The Darwin From Evolv!!!

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I'm a die-hard dripper. .... For the tiny hole in 801 style whistle-tips, a bit of practice and can do w/o looking. Some 801 style whistle-tips are a bit snug in the mouthpiece hole at first but just wiggle the needle in it the first couple of times and then it goes in easily after that: 1/2 OZ BOTTLE W/NEEDLE TIP

I first learned of them in this vid: YouTube - step07726's Channel

At the end of the day I'll also be on the Dripper Squad with you, NebulaBrot. While this carto isn't as horrible as I imagined it...no comparison. The VapeMate, so far, is the best alternative for dripping and driving. I have one (older) Ikenvape 3.5 mini that won't accept any drip tip except for a whistle-tip. Great atty so not going to toss it. I saw a guy named Cappy (?) on YouTube had an extra long needle tip and I've seen you post the link for the bottle but never Smokie's demo. This is quite a find. I imagine this would work like that: Lurer Lock bottles? I got a couple to fill my tanks.
 

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I filled one of those dual coil cartos and gave it a try. Hmmm...I'm not sure. May just be the one I tried, but not getting a whole lotta vapor??? Can someone give me a comparison of vapor they get from one to say dripping? Not sure if I'm just expecting too much out of a carto or maybe the one I grabbed just has an issue...

You know what Drew says - cartos need to be broken in. Was this your first fill? Maybe this is one of the type that is better second or third time around?


Hey, Sewknitty, I use the V4L coolcart cartomizers a lot, love them. The hold a little over a ml of juice and give great flavor and throat hit, they are 3.3 to 3.4 ohms with a stealth 510-901/808 adapter. I drip at work a lot but use these cartos most of the time, better for driving to say the least.

Coolcart - check. Will give them a try. Thanks, Mark!
 

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Thank you, NebulaBrot! I believe in airflow. I'm going to try that link as I wait for some cartos I dug up to soak up juice. Carts don't hold much in the way of juice so vapers really had to have a lot of patience. Kudos to you for hanging in there!

This is pretty doggone exciting because I was just thinking the other day I wish I could marry my Reo to my Darwin. You know, to have that flexibility without dripping and without resting a tank on Darwin's face all the time. Off I go to experiment some more!

Edit to add: B.F. stands for Blue Foam, turns out. I'm going to have to ease myself away from the comfort of filler-free vaping, I think. At this very moment I can't contemplate blue foam but ya never know what the future holds. However, I did just pop some 801 cartos in my cart. I remembered the carto-spin (Taryn spin?) and I'm giving this carto the best chance possible by letting the juice soak in for about 1/2 hour.

Sewknitty, I can't marry my mods, as they are all my guys! My (soon to be) Darwin will be my Knight in Shining Armour tho.

Carts? Did you say carts? As in polyfill, blue foam, screws, straws and the like? I can't see ever using those again (ok, except for an emergency) and I doubt I would try one on my (upcoming, soon to be) Darwin Knight. But then again, I'll prolly be curious. :)
 

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In the First Time for Everything category, I can add using a cartridge with an atomizer. I haven't used a juice vessel with fiber fill for the longest time because...well, the idea is just yucky to me. As a SewKnitty fiber fill is for...well, you know...quilts, jackets, pillows...not for wicking juice for a vape.

Well, as usual, one of my Absolute Certainties turns out to be a little wobbly. I tried it on a whim while I finish rolling through Nhaler's site a few more times before finally sending my order through. I'm getting some of those dual coil cartos and wanted to see if the idea of fill was too much for me.

I pulled all the fill out and cut off the part that seemed to have glue or something on it, pulled it apart a bit, saturated it with juice and then put it back in the cartridge loosely. I added a couple more drops and popped it on an atty. And, eureeka! I found the bad atty! It wasn't the one I thought it would be but that's for another story. Anyway, on a working atty this isn't horrible as long as its kept wet. I don't taste the fill, there's no gurgle and no leaking (yay!). I get it now. As soon as I'm absolutely, positively sure I've gotten everything I want shipped from Nhaler I'll start Advance Stalking Phase I for the arrival of the dual coils.

Why do folks like KR-808 cartos? Should I try some of those too?

Signing off as The Slow One.



