stacking 18650s in the Provari?

[SpettroJoe]

Can i buy like 50 extension rings for my provari and stack like 8 18650's???

hehe no im not but had a kid at the vape shop today when i stopped by asking if we thought he could put more extensions in a mod and stack two of them.....OMG where do these kids think this stuff up. I wanted to take his mod away and make him write an essay on battery safety before he could get it back. I then spent the rest of my time there just talking to him about battery safety and showing him bad's blogs on my phone for him to read.

Sometimes young people scare the crap out of me.

 

[glassgal]

I couldn't believe you were serious when I first read this... omg... but then, you DO stack batteries in a flashlight and other things, so maybe you could? Just because so many warn against it, I wouldn't try it!!! I'm just curious what the difference is tho.

 

[serenity21899]

Can i buy like 50 extension rings for my provari and stack like 8 18650's???

hehe no im not but had a kid at the vape shop today when i stopped by asking if we thought he could put more extensions in a mod and stack two of them.....OMG where do these kids think this stuff up. I wanted to take his mod away and make him write an essay on battery safety before he could get it back. I then spent the rest of my time there just talking to him about battery safety and showing him bad's blogs on my phone for him to read.




Sometimes young people scare the crap out of me.

It doesn't help that when CigTech first got the Tatroe bases, they stacked a bunch of rings together for a display in their store. There were no batteries involved, but still.

 

[SpettroJoe]

ill let Bad answer that as i'm not positive on what it would do with the volts, amps and such. But its something i wouldn't even think of doing

 

[sawlight]

I couldn't believe you were serious when I first read this... omg... but then, you DO stack batteries in a flashlight and other things, so maybe you could? Just because so many warn against it, I wouldn't try it!!! I'm just curious what the difference is tho.

Not if you like your Provari you can't! It will exceed the input voltage of the control board and blow it! It's come up several times in the past. The real difference is you get the higher input voltage and use a "buck circuit" to drop it to the selected voltage, rather than boosting it to the set voltage which has a higher power loss in the circuit.

As for where they come up with it, there's youtube and even a picture around here of a guy that put a bunch of GG tubes together that was like six foot long.

 

[glassgal]

Ahha! Ok, so it's the controller in the Provari that will overload from stacking? That makes total sense! Thanks!!

 

[sawlight]

YUP, and you are welcome!

 

[Ozwald]

ill let Bad answer that as i'm not positive on what it would do with the volts, amps and such. But its something i wouldn't even think of doing

Volts add up when you put them in series. Some larger trucks use 2, 12v batteries for a 24v supply. As for the Provari, I don't know how the circuit board is laid out, but I would put money on you cooking the board.

Edit: Too slow. I was looking for a nice image to show what happens in a series circuit & got side tracked.

 

[sawlight]

Volts add up when you put them in series. Some larger trucks use 2, 12v batteries for a 24v supply. As for the Provari, I don't know how the circuit board is laid out, but I would put money on you cooking the board.

Edit: Too slow. I was looking for a nice image to show what happens in a series circuit & got side tracked.

Actually large trucks use two batteries in parallel, still 12v but it doubles the amperage.

 

[Ozwald]

Actually large trucks use two batteries in parallel, still 12v but it doubles the amperage.

Yes and no, Some large trucks run on a +24vdc system which requires them wired in series. But wiring in parallel does indeed double the amps while leaving the voltage the same.

Edit: Actually I looked it up just to make sure I wasn't going crazy or my memory was failing. Most large trucks run on 24 volt systems. The US seems to be the oddball (go figure). All large Euro trucks, all land-based military vehicles (US included) & some large US trucks run on 24v. And I learned that forklifts run on 48v - which I should have known since my stepdad worked on them for many years. Not that it matters, but as NBC would say, "The more you know."

 

[Glenn_K]

We talked about this in the Vamo forum, and figured it would come out looking something like the following (picture find courtesy of Warhawk-AVG):



-- Glenn

 

[Splatnext]

So where all supposed to look like this?

 

[BulletStopper]

Some military vehicles use 4 batteries, two sets of two serial running parallel to give the increase amps and 24 volts.

I guess you COULD do it in a mech if you wanted to push 20+ watts on your 3 ohm carto.

