Temp control won't work with SS - DNA 200

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KenD

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What I don't get is that in these threads, you come in and say that you have no problem with SS for TC on your Mods. That's very nice and all, but what does that provide to the OP?

I've been informing new members or anyone with the questions about SS and TC and have been having trouble with TC and SS that if they are having issues, that they aren't alone. I provide my experience and explain what didn't work for me, but also what does work for me, so that the OP 1) knows he's not alone having trouble with TC, 2) might try again, something different, if he was using a single coil, he might go and try a dual coil and see if it works better for them.

You know, I've been vaping for 8 years, I've seen and used dozens upon of dozens of vaping devices, but I keep it simple and not a cloud chaser nor compete. I was rebuilding the old pre-ego era e-cigarettes (those one made to look and light up like a real cigarette), when every device and liquids had to be ordered from shady parts of the world, etc. I've been building sub-ohms coils for years now and DIY my own liquids for a while now, anyways, my point is, I could go on about how amazing I am like you've been doing but that doesn't help others.

I'd rather have the OP reply with more details, tell us about what he's done, tried, etc. and see what we can help him with, than have you and the likes come in, do nothing else than say "well it works for me!" tap each other on the back, swoon around the room and provide absolutely nothing of value.

I hope you don't see this as me being rude because that's not my point, it's simply that you should provide something of actual value or simply leave these threads about TC and SS alone... no?

The point is, I'm here to help others with my experience when I can, and I still ask questions too every so often.

But if you plan to come in these threads and simply say "single coils in SS works for me" it comes off as arrogant and insulting like that. Maybe if you explained how you build your coils, the gauge you use, the wraps, the settings on your mods, that might be productive. Note that I've checked many videos about SS building and if I am doing something wrong, I'd love, LOVE to figure it out and see what I've been missing all this time. But I've never had a single issue with any other coils I've built, including NI for TC, and like I said already, no problem with SS since I started doing dual coils.
The point is, if so many people get ss working without problems but you don't, you are doing something wrong. Make sure all the connections are tight and clean and that you're using good wire. It's highly unlikely that all my mods are exceptionally good and all of yours are exceptionally good. And as I've said, I'm no master builder. Have a closer look at what you might be doing wrong. Your "it just doesn't work" doesn't provide much help for the OP either.

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i find 28g SS316L works best in TC in both the kanger and now alien 220... i find it odd that a DNA is having issues with it, since they are supposed to be better boards than a kanger. i have been using anything from round, tiger, alien, to fused claptons, in single to quad coils with no issues. it's now the only wire i use because of its ability to be both wattage or TC. any chance you could try a smaller gauge?
 
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The point is, if so many people get ss working without problems but you don't, you are doing something wrong. Make sure all the connections are tight and clean and that you're using good wire. It's highly unlikely that all my mods are exceptionally good and all of yours are exceptionally good. And as I've said, I'm no master builder. Have a closer look at what you might be doing wrong. Your "it just doesn't work" doesn't provide much help for the OP either.

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And there are threads after threads about the same thing that others experience.

I don't nor ever dispute that many get it to work for them, I'm simply stating that many have had issues. I did, researched it, found those threads, saw what some figured out, the suggestions some gave.

I never say "just doesn't work", you appear to miss the rest to what I say (blinders?), which included what my interim solution was (to use dual coil setup).

Maybe some of you don't have the same taste buds I do and that burnt taste that I find I get with the small coils, you might consider it part of "normal" flavour, considering that most store bought liquids taste extremely chemical-ly to me. But then, with the dual coils, I don't taste it.

Maybe it's a question that I overheat the smaller coils because I don't find that they produce enough flavour and vape...

Lots of maybes, and this isn't a contest...
 

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I don't nor ever dispute that many get it to work for them, I'm simply stating that many have had issues. I did, researched it, found those threads, saw what some figured out, the suggestions some gave.

I never say "just doesn't work", you appear to miss the rest to what I say (blinders?), which included what my interim solution was (to use dual coil setup).

If you reread the OP original post, you'll notice they already are trying this with your interim solution, a dual coil setup. So the entire discussion around the difficulties of running a single coil build are irrelevant.They are also trying to run and configure this on a DNA device, so the troubleshooting steps are somewhat different than on non-DNA mods which you use. There are more tools to help the OP than for a typical non-DNA mod.

The OP needs to take a step back and try the factory SS316L profile the device came with. The Steam 316L might not be correct. Such things happen, especially if the coil material .csv is improperly entered. There is also a real time device monitor that can record all sorts of good stuff which can help spot all sorts of problems. With that information a more useful set of solutions can be offered, rather than attributing all this to some blanket SS problem that cannot be overcome by mere mortals.
 
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If you reread the OP original post, you'll notice they already are trying this with your interim solution, a dual coil setup. So the entire discussion around the difficulties of running a single coil build are irrelevant.They are also trying to run and configure this on a DNA device, so the troubleshooting steps are somewhat different than on non-DNA mods which you use. There are more tools to help the OP than for a typical non-DNA mod.

The OP needs to take a step back and try the factory SS316L profile the device came with. The Steam 316L might not be correct. Such things happen, especially if the coil material .csv is improperly entered. There is also a real time device monitor that can record all sorts of good stuff which can help spot all sorts of problems. With that information a more useful set of solutions can be offered, rather than attributing all this to some blanket SS problem that cannot be overcome by mere mortals.

Should we start debating on politics, religion and such? Just let it go already.. again, this isn't a contest.
 

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I've ordered stainless wire and another tank so I can switch from nickel to the stainless and I'm very interested in this post. I've experienced something very similar while working with nickel wire, the resistance is not within range and the unit puts it in the watts mode. To make matters worse it seems each manufacturer sets his own input limits for acceptable resistance values.
 
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