The Darwin From Evolv!!!

Status
Not open for further replies.

cuseguy

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 15, 2010
2,822
1,055
Texas USA
Exactly, OC!

Btw, the Darwin plays well with the VapeMate. I'm in 801 heaven right now.

That was a long damn day. Got home to a nice package in my mailbox of attys, cartos and clearos from Nhaler. Forgot I ordered it to be honest! Wow, first time I have ever drained a MAP tank in one day, especially while at work! but I was driving half the day it seemed. Battery is now one bar down after 15 hours and 5ml of vaping! And I haven't even gotten started yet! Gonna shower, have a few beers, and a few more ml's of juice!
 

andel11

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 27, 2009
1,299
469
74
Bay Area, Ca
Mine are adding up within a point or so.

On the earlier questions about the button being slanted, Mine is perfectly flat and I can fire it from either side. The right is a little tougher to push but not much.

Arvidx, So is mine, its flat. Can fire from left and the right
 

Parmacrafter

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 15, 2009
1,879
7,666
56
Parma, Idaho, USA
I got mine yesterday too. Sorry I wasn't in here to chat. Been a rough week. I was one of the lucky ones who got one from the first release as well, so this is my second one. After a solid 24 hours playing with both of them I can attest to the fact that they are mostly identical.

My Gear: I am running Boge 510 3.2 ohm Cartomizers. This is my preferred vape and at 8.4 to 8.5 I get a pretty steady 5 volts.

Button:
The button still has the pivot point at the bottom end so pushing the button closer to the atty side makes it much easier. Unlike the pics on the Evolv site the button just barely has any space below it. I think it was the beta units that had that large space. This newer Darwin has a slightly softer touch on the button. I don't have to push it with nearly the force I had to on the first one.

Adjustment Dial:
This too is almost identical on both units. My first one has a center point of 8.4 watts and the new one has a center point of 8.5 watts. My first unit the dial was VERY easy to turn. Just moving the arm up and down was often enough to brush the dial and cause the voltage to change. This newer one is a bit stiffer. No more accidental dial turns. WooHoo! Note: On my original one I used a tiny piece of black duct tape over the dial so as to not accidentally bump my settings out of whack.

Appearance:
I too am one of the people who got a new Darwin without the signature on the front. Bummer. I really liked that signature. Oh well. Other than that and the word Evolv being in a different place on the back. On the original unit the word Evolv was directly below the logo on the back. The new one it is at the opposite end. Also the new one the logo is silver where the older one was white. All of this is purely cosmetic and really doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

Atty Connector:
Ok, here there is a bit of a difference. The original unit is a tiny bit rough looking at the top of the threads. The new one is very clean looking. The threading itself is pretty much identical on both units. The threads are very precise and tight. The first few times you screw in the atty/carto it will be tight and hard to screw all the way down. After 24 hours this is much better. The other big difference is the swivel function of the arm. The older one the arm moves very smooth and easy. The new one the arm is VERY tight on mine. I am hoping this loosens up a bit in time. For now I just leave it in the fully extended position until I go to bed at night. For those who want to know...... I have been using both Darwins equally since yesterday. I got the exact same battery life out of both of them. One had the arm up and in the on position full time and the other was off except when actually vaping. So clearly the screen doesn't use enough energy to notice even after a full 24 hours.

Battery:
As I stated before in my review (in the regular section of Nhaler subform) the battery life is nothing short of fantastic. Using only 1 Darwin full time I can get 5 full mils of juice vaped before the battery hits the halfway point. This worked out to about 13-15 hours for me. I never seem to put the darned thing down. Using 2 of them evenly for a full 24 hours I only lost 1 power bar on each unit. Also of note: from dead the battery has yet to need more than 4 hours to reach full charge.

