SXmini Q Class Powered by YiHi SX450 Chip Part 2
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I preordered one of these form VR For the 20% off & the 2 free cells 
Still a bit expensive but with the incentives not that bad. I expect a pretty well built mod, I have an M & thats what it is
Yihi has built up a good reputation with the S,M,ML & now the Q.
Do I expect a big huge step up from the ML class? No not really, Do I believe it does 200 watts on 2 18650,s No! Have times changed? Yes! is 200 for a mod to much, even a high quality good reputation mod? Yes! In todays market even the best mods sell for less than 200, & there is a great selection of good mods for less than 100.
IMO the Q will be a hard sell, there are a lot of fan boys, me included that will buy it just cause of the legacy. But today there are so many good choices for way less!
I truly think it will be a good high quality mod, also think there is better value for your money out there. Like the VT133! for 80 bucks!!
Still a bit expensive but with the incentives not that bad. I expect a pretty well built mod, I have an M & thats what it is Yihi has built up a good reputation with the S,M,ML & now the Q.
Do I expect a big huge step up from the ML class? No not really, Do I believe it does 200 watts on 2 18650,s No! Have times changed? Yes! is 200 for a mod to much, even a high quality good reputation mod? Yes! In todays market even the best mods sell for less than 200, & there is a great selection of good mods for less than 100.
IMO the Q will be a hard sell, there are a lot of fan boys, me included that will buy it just cause of the legacy. But today there are so many good choices for way less!
I truly think it will be a good high quality mod, also think there is better value for your money out there. Like the VT133! for 80 bucks!!
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The magnets might be a problem with early models. If SX Mini is smart they'll address this and use stronger glue. You should be able to buy different panels down the road and those should have the stronger glue on them (hopefully).
In my opinion the ML is as close to perfect as any mod/ chip can be.
I own every version made and although I like the Q I plan to add more ML's to my collection than Q class.
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I own every version made and although I like the Q I plan to add more ML's to my collection than Q class.
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Why would you expect more power on high end mods. 2 18650 batteries are going to have the same limit no matter what the mod cost. It defies logic to expect more from 2 18650 batteries just because it's a high end mod.
I didn't mean I expect more power from high end mods. That is supposed to mean I expect them not to over-spec them like cheaper mods do (you said 30 or so mods have the same 200 watt specs with 2 x 18650). I expect more honest/attainable specs from high end mods, like Evolv, Dicodes, and Yihi SX line. If you read the whole post, hopefully what I was trying to say will make sense.
Evolv specs their 2 x 18650 at 133 watts (66.5 watts per 18650). Dicodes specs theirs at 60-65 watts per single cell. Yihi use to spec their SX line at 75 watts per cell.
Cheaper mods tend to over-spec theirs at 100watts per cell.
I was saying I expect more attainable (honest) specs from higher end mods. In other words more integrity. I'm surprised Yihi decided to spec the Q the way cheaper mods do instead of the way they use to (75 watts per cell or 150 watts for the Q).
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The Q Class
is a good mod for me. It handles much better the autonomy of the batteries as SX350J-V2...no voltage drop on the Q Class,while I have on my home mad SX350J box.
The grip is ergonomic and it is lighter than the MLClass (ML = 1 batterie, Q = 2 batteries)
Much more autonomy with the QClass
I don't see a problem. YIHI is using the same specs as other Chinese manufactures. Just because they aren't following in the footsteps of Evolv isn't a problem to me. All I see are DNA fans looking to nitpick at the competition. No one vapes at 200 watts, so why complain that you can't vape all day at 200 watts on the same set of batteries? I think DNA fans just need to get over the fact that YIHI isn't Evolv and move on with your lives.
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Those companies that properly spec their devices within safe limits of batteries are mindful of quality and safety measures and those who don't are careless and put the end user's at risk. It matters not whether a quality device is a DNA or any other properly spec'd board. This is not about fans' of any specific brand but it is about proper, specific, and deliberately designing a board/device within safe limits. Any company not doing that tells me they didn't and don't care for safety nor the end users. Any China or US device that puts the end user in possible jeopardy is not "nitpicking" just one maker but calling out the design fatal flaws. If the shoe fits wear it whether it is a China company (or many China companies) or a US company (or many US companies)... It must also be stated that there are also some China companies that do design their products with safety in mind also and don't subscribe to 2 cell 200 watt devices.
All you say is you don't see a problem and all you see are DNA fans nitpicking the competition and all I see are those who will stand on the side of safety over hype no matter the mod maker.. Hype sells mods where properly designed devices help prevent injury.
New users and prospective customers deserve to hear both sides of this conversation and they can make their own decisions. No doubt the Q is a nice looking piece and is "eye candy" for the prospective customer but what's inside is much more important in my opinion.
With all this FDA stuff I hope they can at least regulate out unsafe devices no matter the national origin of them or the company making them.