 

[Ozwald]

Some military vehicles use 4 batteries, two sets of two serial running parallel to give the increase amps and 24 volts.

I guess you COULD do it in a mech if you wanted to push 20+ watts on your 3 ohm carto.

I think you'd have to learn to yodel first though. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure. Alphorn lessons are definitely required though.

 

[EvilZoe]

I'm sure the 18650 has to be a typo and the OP means 18350s....lol

I can't imagine trying to vape from something that long.

 

[Baditude]

ill let Bad answer that as i'm not positive on what it would do with the volts, amps and such. But its something i wouldn't even think of doing

I wish the whole idea of stacking batteries in mods would just go away. I know a select few do it in mechanical mods, and a select few do it in some of the regulated mods that were "designed" to accept them (ie Vamo), but those vapors generally know what they are doing by choosing high quality batteries of exactly the same type & age, mark those batteries as a mated pair, and alternate the order that they are inserted in the mod so that they will each drain equally. They measure the voltage coming off the charger and coming out of the mod religiously. In other words, they know what they are doing and are willing to accept the risks.

It's the novices and the ignorant who don't follow this very strict regimen who run the risk of doing their mods, themselves, and others harm. Even when veteran membership step in to warn and educate these people, we often get ignored by a stubborn noob who won't listen to reason if they don't hear what they want to hear.

They often claim to know their batteries and what they are doing, yet with additional questions it turns out they are using a protected ICR battery and not a high drain battery. Or attempting some weird idea of using flat top batteries with tin foil buttons. Anyone remember that guy?

CAN I USE MAGNETS ON MY FLAT TOP BATTERIES FOR MY PROVARI?

PROVARI STANDARD WITH 2 18350 BATTERIES?

To answer the OP's question, I don't know what would happen if you stacked 2 18650 IMR batteries in a Provari with extensions. It may well be able to read the voltage with its multimeter, but my guess is the protective circuitry would see the increase voltage as an unsafe situation and shut itself down or refuse to fire the atty. At least I would hope it would. The Provari is designed to use only a single cell with a button-top high drain battery, preferably AW's. TECHNICAL - WHY HIGH DRAIN BATTERIES?

 

[Train2]

Somewhere I saw a video or a couple photos (can't recall) of someone IN a vape shop who did that with VAMO parts - just assembled like a 7 foot long VAMO body... It was pretty funny.

 

[Ozwald]

I wish the whole idea of stacking batteries in mods would just go away. I know a select few do it in mechanical mods, and a select few do it in some of the regulated mods that were "designed" to accept them (ie Vamo), but those vapors generally know what they are doing by choosing high quality batteries of exactly the same type & age, mark those batteries as a mated pair, and alternate the order that they are inserted in the mod so that they will each drain equally. They measure the voltage coming off the charger and coming out of the mod religiously. In other words, they know what they are doing and are willing to accept the risks.

It's the novices and the ignorant who don't follow this very strict regimen who run the risk of doing their mods, themselves, and others harm. Even when veteran membership step in to warn and educate these people, we often get ignored by a stubborn noob who won't listen to reason if they don't hear what they want to hear.

They often claim to know their batteries and what they are doing, yet with additional questions it turns out they are using a protected ICR battery and not a high drain battery. Or attempting some weird idea of using flat top batteries with tin foil buttons. Anyone remember that guy?

CAN I USE MAGNETS ON MY FLAT TOP BATTERIES FOR MY PROVARI?

PROVARI STANDARD WITH 2 18350 BATTERIES?

To answer the OP's question, I don't know what would happen if you stacked 2 18650 IMR batteries in a Provari with extensions. It may well be able to read the voltage with its multimeter, but my guess is the protective circuitry would see the increase voltage as an unsafe situation and shut itself down or refuse to fire the atty. At least I would hope it would. The Provari is designed to use only a single cell with button-top high drain batteries, preferably AW's. TECHNICAL - WHY HIGH DRAIN BATTERIES?

Bad, you really need to stop flaming and trolling these very smart people with your logical advice. Didn't you read how smart they were?

 

[Baditude]

Bad, you really need to stop flaming and trolling these very smart people with your logical advice. Didn't you read how smart they were?

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[PLANofMAN]

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