SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

[dam718]

Did anybody get the extension tube with their m-class? Does having it in series mean you can't use joules mode?

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You don't need the extension tube to use Temp Control (joules mode)... That does unlock its ability to shoot up to 120 watts as opposed to 60. Not sure if it doubles the joules capability from 50 to 100. The other thing it does is add an 18650 sized tube to the bottom of your SX mini which looks pretty ridiculous IMO. I'd rather see someone design a tube that runs up the back of the device. It would take some creative engineering. I have some ideas on how to pull it off, but I don't have access to a mill or the know how to draft the design for a 3rd party fab shop to make a prototype. Crappy

EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post as saying CAN use it in joules mode, not CAN'T... Disregard I just had my eyes dilated, things are still a bit blurry


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[peraspera]

Did anybody get the extension tube with their m-class? Does having it in series mean you can't use joules mode?

Varitube posted that with series batteries the temperature mode only goes up to 50J but normal mode goes to 120 watts. Varitube has worked closely with YiHi since the introduction of the SX350 chip series so they are a good source of reliable info.

 

[ThunderDan]

Varitube posted that with series batteries the temperature mode only goes up to 50J but normal mode goes to 120 watts. Varitube has worked closely with YiHi since the introduction of the SX350 chip series so they are a good source of reliable info.

Thanks, was just curious because the specs seem to indicate it only works with one battery, or parallel.

http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX350J-293407.html

Under Joules mode it shows Input Voltage 3.2-4.5.

Maybe varitube needs to work with yihi on their spec sheet too.

Edit

Also was more curious about it for building a mod using the board, NOT getting an extension tube for the m-class, heh, I agree its terribly ugly.

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[peraspera]

Dan - you might want to subscribe to the Varitube SX350 thread where the post to which I linked above came from. Varitube generally has the most up-to-date info on what is going on with the current SX350 chip in that thread. I don't build but I subscribe to that thread to just keep up with the latest info.

I would agree that the specs regarding using the SX350J with series batteries is confusing and is in need of an update. Also, YiHi posted on their SX Mini site that the specs for the the minimum oHms for Joules mode is wrong. The correct minimum is .05 oHm.

 

[jwbnyc]

Everyone can go up vote the SXmini M class in Pbusardo review que to maybe get some charts / graphs and all the techy stuff from him sooner. Only has 3 votes atm.

Taste Your Juice | REVIEW QUEUE VOTING

Done.

It's number Ten with a bullet...

 

[DDramaSV]

Everyone can go up vote the SXmini M class in Pbusardo review que to maybe get some charts / graphs and all the techy stuff from him sooner. Only has 3 votes atm.

Taste Your Juice | REVIEW QUEUE VOTING

I voted too! I'm hoping he does this review soon. They are always unbiased but I'm pretty sure he's gonna like this mod!! It's hard not to

 

[dam718]

Man, I've seen the price go up $5 two times (at VaporDNA) since the first email was sent out. I hope this doesn't continue as I am not quite ready to buy yet. Oh well, at least this thread hasn't reported back a slew of glitches(!) -- so far. Thank for the great read.

Eciggity hasn't changed their price (yet!)

Varitube is still 199.99 as well...

I'd look for a different vendor, unless you're just loyal to VaporDNA

 

[JimScotty0]

Well the reviews are starting to hit on the M class. Here is a good one on TVC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AbRhHBDXmc

 

[Sptz]

Quick, possible stupid question. If you set up your atty and then leave the house and it's freezing cold. Will TC work well?

 

[KenD]

I don't think so. This mod has a removable battery you know

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Tony

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I was gonna say that. Appears that this is very reasonably priced as well when comparing to the competition, so not Apple

 

[dam718]

Quick, possible stupid question. If you set up your atty and then leave the house and it's freezing cold. Will TC work well?

Hmm... That is a good question... I'd be interested to find out myself. I would assume (take that for what it's worth) that because TC uses the change in resistance to measure "temperature", as long as you set your baseline at room temperature, it will still heat it to the resistance delta of that baseline. In theory, it should work like a charm...

In practice? Who knows? It's always summer here in Hawaii so I'll never be able to test this out! LoL

 

[Sptz]

Hmm... That is a good question... I'd be interested to find out myself. I would assume (take that for what it's worth) that because TC uses the change in resistance to measure "temperature", as long as you set your baseline at room temperature, it will still heat it to the resistance delta of that baseline. In theory, it should work like a charm...

In practice? Who knows? It's always summer here in Hawaii so I'll never be able to test this out! LoL

I guess my question could be applied to hotter places as well, being in an A/C'ed house and then leaving to the scorching hot sun... Damn I hate you!

