That would be Marion Berry. Chris Rock did a hilarious bit about him a while back. Let me see if I can find it.
Edit: Here it is
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That would be Marion Berry. Chris Rock did a hilarious bit about him a while back. Let me see if I can find it.
Edit: Here it is
It's hard to figure that out. Juul controls 70% of the c-store market in dollar terms. I recently saw some number that indicate the c-store market is about twice the size of the vape-shop and on-line market. I don't have much faith in that estimate because it's really difficult to get accurate numbers from all those thousands of independent vape shops, not to mention the Chinese on-line sellers. But let's assume it's correct. That would mean Juul is about half the overall market in dollar terms. What that doesn't mean is that half of all vapers use Juul.
Juul is just about the most expensive way to vape. A person who goes through just one Juul pod a day will spend between $1500 and $2000 per year on them. A person who DIYs their liquid and uses RBAs can vape for less that $100 a year. A person who buys a 30 ml bottle of vendor juice each week for $15 will still spend less that $800.
This we can conclude that the 50% of the market (in dollar terms) that isn't Juul supports a lot more vapers than the 50% that is Juul. If the average non Juul vaper spends only half as much as the average Juul vaper, the there are twice as many of them..
And then there are people like me who finished stocking up long ago. I'm not on the market's radar at all anymore, despite vaping all day long, every day...
Are you in NY? I work at a shop and my understanding was that we only had until the 4th (ish possibly the 7th?) to remove the flavored liquid from the premises...I didn't hear anything about a month. Unless you're in a different state....I thought you were in NY
I'm in Michigan so the rules could be different. The treatment of private business in NY, regardless of the industry, is sadistic. The shops should be able to suggest actions to their customers who express concern. How about a hand with local state and national representative phone and email. Also an email and/or phone call to the Whitehouse can only be helpful. There are a lot of vapers in the US. They can certainly be as or more politically active than the gun rights folks.
May be what matters in the end is how many citizens have a big enough stake in vaping to take political action when it counts. Right now may be we'll start to get a handle on that, especially if Trump is dumb enough to allow a national flavor ban. Michigan and NY may be bellweathers. I stopped in a shop yesterday. The vape area was crowded. Some people were exasperated, some were angry. When the shelves are empty the fun will start. That will probably come well before the 30 day grace period.
I expect some kind of all-out ban is on its way in Maine, now that the first case of SERIOUS LUNG DISEASE has been reported. I just read an article with the sub-headline "Hard-fought reductions in teen smoking are being lost to the rise of the use of e-cigarettes, which are just as deadly," and that's just one example of the misinformation campaign. A flavor ban has already been proposed here; this news will give its passage a boost and will likely spur more comprehensive legislation.
It's just a matter of time . . .
It's just a matter of time . . .
Keep your Chin Up Zazie.
The wind is starting to come out of the e-Cigarette Hysteria Boat Sails. So Hopefully Maine can weather this Storm.
Love our posts, though I didn't understand this one at all -
Three points -
Trump was pushing for cross state insurance coverage too, thinking the competition might lower costs.
I am an independent contractor, I use Obamacare, it's 30,000$ a year for 2 people, paid out of pocket, no tax payer donation (you have to be really not well enough to get any tax benefit). It's an exchange, and one day if you are sick and don't work for an employer, but work for yourself, you can find bidders for a plan that is still not cheap, but won't leave you bankrupt. Too many people know nothing about Obamacare but hate it because they heard some vague story. Yes it changed health care but since when is change bad? If hospitals start turning people with no insurance away entirely (go die!, too bad) that might cement the issue.
As for McCain, yea, well if serving your country under the most terrifying circumstances, while your plane is shot down serving your country, breaking both legs and an arm when ejecting is offensive, because that is what an ejection is, brutal, I don't know what to say. Landing in a body of water next with broken legs, almost drowning too, getting captured, unlike Rambo on TV and then refusing to leave the POW camp until your brothers are released too, while being tortured for 2 more years, is somehow offensive now to american patriots, but staying at home to take care of your feet that hurt is smarter... The new republican party does indeed leave me reeling.