My wife uses the Bloog Max Fusion KR808 set-up. She likes something that resembles an analog and the convenience of pre-filled cartos. I've used her pv a bit. Their pre-filled really aren't too bad tasting (compared to some that I've had) and the little spaceage looking PCC for her mini bloog batts is kind of neat. But, if you can drip and don't mind filling your own cartos, I wouldn't recommend them. Pricey and completely unnecessary. If you want KR808's, Drew has some noname batts and decent cartos in his store. Pretty sure that you won't like them as well as the CE2 Tanks and regular atty's. Kind of a waste of time on a Darwin. If you want to try something new, i would encourage you to try the 901's with a drip shield (to keep them from leaking). The drip shield tightens up the draw a little (for the better IMO) and keeps the juice where it belongs. I like the flavor from a 901 better than any of the others.
 

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I imagine this would work like that: Lurer Lock bottles? I got a couple to fill my tanks.
Should do just fine. Those are double the price but they also have alternate caps. The racer edge ones don't leak but the little red caps can get lost. I haven't lost any yet and I have 6 or 7 of them. I loaned out a bunch and never saw them again :lol: Gotta order some more.
 

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Kat, I have a co-ed stable of mods! :lol: The Reo has to be a female because she models a Twisted drip tip that exactly coordinates with her color combo so well. The Darwin, Silver Bullet and - out of respect for Fono - the Phidias have to be male, as does the Big Daddy because he's named Big Daddy! My JamBox is absolutely a petite female and I like to leave the Big KaZoo's options open. I do live in NY, after all. With that figure, of course the Omega is a female!

Imagine a Reo + Darwin combo for a moment...ahhh, what brilliant offspring they would be! I'm so fill-free it's kinda ridiculous but smart vapers far and wide are still relying on cartos with fill. Either they settle (sorry :laugh: ) with a lesser vape experience for the convenience or I'm just being a snooty patooty. So, I took some of the cartos out of my cart but left in the 801s and the 801 Drip-O's. And, ya know what this means, right? It'll be forever while I go back and forth (and forth and back) adding stuff in and taking it out of that damn cart tonight. I'm gonna need more caffeine.

Okay, Ms. Kris, then that carto's not for you then. Win some, lose some.

Vapin', I think I might pop a kr-808 pack back in my cart. I mean...so many people buy these and I'm thinking that's a result of their mini days or they're sawesome (super awesome). I mean, for awhile after graduating from the mini I had an adapter to still use the 4081 because I liked 'em. And they're sold out of the Drip Shields. It's no wonder. Everybody (but me) seems to have snagged one! :(

Nebula, double the price you say? So trying yours!
 
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Kat, I have a co-ed stable of mods! :lol: The Reo has to be a female because she models a Twisted drip tip that exactly coordinates with her color combo so well. The Darwin, Silver Bullet and - out of respect for Fono - the Phidias have to be male, as does the Big Daddy because he's named Big Daddy! My JamBox is absolutely a petite female and I like to leave the Big KaZoo's options open. I do live in NY, after all. With that figure, of course the Omega is a female!

Imagine a Reo + Darwin combo for a moment...ahhh, what brilliant offspring they would be! I'm so fill-free it's kinda ridiculous but smart vapers far and wide are still relying on cartos with fill. Either they settle (sorry :laugh: ) with a lesser vape experience for the convenience or I'm just being a snooty patooty. So, I took some of the cartos out of my cart but left in the 801s and the 801 Drip-O's. And, ya know what this means, right? It'll be forever while I go back and forth (and forth and back) adding stuff in and taking it out of that damn cart tonight. I'm gonna need more caffeine.

Okay, Ms. Kris, then that carto's not for you then. Win some, lose some.

Vapin', I think I might pop a kr-808 pack back in my cart. I mean...so many people buy these and I'm thinking that's a result of their mini days or they're sawesome (super awesome). I mean, for awhile after graduating from the mini I had an adapter to still use the 4081 because I liked 'em. And they're sold out of the Drip Shields. It's no wonder. Everybody (but me) seems to have snagged one! :(

Nebula, double the price you say? So trying yours!


Just don't forget to make sure that you have an adapter to fit them girlfriend.
 

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Just don't forget to make sure that you have an adapter to fit them girlfriend.

