SXmini mod ... Yihi

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dravell

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Ah, good idea on installing the atty first. That is what I did, but it was good luck rather than intelligent foresight.

Its unfortunate YiHi tells you to do the exact opposite in the manual, although its an easy mistake. But yes, installing the atty first and then the battery will fix all your clearance woes.
 

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Yup, Ive loved the SX Mini since it was announced, and even I had that bias. Once it was released at 189 I said time and time again "This needs to be $140ish because its chinese and the body is costing them pennys" and the like....In fact I didnt buy one specifically for that reason. Then I continued reading the ongoing thread, bought it and realize oh how very wrong I was.
So I understand him thinking that, however im shocked he continues thinking that even after having it in hand.

I actually think I agree with him...at least from the example I've received. Mine isn't a $190 device with the blemishes that it has. Given that I've found several pictures on the Net with the same blemish, it seems to be a tooling/manufacturing issue for sure. If YiHi's QC allows for the blemishes as a matter of regular course, there is an issue with their production line and I don't feel like I've gotten value for my $$$.$$. If my rDNA40 shows up on Monday with a similar defect, it is going back even though I got it with the Cyber Monday discount.

Here is another example of another unit with the marking from a picture uploaded by TimboZero here on ECF:


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No, mine is darn near perfect construction wise. I have a minute gap where the sleeve connects against the frame on one side. And my Rose connects to the 510 with no gap.

I do think they will make an entirely new mod with 2 batts. I will be surprised if they don't. It won't be called the sx mini; it will likely have a different name.

That is the same minor imperfection I have .. and it seems that a few of them have this, so its something for Yihi to improve going forward. I think the frame and body weren't held perfectly together while installing the hex bolts on top and bottom. So its not a machining flaw, but rather a flaw in assembly which should be rather easy to resolve.

I think that they will also come with a brand new device in dual 18650, which is a no brainer really .. the new name is easy, SXMaxi .. done! :D
 

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Mine has a different imperfection from what I've seen so far in this thread...
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My firing button is also slightly off-centered.
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Still loving it overall, but I wanted a PERFECT one. ;)
 
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:laugh: yes, those extension tubes should immediately go to the scrap yard for recycling.

I think the sx mini is underpriced as well compared to the Hana, VS, ZNA, etc. Let's not encourage them to raise the price though. If anything, I think some of the others need to come down in price.


Agreed, I do think those other devices need to come down in price, most especially the Hana and the VS rDNA .. most especially those, but to each their own. I always thought the Hana Modz was such a tacky looking box thanks to that ugly, white Hana Modz logo on the front. :shock: Very cheap looking IMO. The Cloupor Hana clone is much nicer looking box, sans any logos.

I usually like logos, but only when they are done properly. I was worried that I wouldn't like the SXmini logo, but its done well so I don't think it detracts from the aesthetic. The SXmini is one of the classiest looking devices we have on the market in this price range, and the gray is super sharp, and classy looking. A brilliant mash up in style between the ZNA and Wapari IMO.
 

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Yup, Ive loved the SX Mini since it was announced, and even I had that bias. Once it was released at 189 I said time and time again "This needs to be $140ish because its chinese and the body is costing them pennys" and the like....In fact I didnt buy one specifically for that reason. Then I continued reading the ongoing thread, bought it and realize oh how very wrong I was.
So I understand him thinking that, however im shocked he continues thinking that even after having it in hand.

Well at least you were open to changing your opinions based on facts and reality. There are so many who really live their lives based on assumptions, and projections. China is, and has always been capable of producing high quality products. The biggest difference between China and US manufacturers is that China is more likely to knowingly allow a defect to leave their doors ... Why? Because they have an intense fear of loss, because they struggle more than we do to gain.

I see and experience this time and time again with Chinese manufacturers, and vendors a like. They all focus way more on what it is they stand to lose, as opposed what it is they stand to gain. They place profits before reputation, and this bass ackwards mentality keeps them in a place that doesn't earn them the respect, and professional standing that they desire.

I have empathy for them though, because this has a lot do with the culture, and most especially the government rule they live under. They are forced to sneak around to gain access to, and participate in many things that we all enjoy freely, and without second thought. Living this way deeply affects how they perceive, interact, and relate to the World around them. Just yesterday I was told that China was cut off from access to google .. google of all things? Now they have to scurry around on proxy IP's just to open their friggin gmail accounts .. that's deep.
 
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Well at least you were open to changing your opinions based on facts and reality. There are so many who really live their lives based on assumptions, and projections. China is, and has always been capable of producing high quality products. The biggest difference between China and US manufacturers is that China is more likely to knowingly allow a defect to leave their doors ... Why? Because they have an intense fear of loss, because they struggle more than we do to gain.

I see and experience this time and time again with Chinese manufacturers, and vendors a like. They all focus way more on what it is they stand to lose, as opposed what it is they stand to gain. They place profits before reputation, and this bass ackwards mentality keeps them in a place that doesn't earn them the respect, and professional standing that they desire.

I have empathy for them though, because this has a lot do with the culture, and most especially the government rule they live under. They are forced to sneak around to gain access to, and participate in many things that we all enjoy freely, and without second thought. Living this way deeply affects how they perceive, interact, and relate to the World around them. Just yesterday I was told that China was cut off from access to google .. google of all things? Now they have to scurry around on proxy IP's just to open their friggin gmail accounts .. that's deep.

Awsome awesome post. The ironic part of me saying what I had before is, Im also pretty outspoken on how well China can pump out super high quality product, I just wasnt listening to my own advice.
Ive spent probably...oh, $4000-5000 on a certain chinese made product that cost $350-700 each, and theyre indistinguishable from their $20,000+ counterparts except a couple technical differences. I KNOW China can produce a mean product. You are absolutely right on all those points though, and that will be a hard thing for them to get over.
 

