Terminator RA Tank

[dwcraig1]

@ sense Field, This has nothing to do what so ever with it leaking and maybe you trimmed your wicks just for the photos but if not then the next time you put in a new wick trim the ends of the wick even with that bottom o-ring because juice goes down there and it wicks out if your wicks reach it, but worry about that later.

 

[anavidfan]

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That was a photo taken spring disassemble...so that is why the mout piece is on it.

I think you've hit something here though...what I've noticed is that the firing post does not come out of the bottom centered...it's far over to one side.

I looked at the o-ring already... everything is fine with that...BUT...I image that there might be an issue with the center of the base. I will have to look at that.

What I can say is that my Terminator-C is not properly finished...two parts seem to have a texture as if they weren't finished after milling...groves running horizontal on the parts...so given that...it might be probable that this particular Terminator didn't get fully inspected/finished.

Im sure if you PM/ and or contact Stormys they will glady exchange it for you, no need to be unhappy, you should not have to settle. Stormys will take care of any defective items with no problems

 

[Sense Field]

Im sure if you PM/ and or contact Stormys they will glady exchange it for you, no need to be unhappy, you should not have to settle. Stormys will take care of any defective items with no problems

I was in contact with stormy before I posted she told me to come here for help.

Turns out...I'm going to get a replacement. All is good!

 

[JazzyTech]

I was in contact with stormy before I posted she told me to come here for help.

Turns out...I'm going to get a replacement. All is good!

I've heard Stormy is a reputable person, glad to hear it

 

[CloudBurst]

Thanks guys! If you have a problem, please contact me by email. I'm having a hard time keeping up with this thread. But, by all means...carry on. LOL

 

[LucidAce]

So I mentioned this in the Terminator Tips and Tricks thread, but it seemed nobody else was having this issue so I figured I'd mention it here too.

The top cap (using naming conventions established by Stormy's replacement parts listings) o-ring seems ever so slightly too large on my Terminator-C. I can't get the top cap to screw all the way down. Even after tightening it as much as possible there is still a small gap, and I can sort of tip the top cap from side to side a bit by pushing on one side or the other. Anybody else experiencing this with their Terminator or Terminator-C or have any ideas?

EDIT:

dwcraig1 has been helping me troubleshoot a bit (thanks again, for that), and I think we've all but ruled out user error. I shared a couple pictures with him to help us along so I'm going to put them here as well.

Here is a picture of tank cap and top cap with no o-ring installed.


Here is a picture of the fully assembled unit, including o-ring.


That's as tight as I can screw that top cap on, and I don't have any problems with grip etc. In that position it's loose enough that I am able to push/rock it from side to side, making it off-center just by pushing on one side or the other.

I'm certainly no expert, but it seems to me that I just might have gotten an o-ring that's just not quite the right size. Thoughts?

 

[Jellyfish]

I'm waiting for the Terminator-C that I ordered yesterday to arrive. In the meantime I've been reading this thread and watched Scott's video on the Ody build. In it, he said that he needed to flame the ceramic to get rid of a soapy taste, but I've seen no mention of that here. Do I need to do that or is it good to go after a washing?

 

[JazzyTech]

I flamed my first Terminator before use, but kind of hurried on the Term-C. I did notice and underlying taste that could have been soapy, but I'm not sure as it disappeared by the end of the first tank. If you don't have a torch, you can always use the heating element on a stove.

 

[dwcraig1]

I flamed my first Terminator before use, but kind of hurried on the Term-C. I did notice and underlying taste that could have been soapy, but I'm not sure as it disappeared by the end of the first tank. If you don't have a torch, you can always use the heating element on a stove.

Same here, what JazzyTech said.
The whole unit needs disassembled and washed due to cutting oil used during machining

 

[horton]

It's definitely a good idea to disassemble the whole unit and give it a wash in hot grease cutting soap and water, dry it, and then rinse it in isopropyl alcohol. Doing that gets all the crud and oils out. You want to carefully inspect all the threads to make sure there are no pieces of metal left that might cause problems. Having some "canned air" handy is very useful to get anything left out. Once all of this is done, you have a nice, clean unit that you won't have to worry about in terms of funky taste or threads locking up on you.
I'd also suggest you fire the ceramic insert using a propane torch. Heat it until it glows.... you aren't going to damage it.
With all that done, when you finally get the device coiled and wicked, you will have one of the best vapes you ever experienced.
There is a great video (think there is a link on Stormy's site) about making the coil and wick and assembling the device. I watched it several times and after that had no problems getting everything put together. Pay particular attention to how to get the mouthpiece set so you get the proper juice flow.
Hope this helps a little.

