SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

[Croak]

Yes but you can use it to break some noses too

And 325gr is the weight of a burger

Yah, but with a burger, it's about 112g per hand, since you should properly be holding it with two hands:

And obviously,weight decreases in a relatively short period of time. Well, the weight of the burger decreases.

 

[IanDVaypes]

I actually love the extra weight. To me it feels like I'm actually holding something. My squape r is heavier than most of my mods making them tip over easily. The new m class helps out with that a lot and balances the weight in the hand. I love it.

 

[m00shie]

I don't mind the weight as well...in fact..I like it as it makes the mod feels sturdy and solid. The balance is really good as well compared to my previous IPV Mini with ST Mini where the tank felt heavier than the mod.

After a few days of constant chain vaping, I've no regrets in buying the SX Mini...I'm very satisfied with the flavor and cloud it produces and the temp control feature.

 

[whiteweazel21]

I just can't do the titanium thing, I'll let others play with that particular metal

Titanium wires for vaping

If that's oxidation, my nickel wire looks like that after 10-15ml lol. That wire may not have been engineered/refined for vaping either. I've read nickel released NIO2 at 400 degrees, which seems like what most people are setting their temps at. So, while I'm not exactly advocating one or the other, we are all guinea pigs here.

And maybe I'm missing something, but that "test" is even more flaky than all the scientist dry burning atomizers with 1000W and saying it's harmful. No temps, no device listed, no tests with different settings, no analysis of the "oxidation". Even kanthal changes color like that, but most people still dry burn clean their wire.

 

[dam718]

So I just got in my first spool of Ni200. Got some 30AWG to start out with.

Not too bad to work with, I was expecting this stuff to just fall apart in my hands... LoL

I did give it some twists in the drill to work harden it a bit cause it did seem awfully soft coming off the spool.

So far have done one build on my Kayfun Lite+, and I'm pretty happy with it. I think I ended up doing 8 evenly spaced wraps around a 1/8" drill bit (roughly 3mm), which meters out to around .18 Ohms. Running it at 15J, 420 F.

The vapor is every bit as present as it was on my Kanthal builds. The flavor is a lot more intense, which is good. Also, it would seem, at least to me, that the nicotine delivery is a lot better. I can actually feel it. I'm using an 8mg juice. Might need to step it down a bit. And the vape is warm, but not hot. I had it initially set to 450 which was a bit on the hot side, cooling it down to 420 seemed to work out right into the sweet spot for this particular juice. I assume most juices are going to have a temp they taste best at.

Should be getting some Japanese Organic Cotton sometime this week. Still using drug store organic cotton balls, which have served me well. My understanding is that the flavor is even better with the Japanese. We shall see.

Needless to say, it would appear that there is yet one more positive review of the temp control functionality. Seems to be working like a champ! I can take nice long pulls on this Kayfun and not a hint of burnt flavor, just nice smooth vaping.

SXmini M Class is the real deal! Go buy one, skeptics!

 

[tchavei]

So I just got in my first spool of Ni200. Got some 30AWG to start out with.

Not too bad to work with, I was expecting this stuff to just fall apart in my hands... LoL

I did give it some twists in the drill to work harden it a bit cause it did seem awfully soft coming off the spool.

So far have done one build on my Kayfun Lite+, and I'm pretty happy with it. I think I ended up doing 8 evenly spaced wraps around a 1/8" drill bit (roughly 3mm), which meters out to around .18 Ohms. Running it at 15J, 420 F.

The vapor is every bit as present as it was on my Kanthal builds. The flavor is a lot more intense, which is good. Also, it would seem, at least to me, that the nicotine delivery is a lot better. I can actually feel it. I'm using an 8mg juice. Might need to step it down a bit. And the vape is warm, but not hot. I had it initially set to 450 which was a bit on the hot side, cooling it down to 420 seemed to work out right into the sweet spot for this particular juice. I assume most juices are going to have a temp they taste best at.

Should be getting some Japanese Organic Cotton sometime this week. Still using drug store organic cotton balls, which have served me well. My understanding is that the flavor is even better with the Japanese. We shall see.

Needless to say, it would appear that there is yet one more positive review of the temp control functionality. Seems to be working like a champ! I can take nice long pulls on this Kayfun and not a hint of burnt flavor, just nice smooth vaping.

SXmini M Class is the real deal! Go buy one, skeptics!

I actually prefer tempered 30 Awg ni 200 over 28 Awg... Don't know why.

Also just did my first 30g today:

Regards
Tony

Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.

