Thanks!! I just re-read my ? Silly auto correct. I meant non tech sort. Not truck! Haha. Another reminder to edit PRE posting.That just means that it will take larger batteries than the 18650's, but will be designed so it can use both.
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Thanks!! I just re-read my ? Silly auto correct. I meant non tech sort. Not truck! Haha. Another reminder to edit PRE posting.
I was kind of wondering what trucks had to do with anything. LOL
KAS
Since I still prefer mechanical over regulated, I guess I would say my dream REO would be a Grand that takes a 26650 battery and holds 15 ml of juice.
I hear you, brother. The 20/1700 bats would be a huge step in this direction, too.
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Needless to say I'm elated at this news, Eric! Seems like a way to reach a bigger audience - pull in some new blood, so to speak - and perhaps turn some people onto regulated when they otherwise may not have ever given it a shot. Chips have come so, so far. We should be getting 10 years+ on these DNA boards. If they're made easily interchangeable - then by god, they'll be a huge hit. The chips themselves aren't overly expensive, so back-ups would be a dream come true in that regard.
I'm highly supportive of this and greatly look forward to seeing what you come up with you'll make me a daily user of REOs again, that's for sure my man.
I'm highly supportive of this and greatly look forward to seeing what you come up with
you'll make me a daily user of REOs again, that's for sure my man.Maybe ask @PapawBrett ?
(couldn't find a smiley )I was kind of wondering what trucks had to do with anything. LOL
KAS
I don't know if this would be possible or not, but I just recently got a Non squonker that is the Squid industries Double barrel, it has the smallest board and screen that I have ever seen. If a collaboration would be possible between you and squid to produce this would be cool. It is a no frills chip, no TC and Watts only dual 18650, that is just slightly taller than the P67. I thought I would just mention this. A REO with one of these boards would be nice.
KAS
Edit : I wanted to mention this because of the small board size, and I saw a video where the founder said a Squonker was a possibility.
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I see where you’re coming from but I feel if reos does a regulated it has to be top of the line or the new vapers will be like “it can’t do tc, or I can’t customize” etc. why buy it? Ya know what I mean? I mean no offense by the way. Love all my fellow reonauts.I don't know if this would be possible or not, but I just recently got a Non squonker that is the Squid industries Double barrel, it has the smallest board and screen that I have ever seen. If a collaboration would be possible between you and squid to produce this would be cool. It is a no frills chip, no TC and Watts only dual 18650, that is just slightly taller than the P67. I thought I would just mention this. A REO with one of these boards would be nice.
KAS
Edit : I wanted to mention this because of the small board size, and I saw a video where the founder said a Squonker was a possibility.
Good point, I did not think about that. I have never messed with TC, I am not sure I ever will. I just like how basic this thing is, no bells and whistles, adjusts with a Potentiometer. A small basic devise that seems like it could serve the purpose in a REO. Its okay I will get what ever is produced, I just wanted to throw this out there.
KAS
I’m with you Kas, I don’t use any of the fancy settings either; I’m happy with mechs. But I read a lot of posts on fb groups and I think the more features a chip has the more it appeals to today’s vape crowd.Good point, I did not think about that. I have never messed with TC, I am not sure I ever will. I just like how basic this thing is, no bells and whistles, adjusts with a Potentiometer. A small basic devise that seems like it could serve the purpose in a REO. Its okay I will get what ever is produced, I just wanted to throw this out there.
KAS
Interesting. I love that this discussion is even happening. On the way home from work today, I was looking forward to checking in on our Forum! Much like I did a while back when things were busy here.I don't know if this would be possible or not, but I just recently got a Non squonker that is the Squid industries Double barrel, it has the smallest board and screen that I have ever seen. If a collaboration would be possible between you and squid to produce this would be cool. It is a no frills chip, no TC and Watts only dual 18650, that is just slightly taller than the P67. I thought I would just mention this. A REO with one of these boards would be nice.
KAS
Edit : I wanted to mention this because of the small board size, and I saw a video where the founder said a Squonker was a possibility.
I looked at the Squid just now. Really interesting founder and how his process. I was hoping to see that they were US made but didn’t see it on the web-site. One of the driving forces for me shopping at Reos was that they are made in the U.S. I also understand that it may be difficult to find a chip made here I’m guessing..... (I’m not a “USA” is #1 kind of being, just prefer knowing adults making my stuff whenever possible).
Let’s keep this conversation going. Great ideas!
I posted this in a different thread yesterday thinking it was this thread I was posting in so I'll caopy it here...
