SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

[2legsshrt]

Hey a friend of mine got some 30awg wire you guys that use it twisted how many wraps do you use 2 strands twisted and what size coil?

 

[aldenf]

It's like a car, a driver can get from point a to b with a manual transmision but an automatic will be slightly easier and less involved for the driver.

Given the current state of TP technology, I prefer a different automotive analogy. As has been discussed often in this thread, TP is best utilized as a governor not cruise control.

 

[Vlad1]

Hey a friend of mine got some 30awg wire you guys that use it twisted how many wraps do you use 2 strands twisted and what size coil?

Look back through the thread for posts by Dam718, he was the one that had to use 30 until he got new wire and was talking about it.

 

[2legsshrt]

Well for me I have found out I kinda like it better with a .08 coil at 395 14J. Seems like a lot more flavor.

 

[dannyben]

OK guys, I guess I just don't get the whole TC thing......

I got my SX Mini about a week ago, and some Vapor Shark Atlantis coils for my Starre tank a few days ago. Besides the fact that I can draw on the TC atties indefinitely without it burning, I can't really notice a difference.

With all the fiddling I've been reading about in these threads about getting a TC coil to work correctly, I just don't understand what all the fuss is about? I mean, I can make a good Kanthal coil, have it mounted, wicked and vaping perfectly in about 5 minutes....why would I want to fuss with the nickel coils to get basically the same vape??

FWIW, I did try to build a TC coil on my Goliath with some old Ni200, 30awg I had laying around but the Goliath screws kept cutting the leads so I gave up.

I've been vaping for 6 years and building for most of that time and I've got it down to almost zero "fiddling" with Kanthal micro-coils...there just doesn't seem to be enough reward with the TC coils to merit all the fiddling to me. Tell me what I'm missing!

Good post! And i somewhat agree. Although, I think TC is the future and especially once the FDA and government report and start regulating. There are pluses for having a constant and consistant vape.

However, for $200, the SXMini M Class is a kick-.... VW mod with the possibilities of future firmware updates for TP.

but i have to say i have never had a better vape than i get on my sx in TC mode and i never have to worry about getting that nasty burnt cotton taste again.

Fine tuning with temp limiting does allow you to get subtle flavor differences.
It's like a car, a driver can get from point a to b with a manual transmision but an automatic will be slightly easier and less involved for the driver.

Horrible analogy. It's more like a Sony Betamax. It works good at what it does but this board is a dead-end. Just look at the SX350mini chip and S class. A great mod and I am actually using mine more and more over the M class, as it's MUCH lighter, slightly smaller and better battery usage, but it was only out for 4 months before it became outdated and unupgradable. Expect the same for us early adapters of the J chip.

And I'm sorry, but anyone who tells you Nickel does not change the taste of your e-liquid (for the negative) over Kanthal, is well flat out lying.

Don't get me wrong..... I like my M class and quite happy with my $200 purchase. Would recommend it to all. But thinking that this will be my last device for a while is silly. I'm already looking for where I can pre-order my SXmini C class (150W, dual battery, Titanium friendly) -- due out in August.

 

[Vlad1]

Given the current state of TP technology, I prefer a different automotive analogy. As has been discussed often in this thread, TP is best utilized as a governor not cruise control.

Yea I later said I should have used unicycle vs bicycle when Tchavei gave me a hard time. At any rate the "current state" is really subjective for so many reasons, the person's ability to build with different wire, different atty connections, static resistance, 510 connections, atty airflow, the coil itself, there's just so many variables that some will be overwhelmed and will have ongoing problems while others will be "crapping in high cotton" And yea it's limiting not controlling.

For me and IMO the "current state" of Temp limiting is an absolute significant advancement. I''m one that's "crapping in high cotton" with the SXmini M. Most notable to me recently sitting here vaping away vaping away reading forums, posting etc.. and all of a sudden GAHHHH Huge Dry Hit, I had forgotten I was vaping on my Kanthal box and ran out of juice because of my lack of attention. If the same thing had happened on the SXmini M "and it has", I would have received a weak hit at which point I'd have noticed I was out of juice. I know I need a second SXmini M so this doesn't happen anymore.

 

[BNEAT]

And I'm sorry, but anyone who tells you Nickel does not change the taste of your e-liquid (for the negative) over Kanthal, is well flat out lying.

Nickel does not change the taste of my e-liquid (for the negative)

 

[jazzvaper]

Nickel does not change the taste of my e-liquid (for the negative)

And...he ain't "lying"!!


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[dannyben]

Yea I later said I should have used unicycle vs bicycle when Tchavei gave me a hard time. At any rate the "current state" is really subjective for so many reasons, the person's ability to build with different wire, different atty connections, static resistance, 510 connections, atty airflow, the coil itself, there's just so many variables that some will be overwhelmed and will have ongoing problems while others will be "crapping in high cotton" And yea it's limiting not controlling.

For me and IMO the "current state" of Temp limiting is an absolute significant advancement. I''m one that's "crapping in high cotton" with the SXmini M. Most notable to me recently sitting here vaping away vaping away reading forums, posting etc.. and all of a sudden GAHHHH Huge Dry Hit, I had forgotten I was vaping on my Kanthal box and ran out of juice because of my lack of attention. If the same thing had happened on the SXmini M "and it has", I would have received a weak hit at which point I'd have noticed I was out of juice. I know I need a second SXmini M so this doesn't happen anymore.

