The Darwin From Evolv!!!

[markimar]

Quick question on the battery since its like a cell phone bat is it best to condition it by using it till it quits the charge over night? I know with cell batteries it makes them last longer.

Ps. Loving this more and more thanks Drew!
Damn tastyvapor caramel popcorn is awesome on this!

 

[mamacat]

Yes it does have a manual and hopefully we wont need a trouble shooting guide!!! It is a VERY simple device...I am thinking that they will be shipped at or above 40% but not positive really...Thanks,
Drew

Is this manual a download somewhere? I need it or feel like I do anyway. lol

 

[murf43143]

Is this manual a download somewhere? I need it or feel like I do anyway. lol

Start at Nebulas post.

 

[BigBopper]

I got mine today as well. WOOHOO!!!
But..... like markimar, I am noticing some cosmetic damage. There are a few mars on the front, and some scratches on the back. I am also noticing a gap in the seam on the atty end. This disappoints me. For $229, I would expect it to reach me flawless. And that gap does have me concerned. What if some ejuice gets in there, which is a definite possibility. Is that going to screw up the electronics? There also is some play on the swing arm that concerns me.
It is a vaping machine though. It's nice to know that when you press the button, it is actually firing, unlike my Stick v3, which does not always fire.

Al

 

[mamacat]

Start at Nebulas post.

Thanks but I was hoping for a Darwin for Dummies style PDF download or something similar. Whereby all the necessary information can be found without hunting through the forums for bits and pieces. Having said that, doing what nebula suggested is what I am left with until I get there.

Still waiting to find out if there is a screen protector thingy do on there, too?

 

[NebulaBrot]

Thanks but I was hoping for a Darwin for Dummies style PDF download or something similar. Whereby all the necessary information can be found without hunting through the forums for bits and pieces. Having said that, doing what nebula suggested is what I am left with until I get there.

Still waiting to find out if there is a screen protector thingy do on there, too?

Try starting here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-pre-production-prototype-14.html#post2555143 and reading my posts from there. I think I covered most questions. You will soon find out that Darwin is just about the easiest device to use.

That link pics up my posts starting today when someone else asked the same as you are asking now.

 

[Drewsworld]

Hey everyone...I am working on the PDF instructions now...AS far as scratches go, I did inspect all of these , but I guess iwasnt in the best light. I did see some sparkles on some of the backs but was told that it was part of the finish process....I will tell you if there is a case seperation that it may have been missed and remeber your unit has a FULL warranty for one year on thebattery and 2 years on the electronics and we are completely prepared to honor that. Please send me an email at DGliem00@gmail.com with any issues and we will take care of them. Thanks
Drew

 

[Drewsworld]

Also as a reminder if you have questions that you would like answered, they should be posted in this thread because I cannot answer in the review thread nor can representatives from Evolv as it is against forum rules. Thanks
Drew

 

[cigarbabe]

Is this manual a download somewhere? I need it or feel like I do anyway. lol

That was the first question I asked also.

Why does the front of my device have tiny gouges and there is no way to determine if the device is charging.
"Most devices dim when you first plug it in" I don't find that to be helpful or a good reason
for why this device hasn't some way to tell us what is going on as far as charging.

I am also wondering why there isn't a drip cup to catch the juice because now that it is leaking from the atty it will surely run right into the inside of the device which leads to my next question; why was the atty handle put on the same side as the button to fire the device?

Last but certainly not least is you cannot see what readings the device is set at.

You must continue to fire the atty to get a reading which seems wasteful to me.
It is impossible to read such tiny writing and it doesn't stay on at all after you release the button.
Why burn up my juice and possibly an atomizer?

Couldn't you keep the readings up on the screen for a few seconds with the light on {it draws practically no current!}. It appears to the casual observer that the software coder must not be a vaper or use this device as it would have been immediately obvious that one cannot see the readings while vaping.

Why is there an atom symbol?
Couldn't they have used the atom symbol as an indicator by flashing or changing something to give us a hint.
Wouldn't it be better served to use that space for reading voltage, resistance, current,charging activity and charge completion, instead of the tiny space it now occupies?

We have become accustomed to seeing and utilizing these general graphical user interface characteristics, available on the cheapest of cell phones and other consumer electronics, should we not expect them to be part of one of the most "expensive and advanced mods"?

Thank you NebulaBrot you have been most helpful.
C.B.

 

[mamacat]

E-mail sent.

 

[NebulaBrot]

CB - I am not associated with Evolv but I will try to help you.

If your juice is leaking from the atty - you are over dripping (as with any device).

The "catch cup" is on some devices and not on others.

As for charging, the light on the charge adapter does dim when you plug it in but don't worry about it - my prototype has charged every time I plug it in. Could there be some other charging indicator? Sure and maybe Evolv will either add that or put in future devices.

