SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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Legal niceties, good manners and psychic abilities to accurately intuit the intent of the sender aside, it is against ECF rules to post emails one receives from others. The most helpful place for YiHi's recommendations regarding vaping while charging via USB would be in their SX Mini M Class manual, in their SX Mini FAQ and/or as an addendum to their SX350J chip specs.
I agree!


If Yihi has a position on the subject I expect that they would definitely want it to be public and would respond positively if someone asked them if they were willing to be quoted.
 

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go into a colder room lol
I know that you are aware that nickel wire does change resistance based on the temperature of the wire so it would be expected that your resistance value would be different if you are outside in winter or on a hot summer day on the beach. Shouldn't you expect to see that? It shouldn't matter because the device calibrates based on the atty and the mod being the same temperature and once locked together will be at proper calibration. I would have to assume that Yihi made the .065 statement based on a normal room temperature condition. If you happen to be in a meat freezer then .065 might not be the optimal setting.

Have you tried this yourself or do you even have one to try it on? It is really pretty simple and works well. Why the confusion?
 

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I know that you are aware that nickel wire does change resistance based on the temperature of the wire so it would be expected that your resistance value would be different if you are outside in winter or on a hot summer day on the beach. Shouldn't you expect to see that? It shouldn't matter because the device calibrates based on the atty and the mod being the same temperature and once locked together will be at proper calibration. I would have to assume that Yihi made the .065 statement based on a normal room temperature condition. If you happen to be in a meat freezer then .065 might not be the optimal setting.

Have you tried this yourself or do you even have one to try it on? It is really pretty simple and works well. Why the confusion?

I think you are correct in your assumption that YiHi meant at a reasonable room temperature. dr g is also correct in that YiHi gave a preferred 0.065 resistance and didn't mention the second data point of temperature that is required for the resistance to make sense in the context of establishing the exact measurement of the listed preferred baseline. So while dr g is technically correct in his statement, he is still a bit disingenuous in not making the logical assumption of a comfortable room temperature. Just a silly argument on his part, that while not incorrect, is not helpful in the least.
 

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I think you are correct in your assumption that YiHi meant at a reasonable room temperature. dr g is also correct in that YiHi gave a preferred 0.065 resistance and didn't mention the second data point of temperature that is required for the resistance to make sense in the context of establishing the exact measurement of the listed preferred baseline. So while dr g is technically correct in his statement, he is still a bit disingenuous in not making the logical assumption of a comfortable room temperature. Just a silly argument on his part, that while not incorrect, is not helpful in the least.
My point exactly Jazzman! :danger:
 

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I know that you are aware that nickel wire does change resistance based on the temperature of the wire so it would be expected that your resistance value would be different if you are outside in winter or on a hot summer day on the beach. Shouldn't you expect to see that? It shouldn't matter because the device calibrates based on the atty and the mod being the same temperature and once locked together will be at proper calibration. I would have to assume that Yihi made the .065 statement based on a normal room temperature condition. If you happen to be in a meat freezer then .065 might not be the optimal setting.

Have you tried this yourself or do you even have one to try it on? It is really pretty simple and works well. Why the confusion?

What I know, at this point, is if one doesn't build a coil at .065 or less, one will not optimize/utilize the sx mini m class. Using 26 gauge (imo) gives the user the best chance to optimize the mini's abilities. This is my 2nd day with a 26 gauge 7/6 wrap and the flavor and vapor are only getting better. This is a much more temperamental device than the rdna 40, but once you figure it out, it blows the rdna 40 away.
 

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Hello all,

Still working on getting our questions answered from YiHI and added the USB charging question too. Seems we really need that bit of info. We should know very soon!

In the mean time suck my mod has released a review of the M Class


Suck my mod, can suck my mod. Screw him!!!! Editorial comments by the Pepper are done.:lol:
 
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What I know, at this point, is if one doesn't build a coil at .065 or less, one will not optimize/utilize the sx mini m class. Using 26 gauge (imo) gives the user the best chance to optimize the mini's abilities. This is my 2nd day with a 26 gauge 7/6 wrap and the flavor and vapor are only getting better. This is a much more temperamental device than the rdna 40, but once you figure it out, it blows the rdna 40 away.
I agree, Yihi states on their SXmini M Class website... "SXmini is designed specially for professional and high level vapers". It was not designed for the casual user and folks who are new to the vaping game. It doesn't mean that a newbie can't use it, but don't expect it to do everything for you without you knowing the basics of advanced vaping.
 

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I agree, Yihi states on their SXmini M Class website... "SXmini is designed specially for professional and high level vapers". It was not designed for the casual user and folks who are new to the vaping game. It doesn't mean that a newbie can't use it, but don't expect it to do everything for you without you knowing the basics of advanced vaping.

I can't agree with you more, Jim. I feel sorry for most newbie's (if not all) that buy this device. I'm not the most advanced user, but I have been vaping since 2008. I count on people like you to give me basic information to get me acclimated to the basics and hopefully with a little intuition, I can go from there. Thanks again, my friend, for getting me pointed in the right direction. I'm lovin' this pv.
 
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Has anyone purchased their M class from vapenw and how was it in stock or pre-order? I was just wandering as i ordered my 2nd from them (the only place i can find grey/black) and was wanting to know how well their service was. I purchased my 1st from eciggity and they were fantastic out the door same day. Thanks in advance.
 
