SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

[Ian444]

The battery bar is still there in Joules mode. In power mode, in the space just under the battery bar, it also shows the written voltage remaining of the battery. That area shows your set temperature in Joules mode. When you charge it via USB, the bar graph only shows a lightning bolt over the battery outline, so if you're in Joules mode there is nothing to tell you what the voltage is during the charging cycle. If you charge it in power mode you can actually see the voltage reading rise as the charge progresses.

Thanks for the detailed answer! Another question, if you leave your Ni200 build atty on, and change from temp mode to wattage mode and back to temp mode again, do you have to lock in the atty resistance again?

 

[a tez]

Thanks for the detailed answer! Another question, if you leave your Ni200 build atty on, and change from temp mode to wattage mode and back to temp mode again, do you have to lock in the atty resistance again?

The manual says to set resistance every time you switch the device into TC. I just switched to Power, then back to TC and fired and I am getting the exact same vape as I was before switching out of TC. Same resistance set and temp is fluctuating the same exact way.

 

[JimScotty0]

Are you saying there is no battery voltage indication at all in temp mode, what about the battery bar graph, is it gone?

The joules counter in the bottom left is not really needed IMO but it sure seems a great way to compare the health of your batteries, if you drain each one to the same voltage, it'll tell you if any are weak. Great for brand A/brand B comparisons too I would think. Could be wrong since I don't own one...yet.

Nope, no battery level in TC mode but the battery graph is still there and is actually pretty accurate moving ever so slowly right down to the very end of battery life. It would be good to also have the battery % on the display in TC mode. I would suggest they move the joules counter to the main menu somewhere and add the battery % on the TC display. I would also suggest changing the order of some items on the main menu. For instance I think each of us would either prefer to use F or C for our temperatures so that is not something we will be changing quite often if even at all once set. That would be a good item to go to a submenu. It also takes too many clicks to shut down the unit. As far as charging via the USB, it would be nice to see some indication when the unit is powered off. You don't see anything and have no clue of the status.

There are a few things that I would like to see improved on a very nicely made product already. I believe a few software revisions should fix most of that.

 

[JimScotty0]

ok, at least Im not going mad..

so this sucks imho. It just sits there with a lightning bolt expecting you to realise its charged when it gets to 4.2V. The bloody bolt doesnt even go away. That needs to be fixed.

The other thing that ticks me off is the J vs W mode thing. This applies across the whole memory bank so even if you have say M1 set to x W for a non-TP purpose, if you change to Joules in M3, M1-M5 all go to Joules. Am i missing something?? If not, that is pretty silly!

There are actually 10 memory banks. 5 for Watts and 5 for Joules and each appearing in their appropriate mode only.

 

[JimScotty0]

The manual says to set resistance every time you switch the device into TC. I just switched to Power, then back to TC and fired and I am getting the exact same vape as I was before switching out of TC. Same resistance set and temp is fluctuating the same exact way.

Same experience here. It seems to be remembering the setting and just going back to that. My guess is it will remain there even between battery changes until you recalibrate by pressing the up and down buttons again.

 

[a tez]

Same experience here. It seems to be remembering the setting and just going back to that. My guess is it will remain there even between battery changes until you recalibrate by pressing the up and down buttons again.

Exactly. It probably saves the last build used in the memory. I wouldn't doubt that is can go to Power, fire a kanthal build and then go back to Joules and still have the same settings.

 

[Ian444]

This is sounding good, so it measures the resistance (and probably the current temperature) and locks it in. Simple, effective, reliable, consistent. I like what I hear.

So you should be able to put it in the fridge for a few hours, pull it out and vape it same as if it never went in the fridge, with no resetting the resistance or anything. Not suggesting anyone try this, just thinking out loud.

 

[peraspera]

There was someone on here that told me they never have any problems using the OCC NI200 heads on the STmini and their VS just wondering what settings you use and do you still get the TC a lot and just ignore it or is there something wrong with my DNA40 board. I tried 450 at 22w and up to 25 and I get TP all the time which also mutes the vape quality. Is it me or is it my VS?

The issue with the Ni200 prebuilt heads seems to do with the fact that their construction allows for hot legs. That means that the average temperature of the the entire length of the coil that is used to calculate temperature will be off because the part of the coil that makes contact with the juice will be cooler than the average.

Try letting the coil refine for five or ten minutes, then set the temperature quite a bit higher than what you use for your own coils. I use very low power so my settings wouldn't be helpful but I seem to recall posts indicating that somewhere in the neighborhood of 480°+ works.

 

[JimScotty0]

This is sounding good, so it measures the resistance (and probably the current temperature) and locks it in. Simple, effective, reliable, consistent. I like what I hear.

So you should be able to put it in the fridge for a few hours, pull it out and vape it same as if it never went in the fridge, with no resetting the resistance or anything. Not suggesting anyone try this, just thinking out loud.

It has already been done! ha ha http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ini-m-class-temp-control-68.html#post15597826

 

[dr g]

So you should be able to put it in the fridge for a few hours, pull it out and vape it same as if it never went in the fridge, with no resetting the resistance or anything. Not suggesting anyone try this, just thinking out loud.

Any vaping device, TC or not, can do this.

 

[Vlad1]

ok, at least Im not going mad..

so this sucks imho. It just sits there with a lightning bolt expecting you to realise its charged when it gets to 4.2V. The bloody bolt doesnt even go away. That needs to be fixed.

The other thing that ticks me off is the J vs W mode thing. This applies across the whole memory bank so even if you have say M1 set to x W for a non-TP purpose, if you change to Joules in M3, M1-M5 all go to Joules. Am i missing something?? If not, that is pretty silly!

The USB primary function is for software upgrades. They recommend replacing the battery when it's discharged rather than using the USB. I understand your point though, I intend on charging through it when I'm out and would like some type of indicator. Pretty sure I read someone else already answered the memory location settings.

 

[inspects]

I haven't read the reasoning for not using the USB for charging, is this a safety issue, I just don't have a grasp on why not use it yet.

 

[Vlad1]

I haven't read the reasoning for not using the USB for charging, is this a safety issue, I just don't have a grasp on why not use it yet.

I suspect they didn't want to spend allot of time repairing broken or worn out ports but I'm not aware of any reason being stated by the manufacturer.

 

[inspects]

I suspect they didn't want to spend allot of time repairing broken or worn out ports but I'm not aware of any reason being stated by the manufacturer.

Vlad....thank you, that was my initial impression too......

 

[Podunk Steam]

My new toy/project just arrived from Ginger Vaper...... I know what I'll be doing this weekend -- Dual Battery Custom Box 120W TC

I have a few on the way from the same place, should be here early to mid week.

 

[jwbnyc]

Charging a totally discharged 18650 @ 500mAh is going to take some time.

 

[Podunk Steam]

If it wasn't for potential upgrades I'd loose the USB port myself, I never charge batteries in the mods I have.

 

[OutdoorXplorer]

Charging a totally discharged 18650 @ 500mAh is going to take some time.

I always keep some fully charged batteries with me instead of relying on the USB port.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

There are actually 10 memory banks. 5 for Watts and 5 for Joules and each appearing in their appropriate mode only.

Thanks! Maybe i should really should go RTFM instead of posting these dumb **** questions. Hate manuals...lol!

 

[ThunderDan]

Did anybody else's battery threads come dirty as heck? Not a big deal, I cleaned them, but OOB there was definitely some filth on them.

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