I'm at the point where I'm disgusted just thinking about me smoking again. the taste, the smell...gives me chills. someone would have to force me to smoke a cigarette now.
Still can't quit the analogs, very frustrated, thinking of trying patches
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Congrats to your friend!!! Hopefully I will join him in the smoke free ranks...someday!
betty
ok, well what do you want to hear? You aren't happy or your current setup isn't cutting it, You can't afford to buy a new setup so you have what you have. There is nothing we can say that will help if you can't buy new stuff and aren't happy with what you have. did you think there was a magic mod that will turn your ego into a provari?
last time I checked this wasn't a quit smoking forum. Sorry for being harsh but ultimately if you continue to smoke, you just flat out don't want to quit.
Thank you for mentioning the Eroll! I had never seen one before and is definitely worth looking in to. May I ask how much the kits are that you ordered?
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betty
Hi, I don't know if this will help you or not, but I smoked for over 30 years and when I started to vape the idea of quitting wasn't a viable option for me. I tried so many times and failed, that I decided to try a healthy type of cigarette. I got a greensmoke and decided to finish the carton I was on, then switch brands. By this I mean I switched from my regular brand to greensmoke. I used my greensmoke for three days before I realized I had quit smoking. Try thinking of it as switching brands and commit to make the brand switch.
I know it sounds odd, but my honest mistake lead me to quit accidentally and I lived to tell about it. The only other way I think I would have quit accidentally is if I got hit by a car and never woke up.
I know it sounds odd, but my honest mistake lead me to quit accidentally and I lived to tell about it. The only other way I think I would have quit accidentally is if I got hit by a car and never woke up.
The most economical way to buy it is as a kit for 59.00 at litecigusa. You will get two eroll batteries, 3 mini tanks, 2 atomizers, one atomizer cover (cone), a cable and block and the PCC (which is 35.00 by itself but comes out about 16.00 when in the kit) You should also buy an addition cone for two dollars as there's only one in the kit. I know it sounds like quite a bit but its not if you can manage it when considering the price of two ego c's.
Edit: the only place less is rockymountainvapor... two dollars less and comes with two cones. Other than that don't bother searching for a better price as its a Joye product and vendors are forced to sell at their price. The one exception is they can go higher but not lower. Colibri sells their own branded eroll called the emini and the kit is 69.00 for exactly the same thing with emini on it instead of eroll.
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If you are vaping the ego c regulated, its 3.3 volts. If you use it unregulated its 3.7 volts. Most say the eroll hits harder than an ego c even at its 3.7 volts. For me that's good because it would feel more like what I smoked then. Again... think of what you spend on smokes and put it up against the price of the daily feel of smoking using the eroll instead for its price. 60 buck for 6 months or more plus ... about 10 dollars a month at most instead of what you're paying for smokes now... well plus a bit for attys and tanks... an atty lasts about 2 or 3 months if you wash it and tanks are 3 bucks for a box of 5... 60 cents a piece. I think its way more economical than what I use now.
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Nicotine is a stimulant, and some anti-depressants can sort of tap into those same receptors in the brain. So, the patch or lozenge and vaping is too much. Sage advice from the others. If you really needed to try that combo, vape 0mg juice with the other nic systems.
Next, I have confidence that you can let go of the analogs. I was a PAD smoker for just over half my life, and I'm nearing one month analog free and feeling the most confident about this attempt at giving them up. The first few days for me of exclusive vaping were a bit rough with some little flare ups of agitation and whatnot that would trigger that need to go buy a pack. Now, little spots of agitation don't make me automatically think of needing a real cig. I don't even really think about needing to vape.
Finally, it took me about a month of doing analogs and vaping and some experimenting with flavors and nic levels before I finally took the plunge. Keep trying. One thing that really, really helped me was to come on here with my PV near by when I would feel the urges to have an analog. Another thing that helped was window shopping with a PV in had when the analog urge hit. Even if I didn't buy anything, the act of thinking about vaping and not smoking helped to re-channel my thoughts and energies.
Good advice... hit those youtube reviews with PV in hand... the hours without a smoke fly by.