 

[zinc]

i got mine in the mail today, very impressed with both varitube with the quick shipping and the mod itself. coming from the 40 the TC seems to work slightly better. hard to say in such early testing. i tried the KF4 again and it still don't like NI200. as far as the battery screw. mine is slightly recessed in the device using LG HE2 flat tops

 

[a tez]

Well I have it. Used it for a week now and he agrees with me it's been stellar. That being said even if his graphs / charts come out to show the SXmini M to be inaccurate IMO it's a fantastic device. I do look forward to the charts & graphs though as a comparison to my experience. To the best of my knowledge he's the only reviewer that posts objective data as well as his subjective opinions. It's moving to the top of the review que pretty rapidly for only being up there about a week. Hopefully this will motivate him to expedite the testing. Taste Your Juice | REVIEW QUEUE VOTING

Yea I want to see the graphs and charts as well.

I also really want to know why 400F on the SX Mini is so much warmer than 400F on a DNA 40. 400F on the Mini is basically close to 480F on the DNA 40 for me.

 

[a tez]

It's heavier than a Vapor Flask with both batteries installed. To me, that's the biggest downside, especially since all that extra heft doesn't really add to the durability and/or aesthetics in any appreciable way.

Once you get around 130-150g in a palm-sized unit, you get into that sweet spot that triggers "quality" psychologically, in regards to "hand feel". Start exceeding that, and "quality" may or may not remain, but "clunky" and "bulky" start to show up more often. Mobile phone manufacturers have learned this lesson.

Yea it is a very heavy device. While I drive my mod basically never leaves my left hand. I had to put my SX Mini down after a while because my wrist started to hurt lol. I've been using my Hana V4m all day today to give my wrist some recovery time.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

So I just got in my first spool of Ni200. Got some 30AWG to start out with.

Not too bad to work with, I was expecting this stuff to just fall apart in my hands... LoL

I did give it some twists in the drill to work harden it a bit cause it did seem awfully soft coming off the spool.

So far have done one build on my Kayfun Lite+, and I'm pretty happy with it. I think I ended up doing 8 evenly spaced wraps around a 1/8" drill bit (roughly 3mm), which meters out to around .18 Ohms. Running it at 15J, 420 F.

The vapor is every bit as present as it was on my Kanthal builds. The flavor is a lot more intense, which is good. Also, it would seem, at least to me, that the nicotine delivery is a lot better. I can actually feel it. I'm using an 8mg juice. Might need to step it down a bit. And the vape is warm, but not hot. I had it initially set to 450 which was a bit on the hot side, cooling it down to 420 seemed to work out right into the sweet spot for this particular juice. I assume most juices are going to have a temp they taste best at.

Should be getting some Japanese Organic Cotton sometime this week. Still using drug store organic cotton balls, which have served me well. My understanding is that the flavor is even better with the Japanese. We shall see.

Needless to say, it would appear that there is yet one more positive review of the temp control functionality. Seems to be working like a champ! I can take nice long pulls on this Kayfun and not a hint of burnt flavor, just nice smooth vaping.

SXmini M Class is the real deal! Go buy one, skeptics!

I was an early adopter of TC, with one of the first run dna40s. Personally I've been using 28g on single coil and 30g on dual. With the sx letting me go down to a 0.065 in joules mode I've been using 26g for single and 28g in dual.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

If that's oxidation, my nickel wire looks like that after 10-15ml lol. That wire may not have been engineered/refined for vaping either. I've read nickel released NIO2 at 400 degrees, which seems like what most people are setting their temps at. So, while I'm not exactly advocating one or the other, we are all guinea pigs here.

And maybe I'm missing something, but that "test" is even more flaky than all the scientist dry burning atomizers with 1000W and saying it's harmful. No temps, no device listed, no tests with different settings, no analysis of the "oxidation". Even kanthal changes color like that, but most people still dry burn clean their wire.

first, that would be nickel powder that will oxidize at 400°... But even that, is 400°C not 400°F that folks run at. 400°C = 752°F. -- which is one reason they say not to dry burn Ni200 (the other is that dry burning/torching will anneal the wire, making it even softer).

 

[dam718]

I'm up in the air about the weight. It feels good, solid, unbreakable even. But they probably could have captured that same feel with a lighter material. They could have done the C frame in aluminum, or titanium, and gotten a much lighter device. It's thick enough that either material would have still had excellent structural integrity. Even if the price was a bit higher for a titanium version, considering how fantastic the electronics package is in these little gems, I would have paid $250 - $270 for a titanium version.

 

[dam718]

I was an early adopter of TC, with one of the first run dna40s. Personally I've been using 28g on single coil and 30g on dual. With the sx letting me go down to a 0.065 in joules mode I've been using 26g for single and 28g in dual.

You can go down to .05 with the SX350J board, .065 is what they recommend

I'm gonna pick up a spool of 28 as well and see how that does. How low are you running doing 26 single coils?

 

[jwbnyc]

It's heavy alright.. but I bought it to give TC a try not to carry around much.

