~The Billet Box~ page 1559 continued...

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Bamrz

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Our next stock update will take place this Saturday, May 6th, at 8:30am mountain time. ( unless mini DD #2 has other plans but we'll hope for the best
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Yep, clone. I don't skimp when I get a mod I want, but on an atomizer, yea, I'll go with a decent looking clone, especially if it's something I'm not sure I'll like and use.

Sorry but I can't support clones... Hate em, loathe em, they make me wanna hurl! I'll get off the topic though as I can get rather obtuse when talking about the subject.. LOL
 

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Our next stock update will take place this Saturday, May 6th, at 8:30am mountain time. ( unless mini DD #2 has other plans but we'll hope for the best
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Good, maybe I can get a d/t, and maybe a Battler. Be nice if they have the bridges for Nauti coils.
 

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What is an A-tank? I only know of 3, the original clear faced, all plastic tank, the opaque delrin tank, and the glass faced Boro tank. Thanks!

My question, too, Bamz.

HB, might you post a pic of this A tank?

Actually I already posted about this when @Katdarling ask "HB" about them before . . .

Well - I guess Ya' can tell I'm not 'HB", but I thought I would jump-in to also let Ya' know that an "A-Tank" is the same as a "Boro Tank" - however it is made for the "Billet Box V4" . . .


BTW: They are made and sold by "DD" - The link above will take you directly to the page on the BB Website . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;)
 

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Hey all!

So I teased you with pictures of an atomizer that I modified to work with the A-tank.

I have since been in touch with the maker of this atomizer, and I've got some questions.

A main concern is the required purchase of the A-tank itself.

Is the additional cost of the A-tank prohibitive to the purchase of the atomizer?

Will people be thrown off by having to buy a special tank for this atomizer?

Apparently BBV didn't think so, as they created and released this option.

That being said, if this atomizer could deliver an airflow range that satisfies both MTL and DTL, would that be enticing enough to warrant the extra cost of buying the A-tank?

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If the A-tank becomes the chosen chariot for this atomizer, there would be little redesign required.

They would only be faced with the goal of adding airflow control.

If the standard Boro tank is chosen, the atomizer may need to be redesigned from the ground up...which delays release, and potentially sacrifices features/functions of the current design.

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Any thoughts here?

I know a lot of you are MTL users, but there are some DTL peoples here too!

I'm kind of an oddball (goes without saying) in that I can DTL a Kayfun Lite...so a tighter DTL draw does not bother me, nor does an airy MTL draw.

But I'm looking for input from those that are firmly planted on one side of the fence, or the other.

How airy is too airy for an MTL?

How tight is too tight for a DTL?

Can you provide your experience with other atomizers, especially those created for the BBox?

I know vaping is 100% subjective, and everyone finds vastly different things to their own liking.

Thanks in advance!

I really think we are on the verge of helping an established vape company make an atomizer that satisfies a wider range of needs for BBox users, since the current offerings seem to sway too far to either end of the spectrum. (Based on what I've gathered here.)

If the modder is planning on releasing a $125+ atty then they should not require a different tank. If the cost of said atty plus an A Tank would be less than or equal to other replacement atty's they have a good thing going. That of course is if it performs as good or better than the current offerings.

Now since I already have two A Tanks, BRING IT!
 

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If the modder is planning on releasing a $125+ atty then they should not require a different tank. If the cost of said atty plus an A Tank would be less than or equal to other replacement atty's they have a good thing going. That of course is if it performs as good or better than the current offerings.

Now since I already have two A Tanks, BRING IT!

Duly noted!

Good point.

If the atomizer was priced around $80-100 that would put it at $160 tops, which is the higher end of the spectrum for most of these BBox atomizers.

The other worry (as @hobbes4 mentioned) is that a complete redesign, to work in the standard Boro, might cost so much in R&D that the end user would end up bearing in retail price.

As it stands now, the atomizer is an airy MTL, or restricted DTL, depending on how you look at it.

The current design would require minimal revision, resulting in a lower retail price...which may allow it to compete price-wise with the need to buy the $65 A-tank.
 

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Actually I already posted about this when @Katdarling ask "HB" about them before . . .



BTW: They are made and sold by "DD" - The link above will take you directly to the page on the BB Website . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;)

Sorry Uncs...... sometimes life gets in the way of remembering all things vape, and I've not earned my frequent flyer miles on this thread over the last several months.

I did find them on the BBV site, and posted that above.

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I see that BB has the BB-OCCbridge up. I was going to get the bridge that uses the Nauti coils, as I already use these coils in an RTA. Can someone give me a quick comparison on these two. Are the KangerTech coils more expensive than the Nauti? Thanks.
 

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Just to add another vote/opinion to the discussion at hand, the need to purchase a A-Tank separately wouldn't dissuade me from considering a new atty offering. In fact, it seems reasonable to me to have at least one tank per atty irrespective of the type of tank needed to house said atty.

One question I do have is if the bridge that is included with the A-Tank is necessary for the new atty? If not, it might be nice to be able to purchase the A-Tank minus those parts and potentially reduce the additional expense but right now that doesn't seem to be an option. Perhaps an idea however.

Regardless, I wouldn't mind having the option to use the Atlantis family of coils, to which there are many, so purchasing at least one A-Tank is something I'd probably consider doing with or without the new atty.
 

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Just to add another vote/opinion to the discussion at hand, the need to purchase a A-Tank separately wouldn't dissuade me from considering a new atty offering. In fact, it seems reasonable to me to have at least one tank per atty irrespective of the type of tank needed to house said atty.

One question I do have is if the bridge that is included with the A-Tank is necessary for the new atty? If not, it might be nice to be able to purchase the A-Tank minus those parts and potentially reduce the additional expense but right now that doesn't seem to be an option. Perhaps an idea however.

Regardless, I wouldn't mind having the option to use the Atlantis family of coils, to which there are many, so purchasing at least one A-Tank is something I'd probably consider doing with or without the new atty.

As of now, the current design requires the included bridge...so it's a win/win!
 

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I'd not be interested in an atty that needs a special tank...

And that's what is being decided by the maker.

If the majority of people wouldn't be up for buying the A-tank in order to use the atomizer, then the atomizer must be redesigned from the ground up, to use the standard Boro.

That's because the atomizer, as it exists at this moment, was designed as an RBA deck in a tank that can also utilize the Atlantis family of coils.

A redesign will take time and money, which will push up the price of the atomizer.

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If the current design can be modified to include an airflow control that satisfies MTL and DTL vapers, while still using the A-tank, the cost could theoretically stay lower, which would help make up for the fact that the customer must also buy the A-tank.

Let's say the atomizer stays in the A-tank, and it could be designed and sold for $80-100...with the cost of the A-tank, you're looking at $140-160 which is the general range of the current offerings for the Rev4.
 

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I see that BB has the BB-OCCbridge up. I was going to get the bridge that uses the Nauti coils, as I already use these coils in an RTA. Can someone give me a quick comparison on these two. Are the KangerTech coils more expensive than the Nauti? Thanks.

I'm thinking of getting this too. Anybody use this bridge? Any opinions, coil preference for it, etc. would be appreciated.
 

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I went ahead and ordered the OCC bridge anyway, so I'll try the Kanger coils. Just need to know which I can use. Any KT Occ head? Thanks.

I have one Boro dedicated to Kanger OCC coils and love them (.5ohm version). The 1.2/1.5 ohm heads have too tight of a draw for me.

They last just about two weeks with the juice I use which is a known coil killer.
 
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