I felt that way about John McCain until the day he died. I'm sorry, but he was one of my state legislators for a LONG time. When the husband voted for him for president, like, it was ALMOST divorce time. It was what he wanted to do to the insurance companies, such as allow them to cross state lines and they would all have ended up in Delaware, home of the businesses who want no regulation or taxes, and we all would have died. "Increased choice, my McAss!" The only choices we would have had would be like, what we could self diagnose ourselves with and what drugs we could get from off shore pharmacies. And his running mate
thank God for her she may have made a difference.
I am NO FAN of Obamacare but like, McCain was even weirder. At least Obama did not send all the insurance to Delaware. Hell maybe but not Delaware.
Here is why you don't elect POWs. NO OFFENSE TO POWs. First of all, the guy got captured. I think he may have been the only one of his squadron who was, I can't remember. Either because they all died, or they were all smart enough not to get captured.
Also, living for that length of time as a POW, well, it's not good for the psyche. John McCain like was always making statements of the most bizarre SORT and I was like, "That's the untreated like PTSD talking."
I realize it's a requirement to be insane in politics, but like, some people just take it TOO far and McCain was on of them. So was that freaking DC mayor forget his name it was so long ago the crack head who was like, mayoring from JAIL for the longest time.
I SIMPLY do not GET THAT like how people are REMOTELY okay with that. Etc.
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Three points -
Trump was pushing for cross state insurance coverage too, thinking the competition might lower costs.
I am an independent contractor, I use Obamacare, it's 30,000$ a year for 2 people, paid out of pocket, no tax payer donation (you have to be really not well enough to get any tax benefit). It's an exchange, and one day if you are sick and don't work for an employer, but work for yourself, you can find bidders for a plan that is still not cheap, but won't leave you bankrupt. Too many people know nothing about Obamacare but hate it because they heard some vague story. Yes it changed health care but since when is change bad? If hospitals start turning people with no insurance away entirely (go die!, too bad) that might cement the issue.
As for McCain, yea, well if serving your country under the most terrifying circumstances, while your plane is shot down serving your country, breaking both legs and an arm when ejecting is offensive, because that is what an ejection is, brutal, I don't know what to say. Landing in a body of water next with broken legs, almost drowning too, getting captured, unlike Rambo on TV and then refusing to leave the POW camp until your brothers are released too, while being tortured for 2 more years, is somehow offensive now to american patriots, but staying at home to take care of your feet that hurt is smarter... The new republican party does indeed leave me reeling.
We can't go down without one hell of a fight though. Some other big manufacturers are donating to the cause though. Keep your eyes on Twitter also watching Live Streams on youtube as well for all the latest info and join CASAA.
I'm just getting into twitter in the last few days even though my account was created in 2009. Who do you recommend I follow?
I think it would be prudent for states to wait and see what happens in Michigan and NY. My sense of Michigan vapers is they are become scared and angry and that will only increase. The moment may have come for orgainizing and demonstrating.
I would suggest you start with
@Mike_Vapes @SuckMyMod @gopaulblair @vapnFagan @GrimmGreen @vapingreek @pbusardo @whycherrywhy @South_Vape_ad @Georgia94890499
Take it from there and don't forget to retweet good tweets
Forgot to mention:
YouTube: Matt SMM, Mike Vapes, VapnFagan, Grimm Green they all have good stuff up
unitedvapersalliance.org/ the site will be back up again later this week they had a bandwidth issue which is being corrected at the moment
YouTube: Matt SMM, Mike Vapes, VapnFagan, Grimm Green they all have good stuff up
unitedvapersalliance.org/ the site will be back up again later this week they had a bandwidth issue which is being corrected at the moment
Thanks for the tweet links.
The press is missing a story by not reporting from vape shops and interviewing customers stocking up.
The press is missing a story by not reporting from vape shops and interviewing customers stocking up.
Yeah, that's what I'm worried of. I never tried kratom and I probably won't get a chance to try it but who knows.
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When they originally tried to ban it some years ago, the backlash was so fierce they walked it back. A few states have done it. I know they'll keep trying, because it's helping people get off of opiates (kind of like vaping helps people get off of tobacco - $$$).
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$30,000!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!! That is nearly double my mortgage on a new 2500 sq ft 2 story first owner home (bought in 2008). There is no way I could ever afford that. Well I could afford it if I lived under a bridge in a cardboard box. "Affordable Care" my ...
Part of me questions if you live in the US at all. I have never seen anyone in the US put the $ after the digits. It's $30,000 not 30,000$. I am not saying you don't live here, just that writing it like that is indicative of someone from another country.
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