Someone tell me how/why E-cigarettes are healthier than traditional Cigarettes
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Well, howdy @Opinionated! Haven't seen you around these parts for a while. Glad to see you, and to hear you're doing well!
Good to see you too!
I hope this doesn't insult some folks, but I thought it was a good way to describe things:
A quote about driving a boat without a life jacket and an accident occurs. Big fast ones or small slow ones. In this case smoking versus vape.
Smoking is like jumping from a 10 story building. vaping is like jumping from a 3 story building.
As in you know one will kill you. The other... Maybe, maybe not.
When I started vaping a Fuma some 10 years ago my logic said "you are inhaling flavored water droplets". But I rarely smoked and felt better. They were junk so I went back to smoking after a few months.
Ten years later I picked up vaping again and saw research showed some chemicals were used back then that aren't now. But my brain said "you are inhaling flavored water droplets". Again I smoke less and feel better.
It seems some younger crowd at big tobacco has decided safer smoking keeps addicted customers buying their products longer because they'll live longer. Makes sense. So they are working on heated tobacco products since research shows 7% of vapers stay off cigarettes after a year (in Japan) and 72% stay off using their heated tobacco products.
Time will show how it all shakes out when their high dollar research may convince the FDA to allow them versus the $18 a year R&D budget that companies like Charlies Chalk Dust has. Yet the idea of "safer" is gaining traction.
A quote about driving a boat without a life jacket and an accident occurs. Big fast ones or small slow ones. In this case smoking versus vape.
Smoking is like jumping from a 10 story building. vaping is like jumping from a 3 story building.
As in you know one will kill you. The other... Maybe, maybe not.
When I started vaping a Fuma some 10 years ago my logic said "you are inhaling flavored water droplets". But I rarely smoked and felt better. They were junk so I went back to smoking after a few months.
Ten years later I picked up vaping again and saw research showed some chemicals were used back then that aren't now. But my brain said "you are inhaling flavored water droplets". Again I smoke less and feel better.
It seems some younger crowd at big tobacco has decided safer smoking keeps addicted customers buying their products longer because they'll live longer. Makes sense. So they are working on heated tobacco products since research shows 7% of vapers stay off cigarettes after a year (in Japan) and 72% stay off using their heated tobacco products.
Time will show how it all shakes out when their high dollar research may convince the FDA to allow them versus the $18 a year R&D budget that companies like Charlies Chalk Dust has. Yet the idea of "safer" is gaining traction.
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This is something that I've often heard but it is incorrect. The primary ingredients of eliquid are PG and VG. There's typically very little water.
And although it is commonly called "vapor", that is not accurate. It is actually an "aerosol". I guess "aerosoling" didn't sound as cool as "vaping".
The idea of "droplets" was on the right track.You are inhaling an aerosol of VG, PG, and whatever else is in the liquid... as well as unintended biproducts from heating.
The analogy is thought provoking. Most folks would decline falling off a 3 story building. Haha! One difference is that the result is immediate. Splat. Many of the negative effects of smoking, and potentially vaping, won't happen immediately. It is easier to ignore the consequences when they don't happen immediately. And many of us continued smoking even when we knew it was bad for us. It is difficult to give up.
For me, vaping is something that I use like nicorette gum. I've quit cigarettes and will try to quit vaping. I'm not there yet but I hope to be someday. And if I fall off the wagon, I will pick up a vape rather than a cigarette. But my goal is to quit using entirely. Some others view vaping as a free pass.
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Vaping is safer for one reason and one reason only. that reason is because you are not inhaling something that is burning. Technically anything that is burning emits cancer causing carcinogens. BBQ's do it, cars and trucks do it, fireplaces do it, cigarettes do it, matches do it and anything else you can think of that can burn will do it. But vaping doesn't do it.
Vaping vs the long term affects of alcohol use.....
Vaping vs the long term affects of a poor diet and no exercise.....
Vaping vs the long term affects of tobacco use...
Vaping vs genetics.
Vaping vs city or work place pollution.
Im good to go! Im not concerned about vaping as a health risk for myself the way I vape.
my vape juice is unflavoured VG/nic in VG base/15%DW. I vape at 4.6-6watts and am down to 2.5ml a day this week
I dont eat much in the way of processed foods, I dont drink much alcohol at all and I do medium exercise daily and I dont smoke.
I think the dangers of vaping are way over stated and its easy to be fearful.
Vaping vs the long term affects of a poor diet and no exercise.....
Vaping vs the long term affects of tobacco use...
Vaping vs genetics.
Vaping vs city or work place pollution.
Im good to go! Im not concerned about vaping as a health risk for myself the way I vape.
my vape juice is unflavoured VG/nic in VG base/15%DW. I vape at 4.6-6watts and am down to 2.5ml a day this week
I dont eat much in the way of processed foods, I dont drink much alcohol at all and I do medium exercise daily and I dont smoke.
I think the dangers of vaping are way over stated and its easy to be fearful.
I would add that I expect the quality of that extended life to higher than if I continued smoking.
Absolutely! Plenty of proof posted about those rewards to be had.
If you quit both smoking and vaping, wouldn't that have the same harm reduction and quite possibly more?
Probably, but I don’t care. If stopping vaping comes about naturally fine, but I'm not making that my goal. Maybe 20-30 years ago it might have been...who knows.
All I know is that after 8 years of vaping like a fiend (and not smoking 2 PAD), I can work out for 30 minutes with free weights and then ride 30 minutes on the exercise bike at significant resistance levels and maintain my oxygen levels at 98-99 percent using a fingertip O2 sensor.
I couldn't do that in the latter years of my smoking habit. I got slightly out of breath with exertion. I do my workout 3 to 4 times a week. What makes it really enjoyable is that I have a TV on the wall across from the bike. I watch whatever I choose from Netflix on the PC while riding the bike.
I couldn't do that in the latter years of my smoking habit. I got slightly out of breath with exertion. I do my workout 3 to 4 times a week. What makes it really enjoyable is that I have a TV on the wall across from the bike. I watch whatever I choose from Netflix on the PC while riding the bike.
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I actually think the antibacterial properties in VG and PG are the reason cold and flu bugs no longer get a chance to attack me. Maybe wishful thinking but think it nonetheless.
Of course. Which is why it's not a terrible idea for a younger person who stops smoking with vaping to think about getting off of vaping. But if stopping vaping means relapsing to smoking, it's not a great idea. However, you won't know unless you try.
For many of us here who are much older, and with longer cigarette use history, getting off vaping is a pretty low consideration of what to do today. We're ahead of the game. But a 35 year old? Sure, if you can wean off vaping and not return to cigarettes, the best long term outcome is likely.
And, for me, to avoid some of the unpleasant day-to-day effects of smoking, among them, a sore throat, coughing, heartburn, headaches, burning eyes, an offended nose, and a much more depleted bank account.
I wish I could "Like" this a thousand times. It's one of the best explanations by the medical community I've seen.
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