traditional process used to extract nicotine from tobacco for current E-juice is rather simplistic in that it extracts the nicotine with very few traces of other tobacco alkaloids. Thus, the current nicotine extraction method fails to include integral non-nicotine tobacco alkaloids, thus leaving behind components that can be satisfying to the Electronic Cigarette user, thus leaving the Electronic Cigarette user dissatisfied with the experience. Some of these users compensate either with higher nicotine levels or chain vaping. Even long time users of Electronic Cigarettes may feel the need to fill the void left by current E-liquids. These users might choose alternatives to fulfill their cravings with analog cigarettes, snus, or other tobacco product while still vaping traditional E-liquids. This is where WTA uniquely shines.


Many users, while being able to substitute vaping traditional E-liquid in place of traditional tobacco products, feel they never get the same experience they got from products such as cigarettes, cigars, pipes and chew and never achieve the satisfaction they used to get. Some users fail to make the transition and fall back to using traditional tobacco products because of this satisfaction gap.


WTA offers the E-cig community a comparable experience of true throat sensation, (not just hit, but more like a kick), the feeling of having just smoked, the calming effect and a high level of satisfaction without resorting to combustible or chewing tobaccos to get that missing satisfaction.

Due to our current suppliers' limited production scale, during the launch and initial roll-out of this unique product, we will only be able to offer a limited supply. Furthermore, due to several factors, production costs are very high. Batch testing, lab fees, processing components all play significant cost roles during this initial stage. Our standards are very high; we don’t use any prepackaged nicotine from overseas and our product is extracted from untreated tobacco grown in the USA. We can truly say this is a USA made product including the nicotine which is a product of this extraction. Due to the limited batch production at this time we estimate unit cost at $15.00 for a 5 ML bottle and $28.00 for a 10 ML bottle. Please note that quantities needed to achieve satisfaction are truly just a percentage of current e-juice consumption.

Each production batch is sent to an independent laboratory to undergo Gas Chromatography analysis to verify the absence of contaminants, heavy metals and toxins. We do foresee the price of WTA decreasing when our supplier is better able to meet our needs and upgrade to a larger production scale.

We will roll out a limited batch, probably the first week of September. Prior to that, we are here to answer your questions.

In summary, WTA provides the missing alkaloids which are not available in current E-liquids. We are not the pioneers of WTA, those accolades go to individuals such as DVap, Kinabaloo, Tceight and others here on ECF who were active in discussing the limitations of current E-liquids. When we started the endeavor of bringing WTA to market as a viable product, we were very fortunate to have DVap to assist us with this development.






Our beta testing by various vapers has produced extremely promising feedback. Below are some testimonials and video from these beta testers;

ECF member CeeGary
“WTA gives a fuller throat sensation, activating sensors in a different part of the throat and very much like dragging on a cig. This doesn't replace that sensation, it mimics it. Then you get that light-headed feeling, like when you haven't had a smoke for a while, or hit your first morning smoke. It's quite powerful. The most amazing thing is; regular vaping doesn’t really satisfy, even if you overnic, you just get sweaty and a little piqued, but not satisfied. After my first 5 hits straight, I had to put the stuff down, I was that good.”

ECF member Bigboom
" F-82 Review ..I got the unflavored version and it is REALLY good. It appeared to be 100% VG and was very thick. Despite the thickness, I had no atty-clogging issues using both a 510 LR and a 901 LR. I drip so the thickness is not a concern for me but I do wonder if you could use it in cartos (oh well....someone else's problem). This juice had a slightly sweet tobacco taste, and at times, a somewhat "woody" flavor. There was a noticeably sweet flavor on the exhale. F82 provided excellent throat hit and excellent vapor production.

This impressed me as a premium juice and the closest comparison I can make is EcoPure Rich, but more flavorful and sweeter. It performed wonderfully. I loved it from the first hit until the all-to-soon-to-come last hit. I vape tobacco flavored juices from Prime Vaping, Backwoods Brew, Want 2 Vape, EcoPure, Vapor Station, and Halo. F82 can hold its own with these fine juices.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

Would I buy this juice? Absolutely. Considering overall performance and flavor, F82 is on my very short list of favorite juices. I hope Jerry is considering offering this in a 50/50 or 60/40 pg/vg blend. I can't help but imagine what the TH would be like with some pg in the mix. Despite my personal preference for such a blend, I would vape this regularly as is...oops...was................................
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Switching to American Spirit cigarettes for when you smoke might help get you off whatever is addictive in your regular brand.

Buying a stronger that you normally vape tobacco flavored ejuice can also help with craving times.

Every cigarette you don't smoke is a win, sometimes it takes a while and sometimes it takes WTAs or snus. Good luck.
 

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It goes without saying the extra chemicals often become addictive. Even some things added for flavor that are natural I think add another addictive element of analogs as well. BT i'm sure has pumped and pumped money into finding out every little addictive thing they can possibly add into cancer sticks. I don't even think nicotine is cracked up to be as addictive as it is with how easily I've gone down in nicotine level. I do remember the harsh withdrawal though that sure then hell didn't have anything to do with nicotine!
 

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We all know that nicotine is addictive but what else about analogs is addictive? Its not only nicotine, it cant be. Ive been at this for roughly a month and my vaping is not completly replacing my analogs. Close, but not completly.

I went from smoking 3+packs a day to less then a pack a day and vaping. I kinda figured by now that I wouldnt even want an analog but I find myself still smoking. Its like there is something else in analogs that still has a hold on me.
Dan Kennedy

I took me almost two months before I completely quit smoking. Don't beat yourself up, baby steps is fine! And I was only smoking a little over half a pack a day. Over three packs a day must be a much harder habit to break! I told myself when I started that I wasn't going to torture myself, that if I wanted a cigarette, I'd have one and not feel guilty about it. OK, I did feel guilty, but as others have said, every analog you DON'T have is a step in the right direction!

I can only speak for myself, but once I found the flavour I liked, I haven't looked back. No analog now in 5 weeks, and I haven't wanted one. There are analogs in the house, and I'm not even tempted, and that's after 27 years smoking.

I do accept that there maybe "something" missing from vaping when compared to smoking, but when I think of where I was when smoking, there can only be one choice!

It was the same for me. I still haven't found my all day vape, but it's so much fun looking for it! And I've got enough juice in the house that I like (even if it's not my personal vaping nirvana) to keep me vaping contentedly while I continue my search. I not only have analogs in the house, my husband is smoking them. I don't want one at all. The last one I had (over two months ago) made me feel nauseous. And it tasted crappy too, LOL.
 

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I had smoked 1-1.5 packs/day for 14 years. Took a carton and a half to work with me on my daughters 16th birthday last month, and plugged in my Riva I had got for christmas the year before. Got home that evening, with the intention of only vaping that evening, and sticking to analogs at work. Took my Riva to work the next day as well, and haven't touched an analog since. That was with 24mg RY4, I don't think a flavored/fruity liquid would've had the same effect on me. I tried an analog 10 days later and couldn't hit it twice without gagging it tasted so dirty. Gave away all I had remaining. So, maybe try a different/stronger flavor...maybe a stronger PV. I bought a Yeti shortly after, and it certainly didn't satisfy quite as much. I'm on an ego-T now and couldn't be happier. Best of luck, stick with it!
 
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