Dude...adapter is my middle name. :laugh:

You may be right, SK. I'll give them another go though 8>)

Am I the only one who has not tried 901?? Lol, I bought the drip shield, but keep forgetting to throw some 901 attys in my cart. I'm a bit curious why they are so popular despite the leaking problems they obviously have...anyone??

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Nope! The leaking problem is why I haven't...well, that's not the only reason. They're just long 510's so they must REALLY be like vaping pencils. I do hear they're supposed to provide great flavor but let's think about that for a minute... Dimensions of a 510...giant hole...okay, where's the flavor-bringing part in that?? I'm still trying a couple, Kris. Ikenvape also has a 901 carto I might try to. Wonder if it has the infamous hole.
 

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Dude...adapter is my middle name. :laugh:



Nope! The leaking problem is why I haven't...well, that's not the only reason. They're just long 510's so they must REALLY be like vaping pencils. I do hear they're supposed to provide great flavor but let's think about that for a minute... Dimensions of a 510...giant hole...okay, where's the flavor-bringing part in that?? I'm still trying a couple, Kris. Ikenvape also has a 901 carto I might try to. Wonder if it has the infamous hole.

The greater the distance between your mouth and the atty, the cooler and more flavorful the vape. I'm vaping just below 5 volts most of the time into a 3.0 Ohm BE112 (801 penstyle class atty). I just love it. When I have a weak juice or a really layered flavor, I put on a 901 and really notice the difference at the same wattage. Go figure. It's really hard for me to get into the 510's like this. I just don't have the need for a TH, if it means giving up the flavor and texture of a really good juice.
 

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The greater the distance between your mouth and the atty, the cooler and more flavorful the vape. I'm vaping just below 5 volts most of the time into a 3.0 Ohm BE112 (801 penstyle class atty). I just love it. When I have a weak juice or a really layered flavor, I put on a 901 and really notice the difference at the same wattage. Go figure. It's really hard for me to get into the 510's like this. I just don't have the need for a TH, if it means giving up the flavor and texture of a really good juice.

Okay, but we have the magnificent 801 for flavor and it has no troublesome hole. I've also read the 901 is good for throat hit...maybe the diameter has something to do with that... Whatever...it'll still be like vaping a pencil for sure. And, a hole-y pencil at that! ;)
 

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As much as I like the coolcarts when I buy several sample bottles of new flavors (and I do buy a lot of them) I always try them first on my 3.7 volt batts with a 901 atty. This seems to be the best for me for getting the best flavor then decide whether to put that flavor into cartos or use a 510 atty or stick to the 901. Different juices perform better in specific applications for me. I have some that are so so in a carto and great on a 510 and many just the opposite. It took me a while to figure out the need for many different types of cartos or attys. Seems as though no one sells everything I use.


Quick question, I havent tried the mini map tanks yet, I've heard they are better a lower voltages to prevent wicking probs or burning taste. I usually vape around 4.5-5 volts, Are they good at these voltages? Thanks anyone who can answer. And will they work well on my soon to be delivered (hopefully) Darwin?
 

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As much as I like the coolcarts when I buy several sample bottles of new flavors (and I do buy a lot of them) I always try them first on my 3.7 volt batts with a 901 atty. This seems to be the best for me for getting the best flavor then decide whether to put that flavor into cartos or use a 510 atty or stick to the 901. Different juices perform better in specific applications for me. I have some that are so so in a carto and great on a 510 and many just the opposite. It took me a while to figure out the need for many different types of cartos or attys. Seems as though no one sells everything I use.


Quick question, I havent tried the mini map tanks yet, I've heard they are better a lower voltages to prevent wicking probs or burning taste. I usually vape around 4.5-5 volts, Are they good at these voltages? Thanks anyone who can answer. And will they work well on my soon to be delivered (hopefully) Darwin?



I haven't tried one yet Mark. But, from what I have read, they go through kind of a break in period on the wicks and the second or third tank runs better at higher voltages. I read the same things about the floss-less cartos all the time. The theme seems to be leaking OR wicking problems OR both. Some people are saying you have to burn in the wicks to season them. It all sounds like more work and trouble than dripping to me. Drew mentioned the other day that was looking into some new tank style units and would get back to us when he had a product he could recommend. I'm going to wait and see what he comes up with. He's one for one on this Darwin. I love it.
 

