SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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Just put a fresh Samsung in 2100 mah wonder if that could be the issue I know that Yihi recommends 2500 mah


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I don't think the software and firmware update for the M class has been issued yet (could be wrong--I know it's due out soon). If you use the ones for the S I think you can brick your device. I'd recommend that you wait/read before trying anything with the firmware on the M class so you're sure not to make a mistake.
True, don't do it! They say it will be out before the end of the month but it has not yet been posted.

btw... I love the gravity sensor but when switching menu options you need to be sure the unit is upright otherwise you will be using the gravity sensor to select your choices unknowingly. If you get used to doing that you might like it but the new release supposed to be able to disable the gravity sensor.
 

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For anyone in the UK, I use Cloud 9 for all my vape gear now. They have proven a to be a first class store and do not sell any type of clones. I think they are waiting for the next batch of Ms before they get anymore.

As for my M class and my problems with my kayfuns. They are still a little funky. But the steam tuners spring update has near fixed my problems. I now make a simple 5 wrap and try for the 0.65 and it's working. Well kinda. It is so easy to loose it's resistance. I now know when this happens as the vape goes light. So I take off my tank, play around and put it back. Seems there is a calibration memory issue I hope they fix with a patch. I sometime get a dry coil warning but when I open the deck up all seems fine. Put it back and it works again. So there is some connection issues. Wish they unified the 510 systems.

However! I am soooo happy. I am glad I have the M too. It is by far the only mod I use now. I have my S sitting there looking at me all funny like....

Again, thank all of you who helped me get through the learning curve. Much appreciated! Have a cool weekend all :)

I have the same problem with the GT2 also.. Dry coil error when all looks fine.. Thought I was the only one..
My KF4 is actually the most reliable atty I have so far.. More so with the steam tuners part OR the gold spring(they dun fit together;( ) had a hard time try not to get another!
Anyway the error comes and go, not big deal as long as you carry another backup mod(I do)..
 

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I don't think those silicone covers on Ginger Vapes are the ones from YiHi. Perry at Varitube said he wasn't expecting them till mid June.

I don't believe he represented them as being from yihi. Just that they were silicone sleeves to fit the M class. Just as jwraps sleeves you put on your M as not from yihi or the batteries you put in them are not too.

I ordered one for mine. And if I like the yihi's better when it's available i'll order one of them too. Its only $10 and if it even protects from one scratch or dent in the extra month or so I'd need to wait well worth the $10.
 

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I don't believe he represented them as being from yihi. Just that they were silicone sleeves to fit the M class. Just as jwraps sleeves you put on your M as not from yihi or the batteries you put in them are not too.

I ordered one for mine. And if I like the yihi's better when it's available i'll order one of them too. Its only $10 and if it even protects from one scratch or dent in the extra month or so I'd need to wait well worth the $10.
Yep I think the ones from YiHi are more money, don't know if there is any other difference. The only thing I don't like about them is they cover up the beauty of this mod in my opinion. The SXm is a great looking mod. The Jwraps just enhance it. The sleeves definately serve their purpose though.
 

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And as far as the different brands, seems to me to be like the subtanks. One company came out with them now there are 100 of them. Everybody has their opinions about the differences but for me the SXmini M is a fantastic device. I haven't been so impressed by a mod since the first Provari came out.
 

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Yep I think the ones from YiHi are more money, don't know if there is any other difference. The only thing I don't like about them is they cover up the beauty of this mod in my opinion. The SXm is a great looking mod. The Jwraps just enhance it. The sleeves definately serve their purpose though.

Very true. I did notice pics posted of other sleeves (don't know if they were official or not) that had cutouts for the fire and +/- buttons. I would think these are better or offer more protection from dust/damage being covered. And it's not like yihi is making them themselves. They might even be buying theirs from the same place?

I agree the wraps are nicer. But (and silicone sleeves might too -- especially if really tight) "wonder" with the finish issues that some have had if the sticker will adhere and pull the finish right off and if it will leave evidence that it was installed and void the warranty?
 
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So, I bought my SX mini M a little less than 24 hours ago and Im really enjoying it (as mentioned, using the Kanger sub tank with a .126 nickel coil using the rebuildable section). 18 watts at 432 degrees, oh delicious one, you are so tasty.

