There is already a clone thread. I will not be back in this section again if there is not a place where we can support SvoёMesto. I am going to do a couple of things in the Provari section over the weekend then I will take my leave of this forum for 8 or 9 months.
SvoёMesto KAYFUN 4
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I own a bunch of authentic and clone kf4. Love em all
But I think the issue here now is more of "staying on topic".
Fortunately/unfortunately, the topic of this thread is specified to be the svoemesto kayfun 4. It's not the ALL kayfun 4. The OP was deliberate (and rightfully so) in specifying the OG maker.
So. As simple and basic forum etiquette, there really shouldn't be discussion of clones or counterfeits. It's nothing to do with moral high ground or having beef with clones. It's really just sticking to the topic.
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But I think the issue here now is more of "staying on topic".
Fortunately/unfortunately, the topic of this thread is specified to be the svoemesto kayfun 4. It's not the ALL kayfun 4. The OP was deliberate (and rightfully so) in specifying the OG maker.
So. As simple and basic forum etiquette, there really shouldn't be discussion of clones or counterfeits. It's nothing to do with moral high ground or having beef with clones. It's really just sticking to the topic.
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Some clone fanbois can't help themselves ... they just have to come to these authentic threads to spout how awesome they think their counterfeit stuff is ... then, when we tell them ... you get what you pay for .... they go lalalalalala ... we can't hear you
^^^^THAT. All I can say is: Thank the WebMaster for the IGNORE button!
The topic here IS the SvoëMesto KF4...NOT -just any old- KF4...because the clones are NOT KF4's.
Nothing but an authentic KF4 is a KF4.
So I'd prefer we stay on topic too!
How many of us does that make? I've lost count. Yet the word "clone" keeps popping up!
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SteamTuners has an awesome set of accessories for the KF4...and one of them is a "spring replacement"...anyone try it yet?
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SteamTuners has an awesome set of accessories for the KF4...and one of them is a "spring replacement"...anyone try it yet?
Yes, I think Raitiz or someone else had posted about it a few pages back. It seems it is a well designed and thoughtful upgrade.
And please no Infinite, HCigar, Tobecco, EHPro etc. talks in this thread. PLEASE let's stick to SvoёMesto!
I appreciate and thank you for your post. You have been great and your video's have helped out a lot. Unfortunately because it does not seem possible to have a spot devoted to the manufacturer I will be leaving the forum Monday. I might be back in 8-9 months, don't know but it seems like there is only a couple places out where things can be devoted to a specific manufacturer.
I don't see why? They are the same thing basically except for the price. We all need to work together to help each other. This is way out of hand now. It's just crazy that some people have this issue with this.No sir. It is only about the SvoёMesto KAYFUN 4
Ricks, you need to 'leave it go'. The OP has politely asked to stay on topic per the thread title. No one is asking you not to talk about your favorite subject, just be courtesy and polite to the OP and take the other talk over here:
Attack of the (Kayfun v4) Clones!
there are 2 separate threads ...why not post in the one best suited? ... the main difference is, you don't see the authentic users posting about their K4s in the clone thread ... however, we always hear the term "my clones are just as good or better as authentic here in these threads
It's not the same thing at all. The difference is we would rather support the innovator of a high quality product and not try to put them out of business. You on the other hand couldn't care less who went out of business as long as you can buy a fake and save a few bucks. You have kayfun clones and there is a thread for kayfun clones so why spend time here saying how great your Tobecco is?
No sir. It is only about the SvoёMesto KAYFUN 4
The name of the thread says it all.
Because this is kinda how forums fundamentally work......?
OP specifies topic. Participants of a thread are expected to follow the topic plain and simple. Otherwise you end up with dilution of subject matters and forums kinda become a mess.
In fact to give a specific example, it's known that some clones, including your favored tobeco clones have issues with requiring the #16 (if I recall correctly) be replaced. Now if you think about it, it is:
1) kinda ridiculous that authentic owners should have to deal with queries about it since it's really not their issue at all
2) from a solutioning point of view, incredibly inefficient and plain messy. The fact that the kf4 clone thread has been a solid repository of solutions for clone issues is proof that it should be consolidated and kept there.
Not calling names, but at this point when fellow members have politely explained to you, and when the OP has very kindly stated the intent of his thread, you're quickly becoming obnoxious.
Coming from someone who thinks clones have their place btw.
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This is far from correct. If you can't respect the title, don't participate in this thread. Staying on topic keep thread from becoming a mess (unfortunately is has become).
I'm done with this subject here. Just letting it go for now. I will just help who I can and continue to not care where it came from. I only care about vaping and helping people with their vaping questions. Sorry qorax
I can't agree with this Ricks. Bashing cloners for their lack of principals is fine. They are in essence thieves unless they change something, even if it's just the color.
What I don't like is the bashing of guys like you that buy them. We don't have to like it or agree with it but calling it other than immoral for supporting theft of intellectual property is just being an .... Maybe more companies should take a hint from Zen and profit off the clones in some way. Spare parts are a good way to make a bit of money off a clone.
It could be either one. I have both and did some batch testing on clones for a local shop that went more in depth than just vaping them. Read my post below.
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