Speed up steep time.

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I've seen "seed steeping" mentioned several times now. I know that some people absolutely believe in it because they had it happen and then asked about it. Others poofoo the concept. I know I have not had superior luck with it but that may be because all I have ever really tried it with was a tobacco and those can be trying.
 

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Do a search on seed steeping. There are many threads on it. I've actually noticed it when I filled a half full 3ml clearo with fresh made juice and noticed it steeped over night. This mix usually takes a month to steep. I have about 5 mls of old mix left so I'm going to try mixing the old stuff with 25ml of new mix this weekend.
 
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something must be happening at the molecular level. perhaps its like a puzzle. the residual mix could be showing the new molecules how to blend or attach to other molecules, making the solving of the puzzle much simpler. I'm really curious about what is happening during the steeping of e-liquid. I'm also curious about flavor pairings and how to figure out what blends with what without all the experimentation.
 

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My theory on seed steeping: we're just adding an additional solution so diffusion is happening in multiple directions. We're making our juice multi-task.

Diffusion simply is the movement of molecules from an area of higher concentration to an area of lower concentration. When you have, say, 27ml fluid of 0% flavor (your base) and 3ml fluid of 50% flavor (number is pulled from my rear, but used because flavoring isn't 100% pure flavor particles), there's a fair amount of diffusion that has to take place. It happens in one direction: flavoring diffuses into the base. We shake and heat to increase molecular motion in order to speed that diffusion up.

Seed steeping changes 27ml of 0%, 3ml 50% flavor to something like 24ml 27ml 0% base, 3ml 10% pre-steeped, and 3ml 50% flavoring. Instead of diffusion happening in one direction, it's happening in THREE directions. Flavoring is diffusing into the pre-steeped juice AND the unflavored base, and the pre-steeped juice is also diffusing into the unflavored base. More diffusion = more rapid homeostasis.
 
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Seed steeping changes 27ml of 0%, 3ml 50% flavor to something like 24ml 0%, 3ml 10%, and 3ml 50%. Instead of diffusion happening in one direction, it's happening in THREE directions. Flavoring is diffusing into the pre-steeped juice AND the unflavored base, and the pre-steeped juice is also diffusing into the unflavored base. More diffusion = more rapid homeostasis.

I've herd a lot of theories on this and I'm not sure about the percentages (Kinda sounds like it's lowering the entire flavor %) but I must say yours sounds the most plausable.....Nice job.
 
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We need to get these folks to figure this out!
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I've herd a lot of theories on this and I'm not sure about the percentages (Kinda sounds like it's lowering the entire flavor %) but I must say yours sounds the most plausable.....Nice job.

The numbers in my example are incorrect now that I look at it, but they would result in higher flavoring than 10%.

The example numbers should be 27ml unflavored base, 3ml flavoring (for 10% flavoring), and then 3ml of existing 10% pre-steeped liquid (which would break down to 2.7ml base and .3ml flavoring). The overall percentage of flavoring would still be 10%, 3.3ml flavoring and 29.7ml of base for 33 ml of liquid.

Again, I'm pulling all these numbers out of my hindquarters just for the sake of illustrating the example.
 
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