SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)
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That's accurate enough for me
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Tony
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That's accurate enough for me
Accuracy is unknown for any given instance. You cannot compare his results to yours, or results across atomizers, or even firings, if you have no consistent way to calibrate the temperature.
Or perhaps this is more accurate: calibration information will have to accompany any given temperature reading in order to achieve meaningful figures across devices, atomizers, etc.
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Indeed, VG is the enemy when it comes to temperature control. It likes to sit in our wicks and insulate the heat of our coils, causing them to take longer to cool.
IMHO, high VG juices are more effective in tank systems that can handle them in comparison to drippers. In tanks, the coils are receiving a constant flow of fresh liquid to help cool down the coils. In drippers, some of your VG is just gonna sit in your wick, matching the temperature of your coil as it gets hotter. Letting your dripper sit or constantly redripping is the only way to get temps back down.
If you have high VG juices and want to use TC at higher wattages, diluting with a small amount of water or PG can help maintain cooler temps.
IMHO, high VG juices are more effective in tank systems that can handle them in comparison to drippers. In tanks, the coils are receiving a constant flow of fresh liquid to help cool down the coils. In drippers, some of your VG is just gonna sit in your wick, matching the temperature of your coil as it gets hotter. Letting your dripper sit or constantly redripping is the only way to get temps back down.
If you have high VG juices and want to use TC at higher wattages, diluting with a small amount of water or PG can help maintain cooler temps.
Oh no !!! Eight degrees of wobble well that will never do.
The SXmini does have an internal temperature sensor and will warn you if the board temperature gets too high. As far as locking in the base resistance that is no big deal it is only used to determine wire size and where to start on the Ni200 characteristic resistivity curve which is what the SX does. The instructions say when both the Atty and device are at the same temperature lock in the Base Resistance. Once the heating element resistance is known at a given temperature there is no need to continually fool with it like some devices do. i.e. my other unit that messes with the base temp all the time has a real bad day when I leave it in the car for an hour or two which usually makes my day go not so well also (and it isn't even summer here in the desert with summer time temps that typically run around 110-115 degrees F.
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Oh no !!! Eight degrees of wobble well that will never do.
The SXmini does have an internal temperature sensor and will warn you if the board temperature gets too high. As far as locking in the base resistance that is no big deal it is only used to determine wire size and where to start on the Ni200 characteristic resistivity curve which is what the SX does. The instructions say when both the Atty and device are at the same temperature lock in the Base Resistance. Once the heating element resistance is known at a given temperature there is no need to continually fool with it like some devices do. i.e. my other unit that messes with the base temp all the time has a real bad day when I leave it in the car for an hour or two which usually makes my day go not so well also (and it isn't even summer here in the desert with summer time temps that typically run around 110-115 degrees F.
i suppose the argument against that is that in you r car in the summer, the base resistance has changed in effect. The coil will be at a higher temp and the resistance will have increased. The mod doesn't know that. That is what refinement is doing I think - trying to compensate for slight changes in the resistor that arise form any number of effects. I think refinement causes more trouble than its worth but there you go..its never hot here anyway and hopefully my mod and coils won't be exposed to the eternal downpour that is the English summer...lol!
The wife loves it, she picked it, so as long as she is happy I'm good.
@350ZMO
Beautiful!! I started to order the rose but from pics online I thought they looked a little to pinkish for me.
It is very pink in natural daylight, wife loves it.
not to enforce gender-specific stereotypes and all but we all need to in touch with our feminine side....lol!
Ok so what happens when the base resistance is changing and the device is ignoring that?
Not specifically addressed to you Holman.
No I have no issue with refinement after months of non stop use.
Nope.... there are a lot of folks that have no issue with refinement....you just don't hear from them....
I am sure you are not the only person to not have trouble with refinement. Folks are probably a little gun shy to get into a debate about the unit your are using in an SX thread.
Problems with refinement depend a lot on how you use it. Indoors, outdoors... etc. Also I am sure I will get yelled at for this but it may depend on how new your unit is. I am reasonable sure that units get small firmware updates to deal with issues that the manufacturer thinks is causing them more harm than good.
Nope. Works great for me.
I have been thoroughly enjoying the vape my SX Mini has been giving me on every coil I throw at it. For me, the SX Mini gets straight to the point while my DNA 40 devices find that magical sweet spot. I honestly can't decide which I like better. Both experiences have been excellent for me so far.
Meh ...
I use both YiHi and Evolv devices so I don't have a dog in this fight some people are trying to throw down. All I know is that I've been lucky in that ALL my devices work as they should. Heck, my vaporshark has a date of 11/08/2014 and I haven't experienced a single issue with it. It's even a scratch n dent that was marked down $50.
Still interested in other peoples experiences with each chip though.
I use both YiHi and Evolv devices so I don't have a dog in this fight some people are trying to throw down. All I know is that I've been lucky in that ALL my devices work as they should. Heck, my vaporshark has a date of 11/08/2014 and I haven't experienced a single issue with it. It's even a scratch n dent that was marked down $50.
Still interested in other peoples experiences with each chip though.
Well here is the thing with refinement mode for me. I felt like the automagic mode was implemented in favor of a manual one. I found myself all too often wanting a manual method of resetting the base resistance. So if it's a choice I would take manual over automagic refinement any day. But as the J is software upgradeable maybe it will be added at some point and I would be fine with that too just don't take away the manual reset feature.
Why do you feel you needed to be able to reset the base resistance? The device is suppose to monitor the resistance in order to accurately predict the current temperature. If the device doesn't have the correct base and current resistance, then the temperature is not going to be accurate.
I guess what I'm asking is ... what was it doing or what was the vape like that made you decide you wanted to be able to "trick" the device into reading a different base resistance? Did you feel the vape was changing suddenly and drastically?
I guess what I'm asking is ... what was it doing or what was the vape like that made you decide you wanted to be able to "trick" the device into reading a different base resistance? Did you feel the vape was changing suddenly and drastically?
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Why would the base resistance change? If it is one foot of 28 Ga Ni200 it will be 0.3778 at room temp (whatever you consider that to be in this case 68F) it will always be 0.3778 at room temperature. Why would you continually have to diddle with the value you already know?
You're cutting to the point fairly well here. Generally people who advocate for manual setting or overrides don't really understand what refinement is doing. It is calibrating the temperature display. Manually setting that calibration means that you could have it set to anything, accurate or not. You have no real way of knowing whether the atty temperature is the same as ambient/board temperature; self-calibration monitors for temperature shifts and confirms it.
The closest you can come manually is letting the mod sit a long time before setting the calibration ... which is even more of a hassle than automatic calibration.
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