I do it with all new atomizers regardless of whether I can sense the machine oil smell. Who knows what was on the hands of the person who packed it?
Steeping is not something I consider a subject of concern. Some juices change a little with aging; some change a lot. I mix many mixes per session and everything gets 4 weeks min. and more often, 2-3 months is not unusual. It's all about managing what you mix vs what you have left in stock. I believe If a mix is not good or has not approached my minimal taste acceptance (after a few shakes various times through the aging process) the mix is a failure. If the taste is good only after 2-3 weeks and goes down hill, it's not for me. If anyone believes a more rigorous mechanical/thermal intervention hastens and improves your mix, go for it.I wonder really if anyone did make a steeping chart for flavors alone.
I still have much to learn! While I always clean the outside of everything, I guess I assumed the inside would be clean. Hindsight, seems pretty obvious!No... Didn't know I should do that
I have this on my list to write once I master a coffee beverage, if possible Any "donts” to keep in mind or that you learned when making tiramisu?although I have older flavors hanging around (primarily a tiramisu) that was godawful when I mixed it but has mellowed considerably (it's about 2 or 3 months old).
No, no need to look it up but I appreciate the offer! Really just wanted to avoid having that one mix I avoid, lol! I’ll start low and steep long, got it. That helps! I love coffee and, at times, its probably pretty close to my DIY ejuice hobby. I have all the unsweetened flavor syrups and make my own creamers, etc. So I wasn’t planning on doing a DIY coffee juice. However, my sister requested it and I don’t have the heart to tell her what a time I’m having of it. "I know coffee, I’ve got this!" I thought it’d be simple which has taught me another DIY learning experience I swear she picked several of the hardest types without even knowing it! Thats okay though because I’m always up for a challenge and it’ll strengthen my skills Thanks for your input!I used a tiramisu flavor (at some point if you want, I will look it up) but not right now. I can't remember who made it. It just tasted harsh and chemically for a long time. I've heard coffee can require more steeping, and I did add some other flavorings, but it tasted pretty bad for a long time. It also tasted enough like tiramisu that I decided to just let it age more.
I would say, start low on your percentages, and let things steep for... a while. Sorry, I don't have a ton to offer, I like tiramisu and I actually LIKE coffee but drink enough of it that rushing out to buy a bunch of coffee flavors seemed... Unnecessary.
Sort of like a diet pepsi vape Never went after that one, either. I know some folks really like coffee vapes I want to say @Letitia and a couple other folks, but I am not the one to give you coffee advice, unless you are searching out how to drink as much of it as humanly possible and etc. LOL.
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PM me what coffee types she is wanting tonight and what flavors you have.No, no need to look it up but I appreciate the offer! Really just wanted to avoid having that one mix I avoid, lol! I’ll start low and steep long, got it. That helps! I love coffee and, at times, its probably pretty close to my DIY ejuice hobby. I have all the unsweetened flavor syrups and make my own creamers, etc. So I wasn’t planning on doing a DIY coffee juice. However, my sister requested it and I don’t have the heart to tell her what a time I’m having of it. "I know coffee, I’ve got this!" I thought it’d be simple which has taught me another DIY learning experience I swear she picked several of the hardest types without even knowing it! Thats okay though because I’m always up for a challenge and it’ll strengthen my skills Thanks for your input!
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Id like to ask if anyone knows if i make a juice out of one single flavor (any flavor) is there a neccessity to steep it at all? Cause maybe steeping is just for multiple flavors or is for mixing into the rest of the compnents.... no idea.
So there’s another way to compare mixes at different ages. You can simply try them along the way and take notes. This works well for me now. When I was newer to mixing, it helped me to do it the way I described above.
If I’m doing sft (single flavor testing) for a concentrate I know won’t need a long steep, I usually do 3-5ml testers. If it’s one either I’m not sure of or will definitely take longer, I do 6-10ml to have enough to test at different times throughout the steep.
I have my mixing station set up in a way that it would literally take me only 2-4 minutes to mix each tester, etc. I wouldn’t suggest doing this all the time but rather as a learning experience as a new mixer or with a mix you're needing a bit closer inspection of, etc. Though I should add that I’m overly .... with OCD. So I tend to go a bit overboard in some instancesI've done the work to make a few samples come together on the same day at different ages but it's more work than I (and I think most people) are willing to go to in general.
Yes- even single flavor mixes need to steep. They might not need to steep quite as long as more complicated recipes (though for reasons you might not think, I think) but they do need to steep.
I've spent some time thinking about why recipes need to steep at all (it's a bit surprising that they do, or at least it was to me,) and about how steeping changes them. I've come to some conclusions, some I'm fairly sure of, and others a bit speculative. One thing I am fairly sure of is that steeping is, in almost all cases we care about, mostly a matter of physical processes (rather than chemical reactions.) A steeped juice, compared to an un-steeped juice, is a juice with higher entropy.
In other words, a steeped juice is a well-mixed juice. The thing is, for many flavors (and it is why this matters for some so much than for others that I am most interested in and least sure about, though I have some guesses) this requires mixing on a very fine scale. Precisely how fine is another question. Given the means of mixing available to most of us, and the potential to do harm to our juice through more aggressive methods of mixing, we rely on Brownian motion to truly steep them.
Now it might be the case that if your flavors start off well-mixed they taste better even when they are not well-mixed with your medium. I'm skeptical about how strong an effect this has, but not _very_ skeptical. I can think of reasons why this might be the case, but...
It's at least plausible that a single flavor might need less steeping than several together, but if it's a flavor that needs to steep it needs to steep. I'm not just theory-crafting here- try Cap VCV1 (not my favorite, but many people love it) as a standalone at say 6% aged for 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, and 3 months, at once. I think you will find that each has its own character.