struggling. Up the nicotine?

[whanso1]

So today i realized that i have been struggling lately, last two or three days. Seems i can't get satisfaction... at least not completely satisfied.
I feel like i'm chasing something.... maybe i'm looking for all the nasty stuff in analogs. It is a familiar feeling though, was always 'chasing' something with cigarettes also; never completely satisfied. At first my 24mg juices straightened me out fairly quickly. Now it seems i'm vaping 24mg all day like i was doing with 12mg last week. I did attempt a cigarette last night, couldn't find a lighter that worked so decided to just sleep. (I have analogs laying around wherever they were, i didn't plan on quitting.) Woke up feeling okay before work at 6am, but by 9:30am i was struggling again. Vaped a bunch and still had that feeling of lack. Went outside to vape and the smell of all the people smoking was nasty, but i stood in the smoke to see if second hand smoke would relieve whatever this is, but no relief just smelled gross after that.
Heck i even tried getting some exercise; went for a walk which some how turned into a jog (i haven't jogged in at least 12 years) for a little while. Tried upping caffeine (i find myself craving soda less lately; so i had some coffee), was slightly better... but still chasing something. Switched flavors of juice a few times, upped/lowered voltage/resistance, puffed inhaled tried it all...
I don't have any medical issues i know of beyond high blood pressure; blood pressure much better the last two weeks pulse still a tad high though. Was diagnosed as depressed as a teenager, but what teenager isn't and that was 18 years ago... No life changing things going on lately...
Should i go to 36mg?
More sleep? (i am sleeping more than i use to... and sleeping way better! Only wake up at night rarely, use to wake up several times at night)
Just wait it out, like it's a phase?
Should i ? Any suggestions?

 

[klynnn]

Some people just can't quit that quickly, if the cravings get real bad have a smoke. Some have gone a year before they went to vaping exclusively. When I first started I got that overwhelming antcy feeling every so often, I'd have a cig and go back to vaping. Eventually the cravings go away and the cigs taste terrible. It really helps if you find a juice you love too.

 

[HOPS]

What king of juice are you using? I've found that for me 100% VG is more satisfying than any ratio mix with PG at the same nic level. I think this is solely because I get a lot more vapor off the straight VG so it feels and looks more like smoking, and that the higher satisfaction is purely psychological. When I only have a mixed juice carto with me, I find myself fiending for my CE3 w/ straight VG. Don't know if that will do it for ya, but worth a try?

 

[Stnorder]

What device are you using?

 

[Stnorder]

For me, I started with the ego, stepped up to the ego twist, and today I ordered a provari mini. The highter volts seems to help alot. I use 18 mg, the 24mg was too much, but I vape alot

 

[Susaz]

I also get cravings and I´m not pushing it. Whenever I light up it´s dissapointing... Gives no vapor! I still smoke around 10 cigarrettes a day, sometimes even less. Get rid of ashtrays and don´t keep your cigarrettes with you. Get a lanyard. Try another atty. Slowly you´ll realize that cravings are just that, and soon forget about them.

 

[r77r7r]

I had a hard time until I simplified the process (with an xl carto vs finicky, stressful atty), and added some heat. What r u vaping with? I had to go to 3.7 Riva/Kgo with a LR 2.0 carto.

That said, I couldn't get under 6 aday for a few weeks.

 

[DC2]

It is quite possible you could benefit from some WTA juice.

The link below explains the entire concept...
Whole Tabacco Alkaloid (WTA) juice

It was made for people who are chasing something they just aren't getting from nicotine alone.
And that does kinda sound like you.

 

[zephyree]

WTA? Whole tobacco alkaloid juice? I've never tried it, but some folks say its nice when you feel like just the nicotine isn't cutting it. You could look into it. But I think it's also reasonable to just let it go, stop chasing it and maybe you'll stop noticing you haven't caught it.

Edit, see above post for actual useful info on WTA

 

[zephyree]

Found this:
http://www.aromaejuice.com/Flavoured-Eliquid-with-Whole-Tobacco-Alkaloid-WTA_c33.htm

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

So today i realized that i have been struggling lately, last two or three days. Seems i can't get satisfaction... at least not completely satisfied.

The first 10- 14 days we are going through withdrawal of alkoids from tobacco other than nicotine.

Tried upping caffeine (i find myself craving soda less lately; so i had some coffee), was slightly better... but still chasing something. Switched flavors of juice a few times, upped/lowered voltage/resistance, puffed inhaled tried it all...

Vaping is extremely dehydrating and can negatively affect the vaping experience. Add to that some java (on its own more than 4 cups will dehydrate) and extreme dehydration. ADD to that some caffeine based soda drinks and...I drink at least 1 1/2 liters water per day.

More sleep? (i am sleeping more than i use to... and sleeping way better! Only wake up at night rarely, use to wake up several times at night)

Nicotine can be either a stimulant or a relaxant. In your case it seems to be the latter.

Should i go to 36mg? Just wait it out, like it's a phase?

I'm not suggesting you up your nicotine to 36 but I began at 36...it was what I needed at the time. Add to that I was a vaping maniac for the first 3-4 weeks.
If the higher nicotine doesn't help you may want to try WTA. Many in a similar situation have used it with great success.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-alkaloid-wta-now-available-aroma-ejuice.html

The Best of Luck.

