Speed steeping with time stamps.

[GrimmTech]

Just finished up 4 10ml bottles of juice. Took a picture just freshly made and shaken. Will take a picture in an hour of steeping, and another in two hours to see color changes.





one hour photo





two hours in ultrasonic





Wish I would have picked a flavor I knew had more drastic changes. But Im happy and my vape tomorrow will be good.

 

[GrimmTech]

And what we do while we wait.

 

[VapoPirateRoi]

Just finished up 4 10ml bottles of juice. Took a picture just freshly made and shaken. Will take a picture in an hour of steeping, and another in two hours to see color changes.


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Is that essentially a crock pot er what is that.. what the bottles are steeping in. Thanks.

 

[mainevaper]

I believe its an ultra sonic cleaner, like what a jewler would use.

What kinda beer ya drinking? I'm drinking double bag while I wait for mine to steep, no USC tho, so I got a lotta beer drinking ahead of me

 

[MF DOOM]

Ok, now can steeping be rushed? Isn't there a time component, like a certain additive that only either leaves or gets better with venting and time?What are you trying to accomplish with the cleaner?Since I don't DIY, I ask from a standpoint of whats in yer brew and why.

I am pretty sure though that the alcohol in some formulas needs time and venting, this is why I ask...?
Thanks.

 

[Levitas]

Ok, now can steeping be rushed? Isn't there a time component, like a certain additive that only either leaves or gets better with venting and time?What are you trying to accomplish with the cleaner?Since I don't DIY, I ask from a standpoint of whats in yer brew and why.

I am pretty sure though that the alcohol in some formulas needs time and venting, this is why I ask...?
Thanks.

I think in the cases of these accelerated steeping ideas, the point is to help 'mix' the flavorings quicker, in that, the blend will come together faster with consistent vibrations, (and possibly heat?)

Will it substitute naturally allowing the flavors to meld with one another over time? I cannot say. Does it truly matter to someone like me? Not so much

Just throwing in an opinion, because opinions are fun.

 

[GrimmTech]

Yes, its an ultrasonic cleaner. It doesnt have a heat option, but the water definitely heats up. I change it about every 4 cycles (10 minutes max)

Very fast shaking makes the juice steep at about the rate of 1 week per hour. Pretty amazing

 

[GrimmTech]

Currently drinking Ezra Brooks with coke. This one is pretty heavy on the coke as its my 3rd for the evening lol.

 

[GrimmTech]

For anyone thats a bourbon drinker.. Ezra is $10 a fifth and drinks better and more smoothly than any of the big names (jack, jim, turkey etc) 90 proof.

 

[GrimmTech]

Looks like beer cause I puffed a cloud of vapor on the top of it before taking the picture.

 

[Wondertwin]

Grimmtech, you inspired me to copy you with what I have. I too also believe in the magic that is what I call a steeping bath! I have this dinky crockpot called a "Little Dipper" that's supposed to be like a single serving or gravy heater. It's very gradual heat that took
f-o-r-e-v-e-r to heat up gravy for Thanksgiving, and I almost threw it away! I put the bottles in the cold water, loosened the caps just to be safe, and have been monitoring it because (gulp) 4 of my latest order are in it. So far 17min, and it's barely above lukewarm. Going to unplug it once it gets toasty and remove to see what's left of the labels

 

[GrimmTech]

Looking at what is happening so far Im not sure how these will end up. May not be much change even in traditional steeping. Here is a Vanilla cupcake I steeped for 2 hours a couple of days ago. It came out this color.





Was hoping for some really dramatic changes for picture purposes.

 

[Levitas]

The coloration differences, though can be also attributed to the flavoring itself, will also derive from the nicotine, and the oxidation there of.

On that note, coloration isn't, in my opinion, the best indicator of beneficial steeping. Undoubtedly, taste is

 

[MF DOOM]

Can we touch base on the alcohol and what is needed to remove it? It needs to evap, correct? And isn't that what hinders some flavors some times, the alcohol. I swear on the last vape I was into, I had that little hum of alcohol I kept sensing on the exhale. Like when you still have it in your system the next day after drinking, and can either smell it in the room you slept in, or on your breath.

 

[Levitas]

Can we touch base on the alcohol and what is needed to remove it? It needs to evap, correct? And isn't that what hinders some flavors some times, the alcohol. I swear on the last vape I was into, I had that little hum of alcohol I kept sensing on the exhale.

On that, I guess it goes without saying that taste is purely subjective. In light of this, I enjoy some alcohol based flavorings, very much so, fresh. I guess it all depends on the flavoring, and where it derived from as well.

 

[mainevaper]

Looks like beer cause I puffed a cloud of vapor on the top of it before taking the picture.

Right on! I do like me some bourbon, the wife rarely allows that tho, she calls it a**hole ina glass. Lol

But... I did just add some old #7 to a double ry4 blend I made, and it gives it a nice after taste. A lil kick on the inhale as well. def cuts down in the sweetness of the ry4

 

[GrimmTech]

I can attest that the flavor changes for sure. I havent been DIY for long but I have already become a firm beliver in the ultrasonic. Black Honey Tobacco sucks fresh. Two hours later I have a good sweet smooth vape. Some do not change too much, the Tobacco ones really change a lot.

This is all within my VERY limited experience.

I just happen to have an untrasonic cleaner for my electronic repair hobby business.

 

[MF DOOM]

On that, I guess it goes without saying that taste is purely subjective. In light of this, I enjoy some alcohol based flavorings, very much so, fresh. I guess it all depends on the flavoring, and where it derived from as well.

So true. And it doesn't help that this is a very virgin technology, if you will.

 

[GrimmTech]

On hour progress..




placing on original post as well, will go back to edit

 

[Levitas]

Some do not change too much, the Tobacco ones really change a lot.

I love that Black Honey fresh

A good way to truly test this, would be to work with one, maybe two flavors at a time. Mix a bottle of Test A, the bottle that will go in the cleaner for 'x' amount of time. After said time has passed, mix another bottle of Test B. This bottle will either follow Test A into the 'steep' chamber for a designated time (obviously less time than Test A, but more so than Test C). Test C will be mixed after Test A, and Test B have been given their allotted time in the 'steep' chamber, and it will be the 'Fresh Test'.

Now, have 3 separate batteries (if feasible, if not, then have at least 3 attys/cartos) to taste test each batch separately. It might be easier just to do two Tests, one steeped, one fresh. However, if you were to have the third, for a test to see if the prolonged steeping benefited, or not, I would recommend having the time differences being relatively substantial, as to allow it enough time to truly be a beneficial time difference factor.

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So true. And it doesn't help that this is a very virgin technology, if you will.

I think with situations like ours, being that there are literally hundreds of flavorings to be tested and tried by the public, each flavoring itself would need to be assessed. That is, rather than grouping all of said flavorings into one category, for example, alcohol based flavorings.