LOL. You "forgot" you were using a different mod than he SXmini M? And why would you even be using it/kathal anyway if the Nickel TC is so great?

Come on..... Do you run out of fuel in your car often too? Drippers are one thing, but how hard is it to look inside your tank and see you are running out of juice and refill. Yes, Its a nice gimmicky option to have. but obviously -- as you just admitted to using a different device with kanthal -- not the reason to give up kanthal or other mods.

 

[druckle]

Nickel does not change the taste of my e-liquid (for the negative)

I don't necessarily think that nickel changes the taste of my vape for the negative but I do think it is different than kanthal. Of course every little thing I change (device/atomizer, airflow, power settings, wire type/wire diameter, coil configuration, etc.) changes the vape. The point I think is that we have a new technology that improves the potential safety and eventually the convenience of vaping and we will all learn to adjust all factors to our taste as we explore. Nothing wrong with that at all.

 

[dannyben]

Nickel does not change the taste of my e-liquid (for the negative)

And...he ain't "lying"!!

HAHAHAHA.... Can you tell me where you got this MAGIC nickel from then? I'd sure love a spool.

 

[dannyben]

The point I think is that we have a new technology that improves the potential safety and eventually the convenience of vaping and we will all learn to adjust all factors to our taste as we explore. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Agreed, and very well said!

 

[Vlad1]

Nickel does not change the taste of my e-liquid (for the negative)

Some posters you just have to /ignore as they will persist in providing the forum with inaccurate or false information then when questioned will only attack the one questioning.

LOL. You "forgot" you were using a different mod than he SXmini M? And why would you even be using it/kathal anyway if the Nickel TC is so great?

Come on..... Do you run out of fuel in your car often too? Drippers are one thing, but how hard is it to look inside your tank and see you are running out of juice and refill. Yes, Its a nice gimmicky option to have. but obviously -- as you just admitted to using a different device with kanthal -- not the reason to give up kanthal or other mods.

Yes I use two devices daily, due to vapors tongue I switch flavors frequently, And no I don't look at my tank level persistently when I'm busy, not really that uncommon. Perhaps if you read a bit you'll see it's pretty common. And the reason I use kanthal in that device is because it's not temp limiting. Pretty simple.... And also why I stated I needed a second SXmini M.

And no need for idiotic or insulting posts. Don't really see where you contributed anything there.

 

[Bikenstein]

I'm always running the Delta 2 low on juice. You can't see your level well unless it's in bright light and it being black doesn't help. I don't worry about it on the Mini.

 

[dannyben]

I'm always running the Delta 2 low on juice. You can't see your level well unless it's in bright light and it being black doesn't help. I don't worry about it on the Mini.

yes...there are certain tanks like the D2 that you can not see in easily and why i mentioned drippers. A plus to have if using one of these.

Some posters you just have to /ignore as they will persist in providing the forum with inaccurate or false information then when questioned will only attack the one questioning.

So you elect to attack me when questioned? You just proved your own point on yourself!

Yes I use two devices daily, due to vapors tongue I switch flavors frequently, And no I don't look at my tank level persistently when I'm busy, not really that uncommon. Perhaps if you read a bit you'll see it's pretty common. And the reason I use kanthal in that device is because it's not temp limiting. Pretty simple.... And also why I stated I needed a second SXmini M.

So.... you can look at your device on the table/desk but not see the tank on it? It doesnt just go "poof". You see the liquid is starting to run low.

And its you who is saying this is the be all end all device/technology. But yet you prefer to run two devices (one you claim is much inferior), charge two sets of batteries, etc....rather then just have two nickel builds in two tanks and simply switch the atty on your M class? Or use a dripper that you can change liquids on the fly if you suffer from VT frequently. And you want to talk about contributing and credibility?

 

[tchavei]

This is not my fight but I've ran dry on my erlp more than once... Actually like every couple of days.

Yes, yes I'm distracted but I really don't notice when I finish a tank [emoji14]

Regards
Tony

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[WideO]

Not interested in a fight but for me I don't have a problem with the taste of NI200, provided I give it a quick clean in the UC before coiling.

I also accidentally empty my tanks when I'm busy & concentrated on whatever I'm doing at the moment.

 

[BNEAT]

HAHAHAHA.... Can you tell me where you got this MAGIC nickel from then? I'd sure love a spool.

If this sucks so badly for you, then why exactly are you posting in here? We're all enjoying the hell out of this technology.

 

[Quantum Mech]

I have noticed a taste difference with Ni and was not sure if it was just me so needed to prove it
Have two STM that I filled with same juice, one built with nickel the other kanthal
Vaped on the Ni and then switched to the kanthal and instantly noticed the kanthal was much better tasting

Its not all bad news though as followed Tony's lead a few pages back and now read the Ti safety thread from start to finish and I am sold
Looking forward to the clean taste am used to and still keeping the tc option alive
With the added bonus of pretty blue n gold coils

Edit : I should add though that I can taste flavour notes with Ni that I was not getting with Kanthal

 

[jazzvaper]

Edit : I should add though that I can taste flavour notes with Ni that I was not getting with Kanthal

And if you're in this game for flavor that is no small difference.



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