I know this probably isn't going to be a popular post so don't hang me from the tree just yet!!
Certainly a DNA REO has been done and does exist. I have seen it done from a VV Grand and a standard grand, both done by the same person, and his words were it was a P.I.A. to do and he would never do it again. Very close quarters and thinner walls after it was completed and that was with the smaller DNA40 boards so I would doubt it could be done with the existing devices and the newer DNA boards that are available today. They are all bigger than the DNA40's of yrs past...
I will also add that for as many people that say they would buy a DNA REO, the 2 that I mentioned in the previous paragraph have shown up a few times in the classifieds here on ECF and have sat stagnant for at least a week+ at a time before they finally sold. This would lead me to believe that a DNA REO isn't something that "most" folks would want and should seriously be very well thought out by @Eric Parlin for future sale. Every time this topic is approached the same 10-15 people throw their name in the hat as to wanting one. It certainly will take more than 10-15 for Eric to get his money back on an endeavor like that...
I remember quite a few that said that if Rob did a larger Woolvil run back in 2015 they would want one but when it came to actually buying them when they were ready quite a few of them just sat until he finally marked them down enough they finally sold... It was either the button placement, finish, color choice, or mostly price was too much for most and they backed out. The price point for a DNA REO almost kills it off before its even made because of the price point that they are being sold for out there right now... I would almost bet that the way the 2015 Woodvils sold was the major reason that Rob never attempted a DNA REO run. Doing a DNA REO run would take a pretty good chunk of capitol to get off the ground and running.
I know this probably isn't going to be a popular post so don't hang me from the tree just yet!!
Certainly a DNA REO has been done and does exist. I have seen it done from a VV Grand and a standard grand, both done by the same person, and his words were it was a P.I.A. to do and he would never do it again. Very close quarters and thinner walls after it was completed and that was with the smaller DNA40 boards so I would doubt it could be done with the existing devices and the newer DNA boards that are available today. They are all bigger than the DNA40's of yrs past...
I will also add that for as many people that say they would buy a DNA REO, the 2 that I mentioned in the previous paragraph have shown up a few times in the classifieds here on ECF and have sat stagnant for at least a week+ at a time before they finally sold. This would lead me to believe that a DNA REO isn't something that "most" folks would want and should seriously be very well thought out by @Eric Parlin for future sale. Every time this topic is approached the same 10-15 people throw their name in the hat as to wanting one. It certainly will take more than 10-15 for Eric to get his money back on an endeavor like that...
I remember quite a few that said that if Rob did a larger Woolvil run back in 2015 they would want one but when it came to actually buying them when they were ready quite a few of them just sat until he finally marked them down enough they finally sold... It was either the button placement, finish, color choice, or mostly price was too much for most and they backed out. The price point for a DNA REO almost kills it off before its even made because of the price point that they are being sold for out there right now... I would almost bet that the way the 2015 Woodvils sold was the major reason that Rob never attempted a DNA REO run. Doing a DNA REO run would take a pretty good chunk of capitol to get off the ground and running.
I searched his site for that statement as well, there could be more info about the company on Fakebook, but I will never know. The made in the USA thing, plus a limited warranty, and customer service, are issues I have with them. Recently I read some posts that do indicate, that they are providing customer service, mostly threw Fakebook. I think that this is a fairly new company, and some of this stuff may be addressed later. I know that the chip is not in any other devise, (there is a word for it, which i can't think of) so I would be guessing as to where the chip is made.
KAS
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The DNA chips, I am almost positive are made in the USA. The devise I am talking about does not have a DNA chip, the only thing I don't like about the DNA boards, are they seem to keep making them larger and larger.
KAS
Re the chipset, my sense is that a regulated squonker would need to have the broadest appeal possible to grow the brand and market share. That would include deducing purchase friction, and part of that friction will be with respect to chip manufacturer trust. Why did the REO vv not explode? The chip was flakey and so there was market trepidation (and a skeptical vendor in Rob).
The DNA boards have gravitas in the market, like a hemi engine in a truck or car.
As for the "USA made" bit, I'll stay mum. It works for some things, not for others. Moot point in this case (unless Eric has plans to move to Rejkjavik). What I think you're really saying is "not cheaply made, stellar support", which I agree is paramount... and already built into the first principles of REOdom.
The DNA boards have gravitas in the market, like a hemi engine in a truck or car.
As for the "USA made" bit, I'll stay mum
. It works for some things, not for others. Moot point in this case (unless Eric has plans to move to Rejkjavik). What I think you're really saying is "not cheaply made, stellar support", which I agree is paramount... and already built into the first principles of REOdom.