Betty, are you sure nicotine is the only thing that preventing you from quitting? I am not sure. I feel that I like to smoke, and the habit that is preventing me from quitting. Yes, nic is helping but not the #1 reason, for me.
Edit: Thinking about it carefully, it's not the nic for sure. I have been vaping all day long, every min of the day. The nic on my vape is low, but with the way I vape, there is no way I don't have enough nic. I should be consuming a lot more than I when I smoke a pack a day.
Edit: Thinking about it carefully, it's not the nic for sure. I have been vaping all day long, every min of the day. The nic on my vape is low, but with the way I vape, there is no way I don't have enough nic. I should be consuming a lot more than I when I smoke a pack a day.
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Your not quite ready yet. When "that time" comes, vaping will be much more effective. Swedish snus may help in the meentim. Swedish snus is what ultimately got me off the cigarettes. However "today" for me, they compliment each other very well and are successfully keeping me away from cigarettes. Good luck with your journey, and if you need anything...just ask.
Come here and talk it through with us. No judging or superiority allowed.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dicted-smoking-habit-support-chat-thread.html
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ok. Swedish snus I prove 95-99 percent safer then cigs. The Sweeds have the lowest lung cancer rate in the world. Swedish snus is pasteurized unlike american chew, which is fermented. That's what makes it soooooo much safer. It comes in little pouches that you stick under your top lip. No need to spit. The nicotine is absorbed through the gums. It contains the "alkaloids" that eliquid does not. Many of us who have been cigarette smokers are addicted to more then nicotine. ..we are also addicted to the "alkaloids" that is why for many, eliquid seems to be "missing something"rnln:9812700 said:
I was able to quit smokijg, AND vaping with swedish snus. Ive recently gone back to vaping (only when I drink) lol
You can buy it from snuscentral, or the northerner. Prices aren't bad but the shipping is! You can read much more about it in the smokeless tobacco section of this forum. Ive got a stockpile of snus that I could sell for a very reasonable price.
I hope this info helps!
A lot of convenience store and cigar shops here sell General Swedish Snus. I've recently started using it and it does help 
Register on their site and you can print coupons. I got 10 cans for .99 cents a can using their coupons.
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It's slightly salty and the Nordic mint is really strong. But the other flavors aren't too bad
Register on their site and you can print coupons. I got 10 cans for .99 cents a can using their coupons.
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It's slightly salty and the Nordic mint is really strong. But the other flavors aren't too bad
Everyone switches at a different rate and its not just keeping a steady nic level in your blood that is the answer, nor is giving up the psychological addiction very easy
Mixing and matching your delivery of nicotine in that way would not be a very good idea. With the patch - it gives you a constant nic level in your blood, and then when you take nic from elsewhere to satisfy you your nic level zooms up - in the same way it did when you had no constant nicotine in your blood and then smoked an analog to raise the nic level and get satisfied.
When you smoke, you get your 'satisfaction' from hitting your body with a rapid jolt of nicotine when your blood level is lower and thats that good feeling. Sometimes vapors, because they can use the PV in so many places you can'r smoke end up with a more level nicotine blood level, much like wearing a patch, and the craving is for that blood spike of nicotine the body is used to from the smoking habit.
I am not sure what mgs you use of nicotine but you can try using a lower mgs for you regular vaping and then when a urge is huge vape a juice with more mgs. Analyze your analog habit and realize that the times you are not smoking the nic level in your blood drops pretty low, then you smoke and it jumps up. You want to try and give your body the same ups and downs with vaping as you did with analogs.
For all extents and purposes vaping nicotine and smoking its as combustible gives you the same jolt of nicotine in the blood stream. It does not have to slowly leach through your skin like with a patch or get absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth to get to the blood stream. Its one thing to alternate a vape and a smoke because you are controlling your intake. Mixing a patch and a vape (or smoke) when you can't turn the patch off while vaping is just raising your nic level to numbers you never were are before - satisfying yes - not that you need that high a level - but you are wanting that nic 'spike'.
Using a patch will just give you a base level of nicotine that is higher then your normal low blood levels between analogs but won't satisfy the 'need' which is when the body wants the spike. Mixing the two most likely will just get you addicted to a greater mgs of nicotine. You also risk nicotine toxicity especially if you are wearing an 18 or 24 mg patch and smoking or vaping the same amount periodically.