As for reading the screen, you really do not need to see it. Would it be cool if you could? Sure but you will very soon find that you are never looking at the screen other than to initially set it. No other device provides this much info on a single screen (in fact, there is currently only one other device with a screen and that one you have to enter individual menus with multiple button presses to see each reading - but it is another very good device). the only number you NEED to see is the big one for setting and you do not need to see it while vaping. the time of a activation press, if you want to see all the numbers change, is only a second or two and you will do absolutely no harm to your attys or device with a short activation to read them. But, as I said, you will soon stop looking altogether and just enjoy a great consistent vape.

There are different considerations when designing a device and a readout screen. In this case, the screen and information is provided for setting and monitoring adjustments but in a very short time (probably a day or less) you will find your favorite setting for any juice and not want to be staring at that screen all day. The info is there for when you want it but it is not designed to be a full time "heads up" display.

Darwin in the only device that lets you set the watts (heat output). All the other info showing you how the watts are calculated is provided on that screen but it is really not necessary to watch any of it. When you turn on a stereo, you set the volume where you want it and do not need to see all of the recording levels jump and dance. On Darwin, find your favorite vape setting for each juice and enjoy it.

I do not know if you took the time to read my initial post (first post of above linked thread). It is very long and also very thorough. It covers every part of Darwin. If I can be of any more help - feel free to PM me.

 

[andel11]

Is this manual a download somewhere? I need it or feel like I do anyway. lol

Well, I waited long enough told Drew that I'm getting one.
Oh my goodness mamacat, I am totally a dunces when it comes to electronics, the simplest things I get confused. Drew, I am ordering one and you know I am going to have problems with even the smallest thing with the Darwin, any way there can be sometype of Manuel to go with this.

 

[cigarbabe]

NebulaBrot;
Believe me when I say I wrote that just to ask questions, that I thought many might have,myself included!
I am not unhappy with the device at all with a few exceptions; I don't understand why the device should have these tiny gouges in it, being brand spanking new.
There does need to be a manual and third though you dispute it, I want to see what my device is doing as far as the settings can or will do.
I have never tired of changing and seeing the screen on my Provari because it gives me a thrill to be able to change resistance at my whim. I like to watch period!
I do get a much more consistent vape with the Darwin but it would be nice for those of us who have only a slight mechanical/electrical understanding, to have a booklet to explain the who,what,where's and why's of this device.
To that end I think it's great that Drew is undertaking to provide that for us.
These are as I said my opinions on what I think the device should have.
I realize that you can't satisfy everyone but to me these seem to be oversights.
I believe you when you tell me that isn't so but this is my opinion and only mine.
I was certainly not trying to denigrate the device in anyway I am simply asking why
it is that way.
C.B.

 

[NebulaBrot]

CB - I am truly sorry you are so frustrated. I have now told you three different times that I have nothing to do with Evolvapor, Darwin or NHaler. Your comments are better directed to them.

I have, however, patiently and in great detail, provided every piece of information available about the device, how it works, how to use it, how to find YOUR setting and every possible piece of detailed information I could think of or find. That seems not enough for you. Manufacturer specifications will only be posted by Evolv and I would imagine they will be coming very soon.

There is not much that could possibly put into a manual that I have not already provided. Of course we all hope Evolv posts a PDF or other downloadable information booklet. But, as far as instructions go - it does not get any more simple than Darwin.

Step 1) Charge it
Step 2) Choose and atty, put it on Darwin and juice it.
Step 3) start at 8.5 (preset mid point of wheel adjustment - with convenient stopping point on wheel turn)
Step 4) adjust slightly up to make your vapor warmer or down to make it cooler.

There really is nothing else to it. There is nothing else to change other than the watts setting. The ohms and volts and amps will only change if the atty ohms change. When they change, Darwin makes the changes (according to ohms law) to maintain the watts you set. If you want to watch it, angle the atty and vape so you can see the screen.

I also have Provari and I played with it too. But you complain you cannot see Darwin screen while you vape and on Provari - the screen shows absolutely nothing while you vape.

I tried to help you in PM (in response to your PM to me). Your choosing to respond in the public forum, to continue your rant, is not very appropriate and it certainly does not motivate me to try to assist you further. So, if you would like any more assistance, please PM me or someone else and it really is more appropriate to respond to PMs in PM.

 

[dertbv]

When you are changing settings on the other device it is firing the atomizer, even if it is in short bursts. I find that I can press the button on the darwin and get all of my readings alot quicker. No need to fire it multiple times. Here is a test put a lr atom on the other device and jack up the volts to 6. I get an error message every time or the unit completely shuts down, Causing me to reset the battery. Since I have more than one atomizer/cart i have to check the reading of each one i use to make sure that i have the unit set before hand. The darwin does away with these steps. If I need to adjust the temp(wats) down it is just a twist of a wheel.

Don't think a catch cup would be that great of an ideal as the unit has a swing arm. I find myself using it in different positions and not always at a level one. Lying in my bed right now it would not be much good. then again I am a not a dripper.

The battery charge notice should have been something that was included. Can not believe it does not have one. Even the battery icon flashing would have sufficed. Maybe a little red light something.

I actually looked for a manual in the box but figured it was so simple and had already read about, it did not make that big of a difference.