 

[njay23]

So you need to figure out what it is you're chasing. You said you felt this way with cigarettes too so it might have nothing to do with vaping. Or maybe it is a little nic withdrawal making that familiar feeling just a little heightened. At any rate doesn't seem like having an actual cigarette will make you feel any better. So..... what IS it you're looking for?

 

[HOPS]

So..... what IS it you're looking for?

Ahhhhhhh. Is that not the grandest of all questions. I surmise that if each of us had that one fine answer, we'd not be on this forum as we'd have no need or use for nicotine (or other vices)... lol

 

[zoiDman]

...Should i go to 36mg?
...

I know for me it helped.

I've read posts where people say they took One Hit of 12mg and Never Smoked again. That wasn't how it was for me. I needed to go up to 36mg to get over the 7 Day mark of No Cigarettes.

2 Things I would suggest.

If you Really want to quit Smoking, Don’t torment yourself by having One or Two cigarettes. Or having cigarettes laying around. It just prolongs the Struggle of Quitting.

If you’re not ready to quit, then ramp down to 4 or 5 cigarettes a day over a couple of weeks. It is Easier to quit 4 or 5 Cigarettes a day than it is to Quit a Pack a Day.

Quitting Cigarettes is Hard. But sometimes if you want something, Really want something, you have to Grit your Teeth to Get It.

 

[SuziesMom]

I vape at 36mg all day every day, and have since the beginning with a hiatus while I was pregnant (and just didn't feel the need for it or caffeine- weird). Some people are just nicotine super freaks, and need that much...I DIY, and have occasionally nudged it up a smidge higher than 36.

Also, don't beat yourself up if you have a stinky. Reducing is great, and every cigarette you don't smoke is a victory. If you have a few puffs in the morning- you're still doing a heck of a lot better than you were before. Eventually that first cigarette will become pointless, and you'll quit. Just don't let guilt drag you down.

Enjoy this experience as much as possible, and you'll be a non-smoker soon enough.

 

[pericat]

As my partner pointed out to me, I had a number of strong habitual behaviours related to having a smoke. The last time I quit, cold turkey it was and lasted weeks and was just awful, primarily because I was all at sea with many of my ordinary patterns disrupted. So that sort of thing may be contributing to your 'seeking' feelings.

 

[LiLesah]

The transition from analog to ecigs can be really hard at first. It will take some getting used to - if you feel like you need to up the mg, then maybe try it out for a while. I've been vaping for 2+ years now - and there are still times where I slip & have a regular cig. It's okay to still crave analogs, but after a while I bet you'll prefer vaping... that's how it was for me anyway - I got hooked on all the different flavors, & ecigs there are to try.

 

[whanso1]

Thanks for all the suggestions.
I have hardware from blu's to twists with mini nova tanks, and several things in between. Hardware, i bought too much.
I should have spent more on juices i guess.... but i have some new liquids en-route that i ordered yesterday.
Going to get some 36mg on order soon, going to see how the less expensive mountainVapor liquid works for me first though, if i like it i'll get some 36, just to try.
I have a decent assortment of juices, but so far only gummy bears by pinkspot 18mg do i really really like.... and it's sweetness gets old as the day goes on, cherrywood tobacco is my second favorite at 24mg pick me up, but that has a powerful taste i can't take all day long. My straight vg's i can't really taste and don't care for too much, letting it steep to try it again. No shortage of other flavors around though... just those are my favorites that i have found so far.

I got called in to work soon after original post, forgot to bring my bag o' goodies. Had enough to get me by though. So on the way there i decided i'd try a stinky, just because; considering it research . Well, it tasted like garbage, like a bad medicine, it was yucky. But i forced myself to puff most of it. About five minutes later i felt my headache receding and just a general good ole okie dokie feeling. Didn't cure the chase, but eased it. Similar to any other cig i ever smoked (except now the taste is garbage), but now i'm sure there is some junk in stinkies that i want/'need'; that is going to be a tough barrier for me to get through. I wasn't in this to quit; that's just the way it began to turn out (and will likely continue to), so one here and there isn't going to bother me; other than being quite proud of the day-counter signature; but i will get over it.

Going to research the aroma juice with the WTA a bit before i jump on that.

 

[VapRon]

I weened myself of smokes slowly over a few weeks period. Went from 5 to 3 to 2 and to 1 cigaret. After stoping the smokes i continued with 18 mg/ml and then to 12 mg/ml. At that stage I got cravings. To get around that I got some 18 mg/ml juice just for those cravings and continued with 12 mg/ml most of the time.
Right now I am at 6mg/ml with some 12 on hand in case there should be cravings. Just try some different combinations mg/ml, juices and also the wta. Dont push it. When you found what works best it will be a piece of cake.

 

[peraspera]

But i forced myself to puff most of it. About five minutes later i felt my headache receding and just a general good ole okie dokie feeling. Didn't cure the chase, but eased it.

Cigarettes deliver a very fast nicotine hit. Vaping releases nicotine very slowly. When I first started vaping I made sure to take two or three draws every ten to fifteen minutes to prevent my nicotine levels from crashing through the basement. I also vaped a higher nicotine level an hour before going to bed and again when first getting up in the morning.

I don't have to vape the higher level anymore at night and in the morning but I still pay attention to vaping frequently. My method might not work for you but you do need to plan your quitting strategy around the slower nicotine uptake one gets from vaping as opposed to smoking.

Best of luck in finding a solution that works for you.