The 'critiques' that have been mentioned dont seem to be a big deal for me (battery cover, gravity sensor - although the gravity sensor should operate with the device on its side (horizontal) and tilting left or right, and the menu system - as long as people understand that the 'up' button is your 'enter' button (in most cases).

A critique (and frankly, a bizarre oversight) Im not seeing is that the memory doesnt seem to store temperature, only joules, which is odd because I dont really care what joules is set for as it only affects ramp up time, which I think the soft, standard, powerful, and powerfu+ is sufficient for.

Temp control isnt just some weird new feature, its going to be the final replacement for watts and I see the day when we have watts as a thing of the past, just as we do with variable voltage, which is great because in the end, we the end user shouldnt have to know about ohms law and all that nonsense, we should be just setting a temperature and going.

Imagine how much simpler the menu system on the SXMini would be if you had one adjustment, you use the up and down buttons to set your temp. Oh, the days of a simple and easy to use menu might actually be in the very near future.
 

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So, I bought my SX mini M a little less than 24 hours ago and Im really enjoying it (as mentioned, using the Kanger sub tank with a .126 nickel coil using the rebuildable section). 18 watts at 432 degrees, oh delicious one, you are so tasty.

The 'critiques' that have been mentioned dont seem to be a big deal for me (battery cover, gravity sensor - although the gravity sensor should operate with the device on its side (horizontal) and tilting left or right, and the menu system - as long as people understand that the 'up' button is your 'enter' button (in most cases).

A critique (and frankly, a bizarre oversight) Im not seeing is that the memory doesnt seem to store temperature, only joules, which is odd because I dont really care what joules is set for as it only affects ramp up time, which I think the soft, standard, powerful, and powerfu+ is sufficient for.

Temp control isnt just some weird new feature, its going to be the final replacement for watts and I see the day when we have watts as a thing of the past, just as we do with variable voltage, which is great because in the end, we the end user shouldnt have to know about ohms law and all that nonsense, we should be just setting a temperature and going.

Imagine how much simpler the menu system on the SXMini would be if you had one adjustment, you use the up and down buttons to set your temp. Oh, the days of a simple and easy to use menu might actually be in the very near future.
Well one of the things the update is going to take care of is locking the gravity sensor so that won't be a problem I think one of the bugs they are talking about that is going to be fixed is after you set the resistance and hit the fire button resistance comes up again. Also supposed to have some sort of a battery saver which would also be good but I am getting almost a whole day on my battery but I am using 3 of them.
 

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So, I bought my SX mini M a little less than 24 hours ago and Im really enjoying it (as mentioned, using the Kanger sub tank with a .126 nickel coil using the rebuildable section). 18 watts at 432 degrees, oh delicious one, you are so tasty.

The 'critiques' that have been mentioned dont seem to be a big deal for me (battery cover, gravity sensor - although the gravity sensor should operate with the device on its side (horizontal) and tilting left or right, and the menu system - as long as people understand that the 'up' button is your 'enter' button (in most cases).

A critique (and frankly, a bizarre oversight) Im not seeing is that the memory doesnt seem to store temperature, only joules, which is odd because I dont really care what joules is set for as it only affects ramp up time, which I think the soft, standard, powerful, and powerfu+ is sufficient for.

Temp control isnt just some weird new feature, its going to be the final replacement for watts and I see the day when we have watts as a thing of the past, just as we do with variable voltage, which is great because in the end, we the end user shouldnt have to know about ohms law and all that nonsense, we should be just setting a temperature and going.

Imagine how much simpler the menu system on the SXMini would be if you had one adjustment, you use the up and down buttons to set your temp. Oh, the days of a simple and easy to use menu might actually be in the very near future.
Oh and another thing you might try is 28awg NI200 6-7 wrap 3mm comes out about .08 and the device seems to work even better there. I personally have not had that much luck with the .065 build with 28 looses flavor and with 26 too warm for me personally. Just a thought. When I say 6-7 it is 6 on the top side 7 on the bottom. Works really well for me on the STM easier to place and I run it between 395 in the morning to 410 in the afternoon 14J in the morning 16-18 in the afternoon. But that's just me everyone finds their own level that they like.
 
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Very true. I did notice pics posted of other sleeves (don't know if they were official or not) that had cutouts for the fire and +/- buttons. I would think these are better or offer more protection from dust/damage being covered. And it's not like yihi is making them themselves. They might even be buying theirs from the same place?