I remember seeing those DNA 40 Reos and no offence to the modder, they were not very well done, certainly better than anything I could have come up with though. Nothing against modding an existing Reo if ya got a spare and some free time, but one that is designed around a board would be much more "finished", also the DNA boards that are out now are waterproof which (I think) is essential for squonkers. Plus, it might be beneficial that the board is longer than before, that would possibly force the issue for larger batteries (20700, li-po, etc.). I am sure that with all the regulated squonkers hitting the scene, Eric can find a way to make it work. If other companies can find ways to make regulated squonkers reasonably priced, I don't see why the same cant be done for Reos.I posted this in a different thread yesterday thinking it was this thread I was posting in so I'll caopy it here...
I know this probably isn't going to be a popular post so don't hang me from the tree just yet!!
Certainly a DNA REO has been done and does exist. I have seen it done from a VV Grand and a standard grand, both done by the same person, and his words were it was a P.I.A. to do and he would never do it again. Very close quarters and thinner walls after it was completed and that was with the smaller DNA40 boards so I would doubt it could be done with the existing devices and the newer DNA boards that are available today. They are all bigger than the DNA40's of yrs past...
I will also add that for as many people that say they would buy a DNA REO, the 2 that I mentioned in the previous paragraph have shown up a few times in the classifieds here on ECF and have sat stagnant for at least a week+ at a time before they finally sold. This would lead me to believe that a DNA REO isn't something that "most" folks would want and should seriously be very well thought out by @Eric Parlin for future sale. Every time this topic is approached the same 10-15 people throw their name in the hat as to wanting one. It certainly will take more than 10-15 for Eric to get his money back on an endeavor like that...
I remember quite a few that said that if Rob did a larger Woolvil run back in 2015 they would want one but when it came to actually buying them when they were ready quite a few of them just sat until he finally marked them down enough they finally sold... It was either the button placement, finish, color choice, or mostly price was too much for most and they backed out. The price point for a DNA REO almost kills it off before its even made because of the price point that they are being sold for out there right now... I would almost bet that the way the 2015 Woodvils sold was the major reason that Rob never attempted a DNA REO run. Doing a DNA REO run would take a pretty good chunk of capitol to get off the ground and running.
I posted this in a different thread yesterday thinking it was this thread I was posting in so I'll caopy it here...
I know this probably isn't going to be a popular post so don't hang me from the tree just yet!!
Certainly a DNA REO has been done and does exist. I have seen it done from a VV Grand and a standard grand, both done by the same person, and his words were it was a P.I.A. to do and he would never do it again. Very close quarters and thinner walls after it was completed and that was with the smaller DNA40 boards so I would doubt it could be done with the existing devices and the newer DNA boards that are available today. They are all bigger than the DNA40's of yrs past...
I will also add that for as many people that say they would buy a DNA REO, the 2 that I mentioned in the previous paragraph have shown up a few times in the classifieds here on ECF and have sat stagnant for at least a week+ at a time before they finally sold. This would lead me to believe that a DNA REO isn't something that "most" folks would want and should seriously be very well thought out by @Eric Parlin for future sale. Every time this topic is approached the same 10-15 people throw their name in the hat as to wanting one. It certainly will take more than 10-15 for Eric to get his money back on an endeavor like that...
I remember quite a few that said that if Rob did a larger Woolvil run back in 2015 they would want one but when it came to actually buying them when they were ready quite a few of them just sat until he finally marked them down enough they finally sold... It was either the button placement, finish, color choice, or mostly price was too much for most and they backed out. The price point for a DNA REO almost kills it off before its even made because of the price point that they are being sold for out there right now... I would almost bet that the way the 2015 Woodvils sold was the major reason that Rob never attempted a DNA REO run. Doing a DNA REO run would take a pretty good chunk of capitol to get off the ground and running.
Good points, all (no tree for you today, brother) - see my reply to your other post in the tech issues thread.
The one point I'll add here is with respect to the pricing you mentioned. The few retrofit examples seen were built after purchasing finished REOs. They had Rob's profit margin baked into the price, so the cost of 'parts' for the finished regulated mod was much higher than it would be for Eric. Would a regulated REO cost more than a grand or p67? Most def. As high as buying a REO, a board, retrofitting and then baking in profit on top? Prolly not.
And as for size, my DNA75 squonkers are barely bigger than a p67, hardly noticeable. These boards really aren't big.
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