I think dual coils are going to be popular with Ti in order to get the resistance down in the lower ranges.
SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)
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Thanks All for the suggestions and all the General R&D info since I threw in the towel last night. Some busy Betas last night...
Thought about it as I Brain Foddered on CN Adult Swim last night and wondered about 0.43 being too high for Ti TC on the SX. Gonna add another Coil built same and go to Dual which should put me at around 0.21 and well within the TC Range (I assume).
Report back afterward. Hopefully that's it. We shall see.
Thought about it as I Brain Foddered on CN Adult Swim last night and wondered about 0.43 being too high for Ti TC on the SX. Gonna add another Coil built same and go to Dual which should put me at around 0.21 and well within the TC Range (I assume).
Report back afterward. Hopefully that's it. We shall see.
As I was told by another here on ECF,,,
Awesome Source for Ti Wire on ebay; Unkammen Supplies in Rolla, MO sells on Easy.
Pure Titanium Wire 100% Guarantee Specific by UnkamenSupplies
Wire is $9.95 + $3 shipping. Length varies by Gauge for that price (40' of 28 ga, 35' of 26 GA, & so on). They sell Gauges from 14 to 32.
Got some 28 in from them yesterday and just ordered some 26.
Good Stuff and mails out quickly.
Time to add the 2nd Coil and get this Issue solved and the Ti TC Party Rockin & Vapin'
(please vaping Karma.....)
Awesome Source for Ti Wire on ebay; Unkammen Supplies in Rolla, MO sells on Easy.
Pure Titanium Wire 100% Guarantee Specific by UnkamenSupplies
Wire is $9.95 + $3 shipping. Length varies by Gauge for that price (40' of 28 ga, 35' of 26 GA, & so on). They sell Gauges from 14 to 32.
Got some 28 in from them yesterday and just ordered some 26.
Good Stuff and mails out quickly.
Time to add the 2nd Coil and get this Issue solved and the Ti TC Party Rockin & Vapin'
(please vaping Karma.....)
well, I set it for Ti mode and locked the resistance in on three different atty's. Am I missing a step? Has anyone else done a cotton burn test?
Since we know cotton singes at approximately 410°, we have a crude method to check the calibration on these temp limiting devices. Instead of guessing, it would be helpful if a few others did a cotton burn test with Ti to see what happens. As I stated before, I had to set my temp to 535° before I saw any singeing. I started at 410° and did three five second bursts, then checked the cotton. I raised the temp by 10° and rechecked until I started seeing singeing.
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Well, added the 2nd 6/5 wrap, 28 GA, 2.35mm ID, and SUCCESS!
So, the TC Ti Firmware on the SX must indeed be coded at a .3 ohm Max.
Thanks much for cosigning that Theory 2legs.
Went on and ordered some 26 GA from Unkammen as I know the Lemo 2 single Coil set up will require larger than 28. 26 on a 2.5 or a 3mm ID should be just right.
The SX started reading it at 0.224. After some firing and tweaking on the J and Temp Settings, recalibrated and she read 0.254. After some more tweaking, it then recalibrated itself at 0.265. Again and 0.292.
Checked Post Screw tightness (they were good) and checking Coils for discoloration (no abnormal discoloration),
Fired some more and it appears to be settling down to around 0.280.
Then,,, after all that foolishness, I remembered it must be done when it's at Room Temp so all that was Bull and a waste. Please disregard. I'll come back to that.
Follow-up: as expected it did re-Cal itself to 0.234 so no Issues with Ohm Calibration that I can tell. I expected it to raise a tad from the initial 0.224 after a few firings as others have experienced.
Anyways, I realized quickly that on the El Cabron (or probably any RDA), time to definitely drop the Nic to at least 12 from 18. It's a Killer! Another plus for the SX, Ti and TC-forcing me to wean further off the Nic. Will mix what I got with some 6 and Lean it out. Imagine the Lemo 2 in route will yield the same Necessity.
After messing around with Settings Combos, settled on 360* F & 30 J firing on the Standard Setting. Imagine that Preference will change once I am on lower Nic. But for now dripping the 18 50/50 Liquid, she is purring like a kitten crossed with a small Dragon and the Flavor, although "different" is Nice for sure. Could be Psychosomatic but it does seem to be "Purer".
The Test Firmware appears to be working as it should be. Watching the Temp vary Setting the SX at 360*, it is ranging from @ mid 340's to high 370's.
Thanks again to all.
So, the TC Ti Firmware on the SX must indeed be coded at a .3 ohm Max.
Thanks much for cosigning that Theory 2legs.