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It shouldn't be too hard for YIHI to reject castings from their supplier....or are they having another company assemble under their name. Finally QC would still be by them.

Im not sure, I know the majority of the units are hand finished and assembled but id assume they are getting the castings third party as I doubt they have the capability of investment casting, being a chip manufacturer.
 

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to all those people who are upset because of some flaws on their sx mini. you need to take a different approach. let me explain. i was a jeweler for many years and sold many an expensive stone. while everybody wants something to be "flawless" the fact is there are virtually no "flawless" stones- nevermind that very few would be willing to pay for that quality even if it was available. so i took a different tact when showing and selling those pieces. you see folks, don't consider them flaws , they are "identifying characteristics". it is what makes your purchase unique and without peers. no other mod has the exact same markings as the one you just purchased. embrace the character of each and make it YOUR special mod. in fact, give it a name and you will soon love it and cherish it as your mod. others may have purchased the same mod at the same price but only you have the one in your hand. those "identifying characteristics" make it special and unique. and others only wish they could have one just like yours.
there, don't you feel better , knowing you actually own one-of-a- kind ?. hey, do not mock- this very approach allowed me to close many a sale and enabled a very early retirement. one which has allowed me to devote much time and money to vaping. it is the high-end equivalent of "when life gives you lemons then make lemonade" believe me, it works....
 
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to all those people who are upset because of some flaws on their sx mini. you need to take a different approach. let me explain. i was a jeweler for many years and sold many an expensive stone. while everybody wants something to be "flawless" the fact is there are virtually no "flawless" stones- nevermind that very few would be willing to pay for that quality even if it was available. so i took a different tact when showing and selling those pieces. you see folks, don't consider them flaws , they are "identifying characteristics". it is what makes your purchase unique and without peers. no other mod has the exact same markings as the one you just purchased. embrace the character of each and make it YOUR special mod. in fact, give it a name and you will soon love it and cherish it as your mod. others may have purchased the same mod at the same price but only you have the one in your hand. those "identifying characteristics" make it special and unique. and others only wieh they could have one just like yours.
there, don't you feel better , knowing you actually own one-of-a- kind ?. hey, do not mock- this very approach allowed me to close many a sale and enabled a very early retirement. one which has allowed me to devote much time and money to vaping. it is the high-end equivalent of "when life gives you lemons then make lemonade" believe me, it works....

I understand this in the context of hand-made jewelry and in precious stones, but I don't accept it on a mass produced electronic device that carries a premium price. Do you think someone buying a real Rolex would accept such flaws?

I don't accept that a vendor can claim that a flaw gives a piece a unique characteristic just so they can cover up shoddy workmanship. There are enough SXMini's with the exact same marks in the exact same place that it doesn't make it look unique, it makes it look like there was a lack of care.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I really love the device. I'm really trying hard to find a way not to send it back, but I refuse to delude myself into accepting the flaw as a sign of its inherent special value. Rather, I have to decide whether I can live with it or not. I know what my wife would say...she'd laugh at me for even noticing it in the first place. :)
 
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to all those people who are upset because of some flaws on their sx mini. you need to take a different approach. let me explain. i was a jeweler for many years and sold many an expensive stone. while everybody wants something to be "flawless" the fact is there are virtually no "flawless" stones- nevermind that very few would be willing to pay for that quality even if it was available. so i took a different tact when showing and selling those pieces. you see folks, don't consider them flaws , they are "identifying characteristics". it is what makes your purchase unique and without peers. no other mod has the exact same markings as the one you just purchased. embrace the character of each and make it YOUR special mod. in fact, give it a name and you will soon love it and cherish it as your mod. others may have purchased the same mod at the same price but only you have the one in your hand. those "identifying characteristics" make it special and unique. and others only wieh they could have one just like yours.
there, don't you feel better , knowing you actually own one-of-a- kind ?. hey, do not mock- this very approach allowed me to close many a sale and enabled a very early retirement. one which has allowed me to devote much time and money to vaping. it is the high-end equivalent of "when life gives you lemons then make lemonade" believe me, it works....

You pay for good quality you expect it. If they tell you it has flaws then fine its your choice. To sugar coat it like you do whats next a sticky fire button. Where do you draw the line:facepalm:
 

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I understand this in the context of hand-made jewelry and in precious stones, but I don't accept it on a mass produced electronic device that carries a premium price. Do you think someone buying a real Rolex would accept such flaws?

I don't accept that a vendor can claim that a flaw gives a piece a unique characteristic just so they can cover up shoddy workmanship. There are enough SXMini's with the exact same marks in the exact same place that it doesn't make it look unique, it makes it look like there was a lack of care.
it was "tongue -and -cheek". an attempt at humor and nothing more. if you are upset contact your vendor- i am sure yihi will make it right . i was just trying to inject a little humor but i should know by now that some people never either get and/or are in the mood for any humor, ever. get it exchanged but please, lighten up....
 

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it was "tongue -and -cheek". an attempt at humor and nothing more. if you are upset contact your vendor- i am sure yihi will make it right . i was just trying to inject a little humor but i should know by now that some people never either get and/or are in the mood for any humor, ever. get it exchanged but please, lighten up....

My apologies, I believe you are reading a tone in my response that was not intended.
 

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My apologies, I believe you are reading a tone in my response that was not intended.

you are correct- i thought you were jumping on me pretty good. now i need to lighten up!! no problems, no matter what i always try and keep it civil. no kidding, that worked very well in the jewelry business. not so much in mass production, i guess....

incidentally, your wife would be someone i would have made a killing with- where was she when i need her?
 
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