Changing e-juice flavors can help some, analogs really screw with taste buds and some tire out quickly if you keep feeding them the same tastes as they recover or try to from analogs. For some people a great flavor in one session can be flat and unsatisfying the next. For others tobacco flavors helped bridge the gap while for others that tobacco flavor make them want the analogs and they were much happier with non tobacco ones.
Some find that more involved vaping steps - just as dripping for each vape sessions is more satisfying then just picking up the filled tank when they want to vape. SOme people need the mechanical and oral fixation addictions answered too along with the nicotine addition to make a switch.
Its an ongoing discovery of what works for you, and its usually worth trying some of the things that helped others and see if that works for you or not. Everyone is different. Some people take up vaping and leave analogs behind in a matter of hours, while others do both for a long time, building up to more vaping then smoking until all they do is vape. Its a process and don't beat yourself up if you are not following someone else timeline or meeting one you gave yourself at the start before you knew what you faced.
Mixing and matching your delivery of nicotine in that way would not be a very good idea. With the patch - it gives you a constant nic level in your blood, and then when you take nic from elsewhere to satisfy you your nic level zooms up - in the same way it did when you had no constant nicotine in your blood and then smoked an analog to raise the nic level and get satisfied.
When you smoke, you get your 'satisfaction' from hitting your body with a rapid jolt of nicotine when your blood level is lower and thats that good feeling. Sometimes vapors, because they can use the PV in so many places you can'r smoke end up with a more level nicotine blood level, much like wearing a patch, and the craving is for that blood spike of nicotine the body is used to from the smoking habit.
I am not sure what mgs you use of nicotine but you can try using a lower mgs for you regular vaping and then when a urge is huge vape a juice with more mgs. Analyze your analog habit and realize that the times you are not smoking the nic level in your blood drops pretty low, then you smoke and it jumps up. You want to try and give your body the same ups and downs with vaping as you did with analogs.
For all extents and purposes vaping nicotine and smoking its as combustible gives you the same jolt of nicotine in the blood stream. It does not have to slowly leach through your skin like with a patch or get absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth to get to the blood stream. Its one thing to alternate a vape and a smoke because you are controlling your intake. Mixing a patch and a vape (or smoke) when you can't turn the patch off while vaping is just raising your nic level to numbers you never were are before - satisfying yes - not that you need that high a level - but you are wanting that nic 'spike'.
Using a patch will just give you a base level of nicotine that is higher then your normal low blood levels between analogs but won't satisfy the 'need' which is when the body wants the spike. Mixing the two most likely will just get you addicted to a greater mgs of nicotine. You also risk nicotine toxicity especially if you are wearing an 18 or 24 mg patch and smoking or vaping the same amount periodically.
Changing e-juice flavors can help some, analogs really screw with taste buds and some tire out quickly if you keep feeding them the same tastes as they recover or try to from analogs. For some people a great flavor in one session can be flat and unsatisfying the next. For others tobacco flavors helped bridge the gap while for others that tobacco flavor make them want the analogs and they were much happier with non tobacco ones.
Some find that more involved vaping steps - just as dripping for each vape sessions is more satisfying then just picking up the filled tank when they want to vape. SOme people need the mechanical and oral fixation addictions answered too along with the nicotine addition to make a switch.
Its an ongoing discovery of what works for you, and its usually worth trying some of the things that helped others and see if that works for you or not. Everyone is different. Some people take up vaping and leave analogs behind in a matter of hours, while others do both for a long time, building up to more vaping then smoking until all they do is vape. Its a process and don't beat yourself up if you are not following someone else timeline or meeting one you gave yourself at the start before you knew what you faced.
Thank you so much for the info. I ended up buying the kit at Rockymountainvapor (or I should say my husband bought me the kit there). I bought there due to the fact it came with the 2 cone covers and free shipping. I had also added 2 more cone covers to my order but they called me a bit later to explain that cone covers last a very long time and the odds I would need additional ones were slim so perhaps I would prefer to buy empty canisters instead which I would tend to use. I said ok and changed my order. I thought that was excellent customer service and a reason for me to buy from them for future items.
thank you again!
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