Went on and ordered some 26 GA from Unkammen as I know the Lemo 2 single Coil set up will require larger than 28. 26 on a 2.5 or a 3mm ID should be just right.
The SX started reading it at 0.224. After some firing and tweaking on the J and Temp Settings, recalibrated and she read 0.254. After some more tweaking, it then recalibrated itself at 0.265. Again and 0.292.
Checked Post Screw tightness (they were good) and checking Coils for discoloration (no abnormal discoloration),
Fired some more and it appears to be settling down to around 0.280.
Then,,, after all that foolishness, I remembered it must be done when it's at Room Temp so all that was Bull and a waste. Please disregard. I'll come back to that.
Follow-up: as expected it did re-Cal itself to 0.234 so no Issues with Ohm Calibration that I can tell. I expected it to raise a tad from the initial 0.224 after a few firings as others have experienced.
Anyways, I realized quickly that on the El Cabron (or probably any RDA), time to definitely drop the Nic to at least 12 from 18. It's a Killer! Another plus for the SX, Ti and TC-forcing me to wean further off the Nic. Will mix what I got with some 6 and Lean it out. Imagine the Lemo 2 in route will yield the same Necessity.
After messing around with Settings Combos, settled on 360* F & 30 J firing on the Standard Setting. Imagine that Preference will change once I am on lower Nic. But for now dripping the 18 50/50 Liquid, she is purring like a kitten crossed with a small Dragon and the Flavor, although "different" is Nice for sure. Could be Psychosomatic but it does seem to be "Purer".
The Test Firmware appears to be working as it should be. Watching the Temp vary Setting the SX at 360*, it is ranging from @ mid 340's to high 370's.
Thanks again to all.
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Wouldn't think so IMO but far from the SX Journeyman that many others here are.
Not until you desire to try Ti if you should ever decide to.
But he could use the firmware update to get to 75J in Ni mode?
Don't know, I don't own a sx. I just hang out here because the thread is cooler than the dna one.
Regards
Tony
Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.
I have the desire, but not the wire. Figure the beta or test firmware would be official by the time it showed up anyways.
I wonder why no 75J mode for Ni200?
Well I got an answer sort of from YiHi about the resistance limits or where it was set for will post here
Dear Patrick
The resistance is 0.0035. coil 7-8 circles.
Best Regards
Fancy
I'm assuming this means .35 is what this is set at to be accurate.
Or it could mean that .35ohms is the upper limit. IDK Language barrier.
Dear Patrick
The resistance is 0.0035. coil 7-8 circles.
Best Regards
Fancy
I'm assuming this means .35 is what this is set at to be accurate.
Or it could mean that .35ohms is the upper limit. IDK Language barrier.
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I got a Ti coil up and going on the new sub tank mini V2. I am using the reo-grande 24G wire with 6 wraps with a 1.5 mm ID which sets at .17ohms. I started at 350 to test it out and ran a cotton test and saw nothing up to 420. With just pushing the button no pull it gets to around 380F and stays.
Vapor/flavor are good running it at 400F and it seems to be a cleaner Vape than Ni200 to me.
Vapor/flavor are good running it at 400F and it seems to be a cleaner Vape than Ni200 to me.
Ni200 runs at lower resistance than Ti or Kanthal A1, which also means it draws higher current
But doesn't it only have that lower resistance for a very short period of time? Once it heats up, it rises considerably.
I'm assuming the TCR of Ti rises less then Ni200. Maybe that's not the case?
Legs,
Fancy contacted me this morning wanting to know what I thought about the upgrade firmware. I was kind of surprised.
Anyway could you double check with her on that recommended resistance. Just assuming 0.35 from 0.0035 is kind of a quantum leap. I sure would like to know from the horses mouth what they really recommend.
Solute you for getting "hitcat" going.
Legs,
Fancy contacted me this morning wanting to know what I thought about the upgrade firmware. I was kind of surprised.
Anyway could you double check with her on that recommended resistance. Just assuming 0.35 from 0.0035 is kind of a quantum leap. I sure would like to know from the horses mouth what they really recommend.
Solute you for getting "hitcat" going.
Could rattle her cage a little and send her a note stating you set up your device as she suggested at the .0035Ω (it won't fire at that resistance)
pulled 146 amps and burnt up your device... what should you do now??? 
Could rattle her cage a little and send her a note stating you set up your device as she suggested at the .0035Ω (it won't fire at that resistance)
Well I may contact her if "Legs" doesn't. You joke about the 146 amps... you should have seen my batter bar when I tried 75 joules it looked like the second hand on a watch when firing the unit. I have no idea how much current it was pulling but my new VTC-5 had a hard time keeping up with the demand.
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