Charging:
This has been mentioned in several places but I am gonna mention it again just in case anyone missed it. The Darwin does NOT have an indicator to tell you when it is charging. The only way to know is when you first plug the charger into the Darwin the little green light on the charger dims slightly. Rest assured, if it is plugged into a functioning outlet and the light is on on the charger, it is charging. It is also worth mentioning that the Darwin can be charged with the atty arm in any position. At the halfway point on the battery meter you shouldn't need more than 2 hours or so for a full charge.

P.S. You all need to have 2 of these. Best I can figure with two of them fully charged if I don't ever sleep I should get about 44 hours on a single charge.

On a side note: Since I got my first Darwin I have hardly put it down. It goes every where I go. I can't even seem to let it go for a shower. It gets it's very own ziplock baggy with only the drip tip exposed. I know, I am addicted. Problem now is that I have two. That means I have one for each hand. I can foresee my future. Nothing will ever get done again because both of my hands will always be full and busy.

Pics below: The one at the top of each picture is the Original the bottom one is the new one. Both are Production models. I was not lucky enough to get in on beta models.
Darwins2.jpg

Darwins.jpg
 
Last edited:

Sewknitty

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Nov 12, 2010
1,425
98
NY
shesaquitter.wordpress.com
That's another top-notch vendor, Cuseguy. I'm sure you won't be disappointed!

Parma, thanks for the thorough review and comparison between your two Darwins. You're kinda killin' me because I've been researching a VV to use as a backup and up you pop with what could be the solution - twins! Stop it! Before you do, can you tell me if I need to keep the 510-510 adapter on? I promptly screwed it in because of what I read about the brass being soft and a potential for cross-threading. It doesn't bother me and I kind of like a raised connector anyway...just wondering.

One more thing. I don't mind not having the signature (too much) but the white does look cleaner than the current imprints. I'm assuming these will smooth out and mellow around the edges over time. Right now they're a little rough and take a tiny (very tiny) bit from the otherwise clean look. And, isn't it great feedback is noted and addressed with subsequent runs? Looks like it will keep on evolving...(oh, you knew that'd pop up sometime, at some point when dishing about the you-know-what :))


Edit to add: Okay...maybe 8.5 is my sweet spot. And, thanks for the shower-vape tips, Parma! :laugh:
 
Last edited:

georgea

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 2, 2009
73
3
Vernon Hills, IL
Hey Parma,

Here's a crazy idea. Since you're one of the fortunate ones to have two, and you mentioned that leaving the arm extended seems to have little to no impact on the battery, how bout this...

Pick one of your Darwins, fully charge it, then extend the arm to activate the display. Start the clock and leave it alone (I know it's tempting, but no touchy) Let's see how long the battery lasts until it hits 50%. The reason I suggested this is because I use the map tank and the AVS, and since I can't rotate the arm to the off position with them attached, and the fact that I don't want to unscrew them after I'm done vaping, just to reconnect one of them in a half hour or so (nervous about the brass connector, so I leave it), I'm curious about the drain on the battery with the unit activated, but not actually being fired for vaping. I've also noticed that the battery lasts a rediculously long time, even though I put my Darwin down with the tank attached and the arm at a 90 degree angle, by the end of the day the battery level is probably at 75%. Anyway, just a thought.

George



I got mine yesterday too. Sorry I wasn't in here to chat. Been a rough week. I was one of the lucky ones who got one from the first release as well, so this is my second one. After a solid 24 hours playing with both of them I can attest to the fact that they are mostly identical.

My Gear: I am running Boge 510 3.2 ohm Cartomizers. This is my preferred vape and at 8.4 to 8.5 I get a pretty steady 5 volts.

Button:
The button still has the pivot point at the bottom end so pushing the button closer to the atty side makes it much easier. Unlike the pics on the Evolv site the button just barely has any space below it. I think it was the beta units that had that large space. This newer Darwin has a slightly softer touch on the button. I don't have to push it with nearly the force I had to on the first one.