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As much as I like the coolcarts when I buy several sample bottles of new flavors (and I do buy a lot of them) I always try them first on my 3.7 volt batts with a 901 atty. This seems to be the best for me for getting the best flavor then decide whether to put that flavor into cartos or use a 510 atty or stick to the 901. Different juices perform better in specific applications for me. I have some that are so so in a carto and great on a 510 and many just the opposite. It took me a while to figure out the need for many different types of cartos or attys. Seems as though no one sells everything I use.


Quick question, I havent tried the mini map tanks yet, I've heard they are better a lower voltages to prevent wicking probs or burning taste. I usually vape around 4.5-5 volts, Are they good at these voltages? Thanks anyone who can answer. And will they work well on my soon to be delivered (hopefully) Darwin?

Yes, to the mini tanks at higher voltages. That's been my finding anyway. Ymmv. In fact, I actually prefer them to the 5ml at any voltage, probably because wicking is mega-reliable. I never had a break-in period with my mini tanks and if you run hot water over the wicks and drip a bit on the coil, you can avoid a lot of break-in disappointment with any ceramic (I've found). Again, ymmv.

Edit to add: that hot water thing is not to get any mysterious fluid or evilness off the wicks but is based on the same principle of breaking in cartos. Blot well, then fill with juice. I'm too lazy. I get a ceramic. I fill it. I vape.

And, 901s...for flavor. Is that because you've never tried an 801? That's a serious (as opposed to snarky) question, Mark. And, how did you start with the 901? I tried my first 801 because Ikenvape was out of 510's but not the 801s. As I searched for reviews I noticed some vapers were kinda nutty about them. Now I'm one of those nutty folks.
 
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These BE112's are penstyle atty's. But they just don't bring the edge out on my lighter flavors as well as the 901's seem to for me.

Speaking of my loud juices. Have you guys ever tried the Absinthe from Totally Wicked (Decandent Vapours actually makes it over in the UK... But, TW sells it in the States)? It's one of my favorite "uniques". You know you're liking something when you go right for the biggest bottle every time you order it. LOL
 

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SK, you have both the reg and mini map? Do you see less problems with wicking on the mini?

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They both work really well, Kris. I prefer the mini because I only want 5ml of the same juice if it's a Trapped in Traffic Day. The 5ml loves my usual juice - 60/40 (PG/VG) -from my daily vape vendor - but a 50/50, more viscous, juice from another vendor does well in the mini but not the 5ml.
 

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Yes, to the mini tanks at higher voltages. That's been my finding anyway. Ymmv. In fact, I actually prefer them to the 5ml at any voltage, probably because wicking is mega-reliable. I never had a break-in period with my mini tanks and if you run hot water over the wicks and drip a bit on the coil, you can avoid a lot of break-in disappointment with any ceramic (I've found). Again, ymmv.

Edit to add: that hot water thing is not to get any mysterious fluid or evilness off the wicks but is based on the same principle of breaking in cartos. Blot well, then fill with juice. I'm too lazy. I get a ceramic. I fill it. I vape.

And, 901s...for flavor. Is that because you've never tried an 801? That's a serious (as opposed to snarky) question, Mark. And, how did you start with the 901? I tried my first 801 because Ikenvape was out of 510's but not the 801s. As I searched for reviews I noticed some vapers were kinda nutty about them. Now I'm one of those nutty folks.

I started in October 2009 vapeing with KR808 and cartomizers, it got me completely off analogs within 3 weeks, then i went to a 5 volt mod with an 808 connector, then to a vari volt mod late last year that had a 510 connection. With that vari volt was the first time I even tried atomizers and have only tried the 510 and 901. With what I have been reading lately I will try the 801 next for sure and possibly the BE112. Will have to find out where I can get a stealth 510 to 801 adapter if they are available, I believe I read that the BE112 will fit on a 510 connector so no adapter needed for that, right? Been vapeing a while but haven't tried everything I would like to yet. The only thing I have gone overboard on is juices, I think I have over 1000mls in about 35 or more flavors, thats been enough of a drain on the old bank account as you can imagine. Now that I have all these juices I plan on trying more different equipment.
 
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