 

[JazzyTech]

I wrote in the Term-C post about my experience with cleaning the this unit. I cannot stress again just how important it is that you properly clean it before use. I washed it first in a bath of dishwashing detergent in a black bowl. wow... literally between 50-70 tiny particles of stainless steel had coated the bottom of the bowl, and that was before the alcohol rinse.

And it is certainly the best vape I've ever experienced! Not that I'm any consultant These are the RBAs/attys that I've use/used:
Vision Vivi Nova tank, mini, Stardust, CE 2-5s, Smoktech "R", Smoktech Hyper SRT II, AGA-Tiamat, AGA-Hydra, Terminator R/A, Terminator-C.

 

[jhjohnson123]

I can't believe how much juice the Terminator c holds. This atty is absolutely wonderful. I'm having a hard time deciding if I like this or my gennys better. GUESS I'LL ALTERNATE!!! LOL

 

[JazzyTech]

I can't believe how much juice the Terminator c holds. This atty is absolutely wonderful. I'm having a hard time deciding if I like this or my gennys better. GUESS I'LL ALTERNATE!!! LOL

It holds about 5ml. Maybe a bit more if you "top it off"...

CORRECTION: It will hold 6ml.

 

[LucidAce]

It holds about 5ml. Maybe a bit more if you "top it off"...

Unless my syringe is way off (freebie that came with some CE3s) I'm getting an easy 6ml in my Terminator-C. That's filling it with the tank cap off.

 

[JazzyTech]

Unless my syringe is way off (freebie that came with some CE3s) I'm getting an easy 6ml in my Terminator-C. That's filling it with the tank cap off.

You're right! I forgot that I already had about 1ml in the bottom of the tank the last time I filled it! Thanks for the correction I'm gettin' old and the mind's a weakening.. (snicker!)

 

[Sense Field]

Unless my syringe is way off (freebie that came with some CE3s) I'm getting an easy 6ml in my Terminator-C. That's filling it with the tank cap off.

Yep...6ml easy without filling through the collar.

 

[hippieben]

I made this video for the folks over on Reddit, but I figure I'll post it here too (mainly just because I don't feel like typing out a description of the leaking issues I've experienced). I believe this is what Sense was seeing, and it does seem like he had a dud device due to the manufacturing defects, but I believe the main cause of the issue stems from the manufacturing of the Terminator.

http://youtu.be/ft5U0h8TXKQ?t=2m58s

 

[anavidfan]

that is a totally normal fit, thats how my Term fits and thats how my Odysseus fits, its normal for it to have that little gap, if not it would leak, or might get screwed on so tight it might not come off.

 

[hippieben]

that is a totally normal fit, thats how my Term fits and thats how my Odysseus fits, its normal for it to have that little gap, if not it would leak, or might get screwed on so tight it might not come off.

I've got no problem with the gap, it's clearly part of how it works. Didn't mean for it sound like that was a knock on it. Some people (ZAP owners) might have an issue with it from a looks perspective. I don't think the positive pin needs to come out as far as it does, which is why I might look for a fatter o-ring at some point, but the connector and base are one piece so I'm not worried about the rigidity of it.

 

[dwcraig1]

And then there is what I have posted before about to negative wire being pinned under the locking ring that is causing this problem. The simple fix is to coil the negative wire around the wick in the area where the ceramic housing screws into the base, it works great for me.
The wire being under the ceramic housing ring is making the ring sit crooked which causes the mouth piece to sit crooked and the juice simply leaks through the gaps created by this. Since changing my grounding method I have no such leaks/flooding and my liquid control now seems to make a difference when I open or close it, before it was not that sensitive.

The Oddy version 1 has the same problem this is why version 2 and Penelope grounds in a different way.