Adjustment Dial:
This too is almost identical on both units. My first one has a center point of 8.4 watts and the new one has a center point of 8.5 watts. My first unit the dial was VERY easy to turn. Just moving the arm up and down was often enough to brush the dial and cause the voltage to change. This newer one is a bit stiffer. No more accidental dial turns. WooHoo! Note: On my original one I used a tiny piece of black duct tape over the dial so as to not accidentally bump my settings out of whack.

Appearance:
I too am one of the people who got a new Darwin without the signature on the front. Bummer. I really liked that signature. Oh well. Other than that and the word Evolv being in a different place on the back. On the original unit the word Evolv was directly below the logo on the back. The new one it is at the opposite end. Also the new one the logo is silver where the older one was white. All of this is purely cosmetic and really doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

Atty Connector:
Ok, here there is a bit of a difference. The original unit is a tiny bit rough looking at the top of the threads. The new one is very clean looking. The threading itself is pretty much identical on both units. The threads are very precise and tight. The first few times you screw in the atty/carto it will be tight and hard to screw all the way down. After 24 hours this is much better. The other big difference is the swivel function of the arm. The older one the arm moves very smooth and easy. The new one the arm is VERY tight on mine. I am hoping this loosens up a bit in time. For now I just leave it in the fully extended position until I go to bed at night. For those who want to know...... I have been using both Darwins equally since yesterday. I got the exact same battery life out of both of them. One had the arm up and in the on position full time and the other was off except when actually vaping. So clearly the screen doesn't use enough energy to notice even after a full 24 hours.

Battery:
As I stated before in my review (in the regular section of Nhaler subform) the battery life is nothing short of fantastic. Using only 1 Darwin full time I can get 5 full mils of juice vaped before the battery hits the halfway point. This worked out to about 13-15 hours for me. I never seem to put the darned thing down. Using 2 of them evenly for a full 24 hours I only lost 1 power bar on each unit. Also of note: from dead the battery has yet to need more than 4 hours to reach full charge.

Charging:
This has been mentioned in several places but I am gonna mention it again just in case anyone missed it. The Darwin does NOT have an indicator to tell you when it is charging. The only way to know is when you first plug the charger into the Darwin the little green light on the charger dims slightly. Rest assured, if it is plugged into a functioning outlet and the light is on on the charger, it is charging. It is also worth mentioning that the Darwin can be charged with the atty arm in any position. At the halfway point on the battery meter you shouldn't need more than 2 hours or so for a full charge.

P.S. You all need to have 2 of these. Best I can figure with two of them fully charged if I don't ever sleep I should get about 44 hours on a single charge.

On a side note: Since I got my first Darwin I have hardly put it down. It goes every where I go. I can't even seem to let it go for a shower. It gets it's very own ziplock baggy with only the drip tip exposed. I know, I am addicted. Problem now is that I have two. That means I have one for each hand. I can foresee my future. Nothing will ever get done again because both of my hands will always be full and busy.

Pics below: The one at the top of each picture is the Original the bottom one is the new one. Both are Production models. I was not lucky enough to get in on beta models.
Darwins2.jpg

Darwins.jpg
 

Parmacrafter

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 15, 2009
1,879
7,666
56
Parma, Idaho, USA
That's another top-notch vendor, Cuseguy. I'm sure you won't be disappointed!

Parma, thanks for the thorough review and comparison between your two Darwins. You're kinda killin' me because I've been researching a VV to use as a backup and up you pop with what could be the solution - twins! Stop it! Before you do, can you tell me if I need to keep the 510-510 adapter on? I promptly screwed it in because of what I read about the brass being soft and a potential for cross-threading. It doesn't bother me and I kind of like a raised connector anyway...just wondering.

