So why is it?.....
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Not racism, protectionism. That's why in every other state in the country, the majority of cars you see on the road are Toyotas and Hondas, and yet if you travel to Michigan, the majority are Ford, Chrysler and GM.
Then why does Steam Engine say to build at this resistance?
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just some high profile people, basketball player and some rapper, then just some strange random no-names doing awkward things. Point was that anything could happen at my local Wal-Mart lol, they seem to pop up everywhere and this one is basically sandwiched between the upper class homes and the ghettos.
I did see a lemur at mine once, that was about the strangest though.
Heck, I might have seen some high profile people and just not known who they were.
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resistance range for max power 150W 0.1-0.482
median resistance 0.213
sweet spot 0.347
thats what its saying for me. and that website is basically just telling you what you need to take advantage of the devices power. It isn't reccommending it, its telling you that that is the 'safe range' for that device which the power/volts can handle without basically blowing up, beyond that and you're pushing the limits of the device. All median resistance says is that its 'safest' at 0.213. It's just telling you if you want to actually USE the 150 watts of power and get what you paid for, it is 'safe' for the device to do it at 0.213 because thats what the device can handle (your lungs though, 0.213 at 150W tell me how it goes
), its not telling you to build at 0.213
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I get that but everything in that power range is too low according to a couple of these people. Whether it's .213, .347 or even .482
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technically that is what the site is telling you, 0.213 is on a slippery slope even for a 150watt mod, and not everyone is using 150watt mods... so that says alot, and gives logical reason to the people who are saying these things.
search up your dna40 device on there for me.
resistance range 0.16-2
0.563 median
1.28 sweet spot
what did you say you were running on it? 0.12?
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I don't cry racism, I cry liar.
Show me anyone who says they try not to buy things made in China and I'll bet money that at least 40% of the items in their home are made in China or include parts that were made in China. In fact I'll bet money that they have more Chinese made things in their home than 100% American made or 100% European made.
They like to SAY they try not to buy things made in China, but that's a claim they only apply selectively when it's convenient for them at the moment. Usually in an effort to look cool. Sort of like saying they don't buy things made in China when talking about vaping gear, but they are happy to drive a car with Chinese made parts in it, watch TV with Chinese made parts, carry a cellphone with Chinese made parts, use a laptop with Chinese made parts, and post here on a computer with Chinese made parts in it. In fact I would even bet that their "American made" ecig mod uses a board with Chinese made chips inside or supports an "American Made" ecig company that simply rebrands their Chinese made ego batteries and puts an 808 thread on it to be "different".
some USA companies even just get their stuff made in china because of cheap labor/parts, import it and say its made in USA, even though it was just designed here, but made in china.
Nickel wire is technically no resistance wire, so the measured resistance is going to be super low. The nickel coil on my Freakshow Mini registers at 0.108. The DNA40 chips recommends a minimum resistance for nickel to be 0.1 while 0.16 for Kanthal. The SX Mini M class has a minimum resistance for nickel wire to be 0.05 ohms and 0.15 for Kanthal.
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And the resistance of my ni200 build is what it reads at when cold. The resistance raises as the wire heats up. And even if I was below .1 which I'm not. The mod just won't fire.
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And the resistance of my ni200 build is what it reads at when cold. The resistance raises as the wire heats up. And even if I was below .1 which I'm not. The mod just won't fire.
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I know how resistors work, the subject that I was bringing up was due to safety because he brought up the steam-engine website. the website doesn't discriminate between type of wires, as the amps/power/volts are still the same int he circuit due to the resistance, regardless of material. It is giving you a 'safe' area for resistance based on the parameters of the mod being used and it's not adding up. Whether I'm correct or not, which if I am (which the site he used to justify his own reasoning says I am), what he is doing is the dangerous 'grey area' which nullifies his arguement, or if I am wrong, then the website he is using to justify his reasoning is wrong, which nullifies his arguement as well.
The point was to justify the reasoning of 'the other people' asking why people need 150watts and build super sub-ohm because it is not safe, and the justifications people use make no sense. They teeter right ont he line between the grey area and safe area, and try to justify it.
The super-subohm crowd exists, and not every one of them uses 150w mods or nickelwire in temp controlled devices, which is the reason the opposing crowd exists (the so called 'cloudbashing biker gang', mostly due to the fact that they are concerned for the safety of others or scared of the repercussions that will have an effect on them if something goes wrong with the other crowd. They exist for a reason as someone else has said previously, people dont just pop up and bash on others just to bash them as people might believe.
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Which is ironic because the majority of Hondas and toyotas sold
In the US are made right here in the US by US auto workers.
Misguided patriotism.
Blind loyalty isn't loyalty. Blind patriotism isn't patriotism.
How is it not safe if it's within the parameters? And while I did use the site, I accurately used the site debunking the belief that gets so many likes here that all our regulated builds should be 1 ohm or higher according to the rules that were apparently set in stone back in 2013.
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i dont understand where you keep getting this, 'rules set in stone back in 2013' thing, even if you just look at this forum, the majority of users and product out there today use or even favor subohm builds (meaning <1.0ohms). it is a minority that like to vape at 1ohm+ instead, and even a smaller minority that 'bash' others that vape anything below 1ohm. The majority dont care to even reply to threads like these. The forum has tons of members but in any given thread, there are only a handful of people who reply.
It just seems like you are arguing your point against a few individuals, then just plaster the sticker on the mass majority. Not all these cloud chasing threads bash on people like you think, but they have been turning into that way because you keep bringing up arguements that doesn't just attack a sole individuals opinion/post, but clump everyone together into a group attacking others who havent even took part in the discussion yet. I mean I honestly just see you in these types of thread agressively defending yourself or 'others', but I really dont see any others defending themselves so they either dont need defending/dont exist/ or dont care. The real cloud chasing bashers just put in their insulting two cents and leave if you ignore them, and it really is just a minority.
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Why? Because I'm not the only person who says this. I get around to a lot of places and the general opinion of EFC these days is very negative.
Sure. It might be a minority but it's a very vocal minority who trolls many of these threads. I've heard the 2013 comment be made by five different former users who found the site to be an unpleasant experience. So even if it is a minority, it's a large enough minority to push a lot of people away.
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So why am I defending others? So perhaps the new users will stick around and not go on that other site and post their ECF opinion and experience in their mud pit section.
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tbh i didnt really care about your opinion in the first place because it wouldnt change mine, until you brought up the whole 'you people' deal clumping me in with your 'anti cloud bashing trolls'. Out of this whole thread I can honestly only count 1 troll tbh (not you). The rest were really just opinions or counter arguements. All I really see is the lack of acceptance in others opinions, and the need to argue/discuss on the side against them. You might change peoples minds, you can express your own opinions, but what's the point of clumping everyone together and 'counter-bashing' people who arent even bashing you in the first place?
which sort of comes back to the first post, people share their opinions replying to threads, but some pinpoint and target that 1 persons reply that bashes/condescends the OP, they dont see the other 10 replies that were on topic and help the user, and chose to complain and defend themselves against that sole individual who bashed them, which creates attention and brings in more people to defend themselves, making it look like a cluster pit of people arguing against nothing, when it all just started with 1 guy.
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I wasn't trying to clump you up with them. Only that you were trying to prove me wrong with face palms which is why I said what I said. It's like no matter what I say, there's always somebody trying to discredit it.
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