The darwin is a set it and forget it device as far as I can tell. I have gone back and forth from low-med (1.5-3.2)atoms and not had to make any changes to the device to get the same hit.

 

[VapingMattCA]

All I can say about the Darwin is it is the BEST device I have ever purchased!!! I absolutely love this thing. Even though some may think it is a bit pricey, its worth every penny! Thank you Drew for getting these shipped out the day you recieved the 1st batch. You even allowed us to be put on the list without having to pre-pay for it like another vendor we all have heard of and waiting 1-3 weeks to get it. Your customer service is the best!!!

 

[rockstarr]

I love this thing, my other devices are now obsolete.. The charge thing is a little confusing, not having something to let me know its charging, after being on charge all night, i woke up to find it didn't charge at all??? I made sure it was in properly in a working outlet.... does it have to be in the on position to charge??? I'm trying that now.

 

[cigarbabe]

CB - I am truly sorry you are so frustrated. I have now told you three different times that I have nothing to do with Evolvapor, Darwin or NHaler. Your comments are better directed to them.

I have, however, patiently and in great detail, provided every piece of information available about the device, how it works, how to use it, how to find YOUR setting and every possible piece of detailed information I could think of or find. That seems not enough for you. Manufacturer specifications will only be posted by Evolv and I would imagine they will be coming very soon.

There is not much that could possibly put into a manual that I have not already provided. Of course we all hope Evolv posts a PDF or other downloadable information booklet. But, as far as instructions go - it does not get any more simple than Darwin.

Step 1) Charge it
Step 2) Choose and atty, put it on Darwin and juice it.
Step 3) start at 8.5 (preset mid point of wheel adjustment - with convenient stopping point on wheel turn)
Step 4) adjust slightly up to make your vapor warmer or down to make it cooler.

There really is nothing else to it. There is nothing else to change other than the watts setting. The ohms and volts and amps will only change if the atty ohms change. When they change, Darwin makes the changes (according to ohms law) to maintain the watts you set. If you want to watch it, angle the atty and vape so you can see the screen.

I also have Provari and I played with it too. But you complain you cannot see Darwin screen while you vape and on Provari - the screen shows absolutely nothing while you vape.

I tried to help you in PM (in response to your PM to me). Your choosing to respond in the public forum, to continue your rant, is not very appropriate and it certainly does not motivate me to try to assist you further. So, if you would like any more assistance, please PM me or someone else and it really is more appropriate to respond to PMs in PM.

First of all my response was not a rant.
I simply asked some questions that were and are being discussed amongst several of us who have the device, those people include several engineers who wondered why, about many things we see on the device and those we found to be lacking, in our opinions.
You may classify my response anyway you want, it doesn't faze me and although you seem polite enough in these forums what I got from you face to face was anything but polite.
You seemed angry both here and on Skype that anyone dares to question your posts on the product which belies an involvement, in our opinion. You claimed that you have written much more than I have as if that makes your opinion, somehow greater than mine or anyone else!
When I said I am not trying to denigrate the Darwin that was exactly what I meant
no more no less. I am not angry that I didn't know how the device worked at first, it makes no sense at all to be angry at a "device" and I was happy with the explanations you gave, at first.
I believe that many,including myself did not know that the Darwin's numbers on the screen stood for watts. How could we without some form of information to verify that?
The fact remains, these questions wouldn't be asked if everyone started out with the same knowledge about the device.
They don't.
That Drew is willing to undertake writing a booklet explaining how and why the device works speaks very highly of him and shows he respects and is listening to try to give the consumers of the Darwin what they are clamoring for.
C.B.

 

[clyde2801]

I can see both points in the cb-nb discussion. Despite being an old fart in the making, I was wondering why there wan't a charge indicator, at least a flashing battery icon, at first. But I was able to use the Darwin HEAVILY, ALL DAY without it needing a charge or showing that the battery had even dropped in capacity. I suspect that if I plug it in every night, or every other night, this will never be a problem. But an indicator would be a reassuring touch.

I have overfed mine once or twice, resulting in it throwing up on my shirt a little bit once or twice like a sick baby. That's a minor inconvenience until I get the learning curve down. The upside of it is that I haven't flooded my atty even once. Again, in my opinion, the good outweighs the bad...my shirts are wash and wear. My minor quibble is that I have to take particular care when putting an atty or adapter on the brass connection...otherwise, mine want to cross thread, and I'm afraid I'll strip out the threads on the connection.

Loving the crap out of mine, and I've started a little impressions thread in the review section and will be posting follow up posts as I play with it. My gut feeling so far is that the strengths of this mod outweigh having to drip...and this is coming from a die-hard juicing mod fan. I'm also starting to suspect that....and I almost hesitate to say it....that the distinctions I knew from my entire vaping experience such as 'high voltage', 'low resistance' and the like may have just disappeared.

This thing takes the 'hit the button, get a vape' experience of a good mod to a whole new level. It's 'hit the button, get a PERFECT vape".

 

[rockstarr]

I'm pretty sure mine is not charging? been on charger fo 12 hrs. and batt is sill only 1/2 full