Hopefully those who purchase a Q will vape it within the limits of the batteries and not the limits of the device.
Yihi SX Mini Q video as seen on their web site touts 209.40 watts.... they are proud of their disregard for safety.....
NOTICE THAT IT SHOWS : 5.82 VOLTS * 35.98 A = 209.40 WATTS
(this calculates out to have a 0.16176 ohm load)
Also note that they used 2 - 18650 Sony batteries for the test. Check out the spec's for any/all the Sony batteries and you decide if 35.98 A fits the bill.
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I guess this ''wattgate'' is only relevant for a really small number of us, I personally don't go higher than 70 - 80 watts with my builds. Therefore I'm in the safe zone anyway.
What bothers me is something else: all former Yihi products were flawless, both from a performance and craftsmanship perspective, why would they change this with the Q class? I mean, magnets falling off?
Aside from that, why go for a 22mm 510 deck? A lot of recent atomizers are 23-24mm at least, 25mm really becoming the norm! Basically all my current favourite atomizers (Griffin 25mm, Aromamizer supreme and so on) will look stupid on this mod due to the overhang...
What bothers me is something else: all former Yihi products were flawless, both from a performance and craftsmanship perspective, why would they change this with the Q class? I mean, magnets falling off?
Aside from that, why go for a 22mm 510 deck? A lot of recent atomizers are 23-24mm at least, 25mm really becoming the norm! Basically all my current favourite atomizers (Griffin 25mm, Aromamizer supreme and so on) will look stupid on this mod due to the overhang...
It's a known fact that at least 5% of all manufactured products have flaws. It's just a fact of life that some people will have problems with a product. It's easily redeemed by sending the product back for a exchange.
I couldn't tell you why YIHI choose to use a 22mm deck. I would need to see the mod in person to understand that. If there's room for a larger deck, then I think that was a big mistake on YIHI's part since newer tanks are coming out in larger sizes. I'm just guessing but maybe the deck could be changed.
@retird: Yes, maybe these chips should be hard capped to 120-130w when used in a 2 x 18650 setup but then again, I personally know no one who vapes at > 130w. I am a member of a large vaping community and the most extreme vapers here still keep it in this range, not to mention regular ones which stay way below the safe limit.
As for being a fan, I am both a Evolv and YIHI chips fan, doesn't mean anything. If any other company will release a chip to kill both Evolv and YIHI in terms of specs and reliability, I will become a fan of that as well.
However, this thread is about the new Q class mod, not the chip inside. I am sure the chip is great, but I have some concerns about the mod itself, hopefully it will live up to my expectations, can't be sure as I haven't received it yet.
Just as an observation, you can find good DNA200 mods in the $110-120 range, YIHI still asking towards $200 (if you live in Europe like me, it's in euros, so even more expensive) and this seems a rather bold approach in my opinion...
As for being a fan, I am both a Evolv and YIHI chips fan, doesn't mean anything. If any other company will release a chip to kill both Evolv and YIHI in terms of specs and reliability, I will become a fan of that as well.
However, this thread is about the new Q class mod, not the chip inside. I am sure the chip is great, but I have some concerns about the mod itself, hopefully it will live up to my expectations, can't be sure as I haven't received it yet.
Just as an observation, you can find good DNA200 mods in the $110-120 range, YIHI still asking towards $200 (if you live in Europe like me, it's in euros, so even more expensive) and this seems a rather bold approach in my opinion...
Your sound logic is falling on deaf ears
These folks think your attacking the device, when in fact your pointing out irresponsible marketing practises! Only in the vaping industry can you get away such false claims, in any other industry you would get sued for false advertising, at least, maybe even criminal negligence at best!Any company trying to sell you a 200 watt device that has a dual 18650 configuration is LYING to you Period! It is irresponsible & negligent on their part, & shouldn't be takin lightly
Thank You @retird for trying to educate these poor clueless soles, But my friend your warnings are falling on deaf Ears
BTW I bought a Q class mod, & think it is a good quality piece. However I DO NOT agree with their marketing tactics
I will be using it with in safe operating limits of 2 18650 cells
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Well I cancelled my preorder for the q class at the last minute. Even though I got it for 160 and the free batts it just wasn't worth it. If the mod weighed more and wasn't so tall I would be for it but since it weighs less then the ml I couldn't use it without it falling over all the time. My m and ml have served me well while I'm doing construction jobs but the solid feel helps them rest on things and I think the q class will tip over very easily. I know it sounds stupid to cancel because of that but it's a big thing for me to have a sturdy mod. Looks like I may get the sx flask or the hcigar 133. I hope everyone has good luck with the q class and hopefully the magnets falling out is only a isolated incident.
A mod has to suit your needs first & foremost! It could be the highest rated, most beloved mod on the market, if it's not for you , it's not for you
The VT133 @ ecig.com is a heck of a deal! I really don't expect to see it for that cheep for too long!
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