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Has anyone purchased their M class from vapenw and how was it in stock or pre-order? I was just wandering as i ordered my 2nd from them

They have an excellent reputation... no need to worry. I don't know if they have them in stock, but I would assume you should know....

Congrats!
 

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Has anyone purchased their M class from vapenw and how was it in stock or pre-order? I was just wandering as i ordered my 2nd from them (the only place i can find grey/black) and was wanting to know how well their service was. I purchased my 1st from eciggity and they were fantastic out the door same day. Thanks in advance.

I ordered from vapenw and they were fantastic. I ordered on a Tuesday from the east coast and my sx mini m class was delivered on Thursday. I wouldn't hesitate from ordering from them again.
 

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I can't agree with you more, Jim. I feel sorry for most newbie's (if not all) that buy this device. I'm not the most advanced user, but I have been vaping since 2008. I count on people like you to give me basic information to get me acclimated to the basics and hopefully with a little intuition, I can go from there. Thanks again, my friend, for getting me pointed in the right direction. I'm lovin' this pv.
Sgt. Pepper, compare to your experience I am the newbie! Those of us who appreciate what vaping has done for us by taking away the stinky desires and help each other here on EFC are really the most advanced of vapers.
 

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Suck my mod, can suck my mod. Screw him!!!! Editorial comments by the Pepper are done.:lol:

Yeah that review kinda sucks... my bad...AGAIN!!!

I do wonder why reviewers do not talk to the MFG when they review a new tech. Talking to YIHI is slow, but they are trying their best to answer. It's not that hard even for a newbie. Thank god we have RIP Trippers :)
 

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They have an excellent reputation... no need to worry. I don't know if they have them in stock, but I would assume you should know....

Congrats!
Pre-order was just wondering what other peoples experience was with them as I've heard great things about their service just never their pre-orders. Thanks for the reply
 

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I know that you are aware that nickel wire does change resistance based on the temperature of the wire so it would be expected that your resistance value would be different if you are outside in winter or on a hot summer day on the beach. Shouldn't you expect to see that? It shouldn't matter because the device calibrates based on the atty and the mod being the same temperature and once locked together will be at proper calibration. I would have to assume that Yihi made the .065 statement based on a normal room temperature condition. If you happen to be in a meat freezer then .065 might not be the optimal setting.

Have you tried this yourself or do you even have one to try it on? It is really pretty simple and works well. Why the confusion?

Of course you should expect to see that, that's why a temperature reference is VERY IMPORTANT. Yes I do have SX350Js and have done all kinds of testing on them. I have a very thorough understanding of TP and the technology behind it, so the design flaws in the SXJ board are glaring to me.

I think you are correct in your assumption that YiHi meant at a reasonable room temperature. dr g is also correct in that YiHi gave a preferred 0.065 resistance and didn't mention the second data point of temperature that is required for the resistance to make sense in the context of establishing the exact measurement of the listed preferred baseline. So while dr g is technically correct in his statement, he is still a bit disingenuous in not making the logical assumption of a comfortable room temperature. Just a silly argument on his part, that while not incorrect, is not helpful in the least.

What temperature is that? Comfortable room temperature is not only not stated anywhere by YiHi, it's a ridiculously subjective measurement.

This is very helpful in understanding just how well YiHi understood the concept of temperature control when they made their device. Put in context, a lot of the things that confuse people make more sense, when you understand that YiHi did not have a good and thorough understanding of TP.

There is a lot of wisdom and forethought in having a normalized reading on the device and a consistent calibration paradigm. Without normalized readings and consistent calibration, two people cannot talk about the resistance in the same frame of reference.

I agree!

If Yihi has a position on the subject I expect that they would definitely want it to be public and would respond positively if someone asked them if they were willing to be quoted.

Good luck with that ... speaking from firsthand expeirence, YiHi's communication borders on ridiculous.
 
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For the 2 that had the convo on the usb charging kidneypunchers.com has a line under the warranty section of the description that they recommend not using it for usb charging only for user upgrades.
SX Mini M Class w Temp Control - Kidney Puncher

I wonder what the statement about upgrading the chip is about.

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I know that you are aware that nickel wire does change resistance based on the temperature of the wire so it would be expected that your resistance value would be different if you are outside in winter or on a hot summer day on the beach. Shouldn't you expect to see that? It shouldn't matter because the device calibrates based on the atty and the mod being the same temperature and once locked together will be at proper calibration. I would have to assume that Yihi made the .065 statement based on a normal room temperature condition. If you happen to be in a meat freezer then .065 might not be the optimal setting.

Have you tried this yourself or do you even have one to try it on? It is really pretty simple and works well. Why the confusion?

Hi
If the coupling and vaping is at the same ambient temperature I suppose it makes no difference.. But what if the coupling and vaping happens with 2 different ambient temp, not much, maybe like 4-5 deg c ? Like if we do the build on a cold nite and the next day is like bloody hot or even in an air-con room and outside is very hot?
As you mentioned nickel resistance changes with temperature, and I suppose the chip too, will there be a marked difference in the chip operation when that happens? Or maybe the difference is minimum and negligible?
Btw not nitpicking, but over here nite time is cool, but daytime is bloody hot! Just curious on my part :)
 
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