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One thing I read that I immediately reacted to..

30 Watts

Just no

As already mentioned you'll want to have that on any TC mod at 40+....

There's 2 ways of thinking of Watts when in TC mode (as a ceiling, OR as an initial setting - some mods will use this temporarily in conjunction with a preheat function...but I never used preheat - for reasons I won't get into a long diatribe about today), and I'll share my way of thinking...

I'm from the "it's a ceiling" school..as in the Watts I set for TC mode is the ceiling or limit for what the mod can use for Watts to reach my set temp.
Even more basically, it's the highest I would vape that coil in Watts mode (non-TC) PLUS a little headroom...i.e. i happen to know via monitoring that initially to hit my set temp of 200c, my mod will chuck 35 watts at the coil (this then drops to around 19 Watts to maintain the temp). So I set my Watts personally to 40 watts...this gives me the 35 watts I know I need, plus a little headroom should I need to up my set temp 5-10 degrees c. Ive never altered my set temps wildly (in fact I have a summer temp and a winter temp, and so I change my set temp twice a year) or by higher than 5/10 c...

Is there any harm in setting it higher/what if I can't or can't be bothered (or am not boring enough) to monitor it and set it as anally as you do?

No, the reason I do it this way is that way back in the mists of time when TC was new, not all mods were super accurate/efficient at TC (yes, even the early dna chips could do this), and you could find yourself thrown out if TC mode, and so if you suddenly got thrown out if TC mode back into wattage mode, and your wattage was set at 50/60+ watts, well...dragon's breath. Unpleasant. So my tendency to set just enough watts plus some headroom is a holdover from those days and habit. You're much much less likely to be thrown out of TC mode these days with the quality of chipsets, but some part of my reptilian brain still harbours The Fear

In general 50 watts generally out if the gate as a base watts setting for most folks for any TC mod for starters, and up as needed if you use higher set temps...you'll know if you need to increase...it will take ages (or at worst, never) to reach your set temp and bounce on TC mode...all these metrics easily spotted on a DNA mod connected to PC and using Escribe software of course

p.s. not that I've ever used or would use ceramic coils, but I wouldn't bother using then in TC mode for many reasons, some already covered. TC works at its best with diy coils

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One thing I read that I immediately reacted to..

30 Watts

Just no

As already mentioned you'll want to have that on any TC mod at 40+....

There's 2 ways of thinking of Watts when in TC mode (as a ceiling, OR as an initial setting - some mods will use this temporarily in conjunction with a preheat function...but I never used preheat - for reasons I won't get into a long diatribe about today), and I'll share my way of thinking...

I'm from the "it's a ceiling" school..as in the Watts I set for TC mode is the ceiling or limit for what the mod can use for Watts to reach my set temp.
Even more basically, it's the highest I would vape that coil in Watts mode (non-TC) PLUS a little headroom...i.e. i happen to know via monitoring that initially to hit my set temp of 200c, my mod will chuck 35 watts at the coil (this then drops to around 19 Watts to maintain the temp). So I set my Watts personally to 40 watts...this gives me the 35 watts I know I need, plus a little headroom should I need to up my set temp 5-10 degrees c. Ive never altered my set temps wildly (in fact I have a summer temp and a winter temp, and so I change my set temp twice a year) or by higher than 5/10 c...

Is there any harm in setting it higher/what if I can't or can't be bothered (or am not boring enough) to monitor it and set it as anally as you do?

No, the reason I do it this way is that way back in the mists of time when TC was new, not all mods were super accurate/efficient at TC (yes, even the early DNA chips could do this), and you could find yourself thrown out if TC mode, and so if you suddenly got thrown out if TC mode back into wattage mode, and your wattage was set at 50/60+ watts, well...dragon's breath. Unpleasant. So my tendency to set just enough watts plus some headroom is a holdover from those days and habit. You're much much less likely to be thrown out of TC mode these days with the quality of chipsets, but some part of my reptilian brain still harbours The Fear

In general 50 watts generally out if the gate as a base watts setting for most folks for any TC mod for starters, and up as needed if you use higher set temps...you'll know if you need to increase...it will take ages (or at worst, never) to reach your set temp and bounce on TC mode...all these metrics easily spotted on a DNA mod connected to PC and using Escribe software of course

p.s. not that I've ever used or would use ceramic coils, but I wouldn't bother using then in TC mode for many reasons, some already covered. TC works at its best with diy coils

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Ok, i understand thank you now, anyway i'm having too much pblm with tc mode and those coil so i'm gonna give up on this !

Last question : my coil (euc ceramic 0.5o) says that the range is 25-35w, does this mean i REALLY can't go higher ? 35w produce too cold vapor for me, what are the risk of using my coil at 37 or higher wattage ?
Is a 0.3 coil gonna produce a warmer vapor at 35w than a 0.5 ?
 
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I've used 92 for SS316L in my TCR setting in all my mods with a power setting at 10W and temp at 420F forever and never tried other values. In my Hcigar DNA75 Nano the temp shows 300F to 335F when I vape. Sometimes, it climbs to 389F. Obviously, something's not right. The vape's about right, but the temp reading is lower than with my other mods.

There's been issues with TC mode in the Hcigar DNA75 Nano. Maybe I need to pop the cover, do the star washer fix to prevent the board mounting screws from loosening, and tighten everything I see that has a slot or a Phillips head.
 

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I've used 92 for SS316L in my TCR setting in all my mods with a power setting at 10W and temp at 420F forever and never tried other values. In my Hcigar DNA75 Nano the temp shows 300F to 335F when I vape. Sometimes, it climbs to 389F. Obviously, something's not right. The vape's about right, but the temp reading is lower than with my other mods.

There's been issues with TC mode in the Hcigar DNA75 Nano. Maybe I need to pop the cover, do the star washer fix to prevent the board mounting screws from loosening, and tighten everything I see that has a slot or a Phillips head.
Needs way more watts....been mentioned by a few already in the thread, myself included

10 watts for 420f is bonkers. 40 watts +

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Most Eleaf mods I have have been spot on, except the IKoon, the only firmware that works right is V1.4, all others droop out of TC mode.
Arctic Fox addresses this. Why Eleaf hasn't fixed it themselves confounds me. There is something in the stock firmware that just cant handle the way Claptons and other multiwire coils respond to a certain wattage over a certain amount of time.

Arctic Fox and the tools you download with it also make compatible mods customizable to a degree found in mods costing 3x and 5x more.

If you have a Joyetech, Eleaf, Wismec or Vapor Flask mod and you don't run Arctic Fox on it, you might be missing out.
 
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