I agree the wraps are nicer. But (and silicone sleeves might too -- especially if really tight) "wonder" with the finish issues that some have had if the sticker will adhere and pull the finish right off and if it will leave evidence that it was installed and void the warranty?
If you are talking about the warranty on the finish, I was lucky there I got the wraps on before there was any type of damage. My S on the other hand isn't flaking but the paint is wearing off really fast where I hold it when I say really fast it is like 5 months or more. Will probably put a wrap on it too. I also have thought about getting the sleeves just for further protection. The wraps do not really protect from a drop or something like that and I really like the looks of the Carbon Fiber. I found if I use a metal finger nail file very fine I can smooth the edges so they don't feel so sharp and I have a smooth metal side on one that works really good on the seam after heating it a little with a hair dryer. They came out really good and my wife was able to wrap both of them in about 30-45min. I really didn't think I would like them because of the seam and the fact that they go nearly to the edge but they look really good.
 
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I don't think those silicone covers on Ginger Vapes are the ones from YiHi. Perry at Varitube said he wasn't expecting them till mid June.

I asked Ginger Vaper about them. They are not from YiHi, but they are stocking them because people have been asking for a silicone sleeve. They also plan to stock the YiHi sleeve when it comes out, but so far they haven't received any info about when to expect them or price.
 

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I got an SX Mini M class yesterday after about a 3 hour test run.
I read through this thread since yesterday afternoon and have learned alot. :toast:

I have 3 ProVari 2's and 3 P3's and enjoy their full power delivery down to empty.
I totally enjoy my new addition and only added it because of months of stellar SX S reviews.
I have noticed the output drops off at about 3.5V on the SX mini and that's acceptable.
I'm using a Subtank mini with 1.2 ohm OCCs at 25W & .5 ohm OCCs at 27.5-30W
I have been using OCCs on my P3s at ~17.5W +1 boost.
I chain vape constantly so that's what they could keep up with.
Higher watts = more nic delivered = less frequent tokes = wicking can keep up with me - go figure

I have 4 Sammy 25R's OTW and I'm using new AW 2200 IMRs and older 2000mah for now.
How many joules delivered should I expect from 2200-2500mah batteries?
I swapped the last (older 2000mah) battery out at 3.45v and only ~18000.0J delivered.
That's low right? Means that battery's lifespan is about done?

Thanks
 
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I got an SX Mini M class yesterday after about a 3 hour test run.

Congrats! I'm sure you're going to love it! What color did you get?

How many joules delivered should I expect from 2200-2500mah batteries?
I swapped the last (older 2000mah) battery out at 3.45v and only ~18000.0J delivered.
That's low right? Means that battery's lifespan's about done?

Thanks

I can only tell you my experience, I'm sure others will chime in.

I use the LG HE4 batteries. I generally get right around 24,000-25,000 joules if I let it go completely dead. However, as you mentioned, shortly before it goes completely dead, the hits become noticably weaker... I generally replace the batteries once the draw gets weaker, which I believe is around 23,000J...

Hope this helps! ;)
 

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Congrats! I'm sure you're going to love it! What color did you get?

Grey/silver - I like black cars, t-shirts, electronics, etc but this dark grey is the next best thing :thumb:

I use the LG HE4 batteries. I generally get right around 24,000-25,000 joules if I let it go completely dead. However, as you mentioned, shortly before it goes completely dead, the hits become noticably weaker... I generally replace the batteries once the draw gets weaker, which I believe is around 23,000J...

Hope this helps! ;)

So maybe 18000 isn't so bad for 2000mah AW's

It seems that mah->joules translates fairly well. Should we expect ~30000J from 3000mah dja think?
 

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I was getting ~50ml+ good use with most of my flavors in 40/60 PG/VG with OCCs at 17.5W
Should I expect a substantial difference at 25-30W?

I'm clearly missing something here! You're saying you can vape 50ml (that's a gazillion tank refills) on ONE battery? I have VTC4s and old VTC5s, and I get pretty much one tankful (3-4 mls) out of a single battery charge on my IPV mini 2 or Kbox at 18-25 watts.
 

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I'm clearly missing something here! You're saying you can vape 50ml (that's a gazillion tank refills) on ONE battery? I have VTC4s and old VTC5s, and I get pretty much one tankful (3-4 mls) out of a single battery charge on my IPV mini 2 or Kbox at 18-25 watts.

50ml through an OCC coil. Flavor goes away, burnt hits go up after about 50ml.
 
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