It really is awfully heavy for what it is though.

 

[peraspera]

Yea I want to see the graphs and charts as well.

I also really want to know why 400F on the SX Mini is so much warmer than 400F on a DNA 40. 400F on the Mini is basically close to 480F on the DNA 40 for me.

Are you able to turn the temperature down on the SX Mini to get the same 400°F vape that you get on the DNA 40?

 

[a tez]

Are you able to turn the temperature down on the SX Mini to get the same 400°F vape that you get on the DNA 40?

Yea. It's closer to the 360-370F range. I like a warmer vape so I don't mind it. I just really want to know why the vape experience is so different at the same temp.

It seems like one might be displaying temperature accurately and the other isn't.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

You can go down to .05 with the SX350J board, .065 is what they recommend

I'm gonna pick up a spool of 28 as well and see how that does. How low are you running doing 26 single coils?

I've run everything all over the place lmao!
I got it Tuesday or Wednesday last weak and have been trying every combination I can think of side by side with the dna40. Mostly to compare but also to put it through its paces.
Right now I have 28g dual coil in my aqua 2...2.5mm diameter (no room for 3) at 11 wraps of 28g came to a 0.067 and its running at 35j on powerful setting at 500deg.
I have a single coil of 26g in a freak show at 3mm 11 wraps gave me a 0.08, 50j at 525 degrees.

The flavor is unbelievable in both cases and vapor production is a nice thick cut it with a knife texture.

I'm also running a dual parallel build in a mako war and cltv3 with 3mm of 28 and 24g kanthal at 90w
It's like a portable fog machine from a Motley Crü show.
-yea I'm getting old

 

[DDramaSV]

Have any of you early adopters found any fatal flaws to the M-class? Is there any reason I shouldn't purchased this device considering I want to already? I'm always hesitant to purchase a product shortly after its released-- a sentiment which has unfortunately been reinforced after some problems I've had with the DNA 40 late last year -- but in this case, since the original mini was so highly lauded, I'm feeling a bit better about it. Have any of you guys experienced any glitching or anything from the board. I'm just surprised because the consensus seems to be nearly euphoric.

I normally use tiny mods like my vapor shark DNA 40, I stick and mechs I can honestly say that even though the SX M class is larger and heavier I prefer the feel of it to anything at this point. As far as functionality it's been flawless and I love the way that it looks and feels! Hope that helps!!

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Have any of you early adopters found any fatal flaws to the M-class? Is there any reason I shouldn't purchased this device considering I want to already? I'm always hesitant to purchase a product shortly after its released-- a sentiment which has unfortunately been reinforced after some problems I've had with the DNA 40 late last year -- but in this case, since the original mini was so highly lauded, I'm feeling a bit better about it. Have any of you guys experienced any glitching or anything from the board. I'm just surprised because the consensus seems to be nearly euphoric.

NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA lmao!!!!

Some archaeology student will find that above line in 10000 years and think they found a secret code to the sector 7G.

From my uneducated understanding the s class was basically a beta for this mod. After reviewers and others reported back with there negatives of it, they corrected them and put this out. In my opinion, its as close to a perfect mod out there. The build quality is insanely good. Heavy, sturdy and very durable feeling, the finish appears flawless, and the features still blow my mind. Some people aren't a fan of battleaxe mode. I love the option of running dual batteries or not based on needs for the day.

 

[dam718]

I've run everything all over the place lmao!
I got it Tuesday or Wednesday last weak and have been trying every combination I can think of side by side with the dna40. Mostly to compare but also to put it through its paces.
Right now I have 28g dual coil in my aqua 2...2.5mm diameter (no room for 3) at 11 wraps of 28g came to a 0.067 and its running at 35j on powerful setting at 500deg.
I have a single coil of 26g in a freak show at 3mm 11 wraps gave me a 0.08, 50j at 525 degrees.

The flavor is unbelievable in both cases and vapor production is a nice thick cut it with a knife texture.

I'm also running a dual parallel build in a mako war and cltv3 with 3mm of 28 and 24g kanthal at 90w
It's like a portable fog machine from a Motley Crü show.
-yea I'm getting old

Nice. Hey, I won't say a bad thing about Motley Crue, I remember going to a show back in the 80's with them and Whitesnake opening up for them. Huge hair, and lots of fog! Haha... Good times... They don't have concerts like that anymore, stadium rock has died

I've got a few drippers I want to try some builds in. Until I get some 28, I may just try twisted 30 and see how that does. That should put me around the 29AWG resistance levels. I will wait til I get my Japanese cotton in, and some new juice I ordered. You know, waiting for vape mail to try new things.

I have a marquis, dark horse, and a doge v2 I want to try out in TC. See if they can be the fog machine beasts that they are on my mechs.