 

[dr g]

Quick, possible stupid question. If you set up your atty and then leave the house and it's freezing cold. Will TC work well?

It better ...

 

[tchavei]

Hmm... That is a good question... I'd be interested to find out myself. I would assume (take that for what it's worth) that because TC uses the change in resistance to measure "temperature", as long as you set your baseline at room temperature, it will still heat it to the resistance delta of that baseline. In theory, it should work like a charm...

In practice? Who knows? It's always summer here in Hawaii so I'll never be able to test this out! LoL

Since you can set the baseline manually, it should work.

KISS - Keep it simple, stupid and it most probably will work fine. It's when engineers start introducing fancy algorithms when things go south.

Tony

 

[Sptz]

TC is starting to become less and less appealing to me :l Seems like it's still in it's very infancy, I like something that doesn't let me down wherever I am. It's sounding more problematic than its worth

 

[dam718]

TC is starting to become less and less appealing to me :l Seems like it's still in it's very infancy, I like something that doesn't let me down wherever I am. It's sounding more problematic than its worth

Oh, don't give up on it before you even try it out.

TC is very much so in its infancy, having only been on the market for roughly 6 months. That said, I believe most of the issues that exist with TC are not issues with the devices, but issues with the quality of the coil built by the end user. The technology works, we as vapers and coil builders need to get better at our art. That will only come with practice. The folks out there who have mastered the nickel build are having great success with both the SX350J and the DNA40 boards.

Everything that I have read about the execution of TC on the DNA 40 boards and now the SX350J board would suggest that the SX350J is currently the front runner.

So, if you decide to buy an SXmini M Class, consider this... Even if you NEVER build a coil that can take advantage of TC, you still have a GREAT VW mod that is every bit as accurate as a ProVari or DNA device.

If you're even remotely interested in trying out TC, I would say get one...

 

[TheotherSteveS]

TC is starting to become less and less appealing to me :l Seems like it's still in it's very infancy, I like something that doesn't let me down wherever I am. It's sounding more problematic than its worth

I can see where you are coming from but it actually isn't too much of a hassle. I am pretty new to it but even on a chinese knockoff VF DNA40-style clone, I have managed to get it working really consistently with both Ni and Ti builds, and the Kanger subtank Ni coils. The M-class will make it even more straightforward imho. It seems like a lot of people stress over details and possibilities that rarely or never crop up in practise. I did but now I just use the device, exercise a bit of extra care when building and vape away. If you like dripper, it really is a whole new world but really good with tanks also. I really recommend TC vaping.

 

[tchavei]

Oh, don't give up on it before you even try it out.

TC is very much so in its infancy, having only been on the market for roughly 6 months. That said, I believe most of the issues that exist with TC are not issues with the devices, but issues with the quality of the coil built by the end user. The technology works, we as vapers and coil builders need to get better at our art. That will only come with practice. The folks out there who have mastered the nickel build are having great success with both the SX350J and the DNA40 boards.

Everything that I have read about the execution of TC on the DNA 40 boards and now the SX350J board would suggest that the SX350J is currently the front runner.

So, if you decide to buy an SXmini M Class, consider this... Even if you NEVER build a coil that can take advantage of TC, you still have a GREAT VW mod that is every bit as accurate as a ProVari or DNA device.

If you're even remotely interested in trying out TC, I would say get one...

Definitely a combination of user error, material quality and groundbreaking technology.

For what it's worth, since I started to try to build ABOVE the lower limit of TP resistance, even minor resistance drifts aren't an issue anymore. Its when you operate on the borderline when things can go iffy...


Tony

 

[Sptz]

Thank you both, you're just saying all of this to make me spend more money

No, but really, thanks for easing my mind a bit. I don't use drippers, those days are kind of gone to me, only rebuildable tanks, or tank really (erlk). So that's pretty much one of the only if not the only atty that would sit on top of it.

I gotta say, the looks are phenomenal, I'm having a spasm of G.A.S. right now, edging on the buy button.

 

[tchavei]

Thank you both, you're just saying all of this to make me spend more money

No, but really, thanks for easing my mind a bit. I don't use drippers, those days are kind of gone to me, only rebuildable tanks, or tank really (erlk). So that's pretty much one of the only if not the only atty that would sit on top of it.

I gotta say, the looks are phenomenal, I'm having a spasm of G.A.S. right now, edging on the buy button.

Erlk, Erlp are some of the best tanks to use for TP. They have very solid connections from top to bottom.