Spirit Pub Co banns e-cigs

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Shamus101

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Hi all,

For the last few months I have been puffing quite happily in my local, a spirit pub company managed house.

Today however the assistant manager showed me a memo from head office saying that electronic cigarettes were not to be used on the premises.

There were various reasons given but the main ones where that it may lead to people with normal cigs to light up and create problems, and that the company didn't know if the vapour/smoke these devices create were harmful to others.

The memo identified both red and blue led devices.

Was good while it lasted. I'm now out in the cold with the others...

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I always say....it's the smoke (vapor) that scares people. If you were smoking with no (or very little) vapor, nobody would probably even notice....and you wouldn't be going outside now!

Smoke scares people...any kind of smoke, it seems...especially non-smokers. So afraid of what they might be exposed to :yawn:

That is exactly why I always try to be discreet when vaping in public....and at work. People see smoke and all hell breaks loose!

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I'ts not just the company that don't know. I don't know. Do You and if you do know that it's not harmless to others can you prove it ?

Mmmm, have you all ever think in what is exhaled from a nicotine inhaler (nicorette inhalator)? the active substances in the inhalator are: levo-menthol and NICOTINE so, we are using almost the same, just change levo-menthol to your favorite flavor and add to the formula PG, PG has been tested to use by inhalation and there is no prove of danger with it, we are exhaling nicotine too, but also does the inhalator, now: IS THE INHALATOR FORBIDEN ON FREE-SMOKE PLACES?
 

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IS THE INHALATOR FORBIDEN ON FREE-SMOKE PLACES?

If I was sitting at a bar chewing on the end of my penstyle, taking a hit of nic when I wanted to but no smoke was coming out....who would know? Who would even question my chewing on a pen top?

It's generally the smoke that gets people going....not the device itself.

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I'm afraid we'll probably be seeing this happen more often.
It's kind of ironic that smokers of regular cigarettes will be used to extinguish one of the benefits of our hobby. - No second hand smoke.
I can see patrons being told to put out their cigarettes, only to loudly complain, "Why is it okay for him to smoke in here, but I can't?"
Aaaauuugh... another reason why I don't like to leave the house anymore.

OMG!!! I just looked at your Avatar Shamus!
That is so funny!!!! LOL!!!
Made my day!
 
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: IS THE INHALATOR FORBIDEN ON FREE-SMOKE PLACES?

No it is'nt because it's SMOKELESS and it's regulated by the Authorities and sold Nationwide in Chemist's and Advertised on a very big Marketing Campaign on Television which claims that "It" is the alternative to Cigarettes. The Adverts have even dropped the " Stop smoking completely claims." It is advertised exactly as an E-Cig would be advertised if it were Legal.
You can sit in a Pub or your office on a train ,plane, bus, anywhere at all with a Tampon in your mouth. :rolleyes:
 

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No it is'nt because it's SMOKELESS and it's regulated by the Authorities and sold Nationwide in Chemist's and You can sit in a Pub or your office on a train ,plane, bus, anywhere at all with a Tampon in your mouth. :rolleyes:
Nice imagery, Deewal..lol
 

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Actually you can't (sit with a tampon in your mouth in a pub, not sure about trains and offices).

If the publican decides that you are likely to upset other customers, you will be asked to stop or even to leave.

We do not have the right to do anything we like regardless of whether its legal or not... at least not in bars/public houses in the uk.

This is why I took the time to educate the staff and management on what I was using, taking it apart putting it back together, and even using it outdoors when it was busy so as not to cause confusion.

The only reason I'm not allowed is ignorance from head office, and fear of litigation... shame really.
 

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It is far, far more than second-hand vapor anyone is concerned about. The whole reality of metal tubes from China, filled with untested liquid, serving nicotine addicts, sold over the Internet to anyone, is fraught with reasons to reject e-smoking. On another thread, there is even concern for e-waste in landfills!

This comes down to two propositions not everyone accepts: Intent and impression.

The intent is to deliver addictive nicotine. Don't argue about using non-nic liquid. That won't fly. The intent of an e-cig is to deliver nicotine. And government has a right to pass judgment on something like that.

The impression is that we are smoking. Other smokers see an e-smoker and think they, too, can light up their favorite Newport or Marlboro. Wrong. So a pub or bar owner says "I don't need the confusion" and bans e-smoking the same as tobacco smoking.

Intent and impression are two major problems for e-smoking. The world is waiting for creative solutions to resolve both.
 

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Actually you can't (sit with a tampon in your The only reason I'm not allowed is ignorance from head office, and fear of litigation... shame really.

If they are so afraid of litigation then suit them.

It is far, far more than second-hand vapor anyone is concerned about. The whole reality of metal tubes from China, filled with untested liquid, serving nicotine addicts, sold over the Internet to anyone, is fraught with reasons to reject e-smoking. On another thread, there is even concern for e-waste in landfills!

This comes down to two propositions not everyone accepts: Intent and impression.

The intent is to deliver addictive nicotine. Don't argue about using non-nic liquid. That won't fly. The intent of an e-cig is to deliver nicotine. And government has a right to pass judgment on something like that.

The impression is that we are smoking. Other smokers see an e-smoker and think they, too, can light up their favorite Newport or Marlboro. Wrong. So a pub or bar owner says "I don't need the confusion" and bans e-smoking the same as tobacco smoking.

Intent and impression are two major problems for e-smoking. The world is waiting for creative solutions to resolve both.

The argumentation of metallic tubes from china is just not valid at any level, regulation is the important part, if that metallic tube is regulated there is no problem, even if the metallic tube is for serve nicotine addicts or you can take a look at this plastic tube filled with gel nicotine serving nicotine addicts: Smoke-Break® currently undergoing FDA-allowed clinical studies and with a 71.1% of succcess rates for keep people off analogues.

As for the 0% nic liquid, is something to take in count we like it or not, because everytime more people are getting to the point of use ONLY 0% nic, I don't think the 0% nic will work for everyone but if it works for a percent of e-smokers then is something to take on count.

If Smoke-Break is traying to get a FDA approval for their plastic tube filled with flavored gel nicotine for INGESTION by nicotine addicts, why not JC do just the same? is it the fear to get banned? come on people, we all know that if this things got banned a lot of people will keep using them anyway (just like Australians and Mexicans do), so, what is the BIG deal with trying to get things right? I don't see BIG pharma or BIG tobacco trying to kill Smoke-Break, the e-cigarette's manufacturers haven't taken the next step just because NOBODY is pressing on them to do it, not the authorities, not the consumers, so they can do whatever they want, when someone push on them they gonna do everything on their hands to get regulated and keep their revenue, you can add to the BIG list the e-cigarette's manufacturers, they are not our friends either, they want our money, nothing more, if they were our friends they will be concerned about get regulated just like Smoke-Break is doing.
 

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In a house.
Actually you can't (sit with a tampon in your mouth in a pub, not sure about trains and offices).

The Television Advert shows a guy sitting at an office desk while his mates are about to go outside with their Cigs on a break and he has a Nicorette Inhalator (which looks like a Tampon, i did'nt mean it literally) in his mouth.
I'm sure Nicorette have done their homework on the Legality of this.
Their selling them in Tesco's ffs.
Watch out for the Advert. It's on most Sky Channels.
 
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