One more thing. I don't mind not having the signature (too much) but the white does look cleaner than the current imprints. I'm assuming these will smooth out and mellow around the edges over time. Right now they're a little rough and take a tiny (very tiny) bit from the otherwise clean look. And, isn't it great feedback is noted and addressed with subsequent runs? Looks like it will keep on evolving...(oh, you knew that'd pop up sometime, at some point when dishing about the you-know-what :))


Edit to add: Okay...maybe 8.5 is my sweet spot. And, thanks for the shower-vape tips, Parma! :laugh:

The 510 to 510 adapter is purely whatever you prefer at this point. Once you screw an atty or carto in a few (several) times it gets pretty easy. The threads are very precise. And, though the brass is soft, the threads on the atty/carto are even softer. You are much more likely to mess up the carto than the Darwin. If you are the type to be in a hurry then I would suggest leaving the adapter.

On the new logos..... I noticed the same thing. It is a bit rough. I too am hoping it wears a bit.

I have tried just about every atty/carto combination out there on this thing and none have let me down. It seems for me anyway that the 8.4/8.5 watts setting works for absolutely everything no matter what the ohms on the atty/carto. Flavor and vapor are always perfect. I simply prefer the 5120 cartos from boge at 3.2 ohm. They last the longest before having to throw them away and the plus of not having to drip or refill every 2 minutes.

Glad you liked my shower trick. Also good to know I am not the only one so addicted as to try to figure out a way to vape safely in the shower. HeHe! I can give yet another tip for that. I ordered a bunch of those long q-tips like they use at the doctors office for use with my sewing and embroidery machines (for adding oil in tight places). When I got them they came in the most awesome ziplock baggies. The baggie is 2 inches wide by just over 6 inches long. They fit the Darwin like a glove. My only problem now is that I have no clue what online store I ordered them from.

And, I won't gloat about having two perfect Darwins anymore. I wouldn't want anyone to drown in their own drool.:laugh: Funny thing is that I wanted 2 so that I would never be without one in the event one ever had to go in for repair. 24 hours into having 2 of them and I already can't imagine how I will be able to function with only 1 when the other needs repair. :oops:

Well now I am back to trying to find an airbrush artist to paint my twins. I still think I want a pink camo paintjob. That way all the men folk will leave my precious Darwins alone. They are mine I tell you, ALL MINE!
 

Sewknitty

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Nov 12, 2010
1,425
98
NY
shesaquitter.wordpress.com
... And, though the brass is soft, the threads on the atty/carto are even softer. You are much more likely to mess up the carto than the Darwin. If you are the type to be in a hurry then I would suggest leaving the adapter.
...

The baggie is 2 inches wide by just over 6 inches long. They fit the Darwin like a glove. My only problem now is that I have no clue what online store I ordered them from.

And, I won't gloat about having two perfect Darwins anymore. I wouldn't want anyone to drown in their own drool.:laugh: Funny thing is that I wanted 2 so that I would never be without one in the event one ever had to go in for repair. 24 hours into having 2 of them and I already can't imagine how I will be able to function with only 1 when the other needs repair. :oops:

Well now I am back to trying to find an airbrush artist to paint my twins. I still think I want a pink camo paintjob. That way all the men folk will leave my precious Darwins alone. They are mine I tell you, ALL MINE!

Oh, thanks for the assurance re the connector, Parma. I may take the adapter out tomorrow to see which way I enjoy it most.

And, those q-tips...I'm on a hunt for them for those shower bags. :laugh: Hey, are you going to embroider Darwin onto a little case? I refuse to be the first one to admit such a thing!

I didn't really see it as gloating, Parma. Seriously, a light bulb went off (then blinked out...what a day it's been)! As soon as Vapour gets his I may begin dropping broad hints about a twin! It's a 'thing' with me, to have a backup for my backups. When I was quitting analogs I'd cram about 5 minis into a case and still find myself driving home with nary a vape. Now I pack up as if for the apocalypse even if I'm just running to the store. Never know about traffic jams or alien abductions that could keep me from my supply for awhile.

Can't wait to see the paint jobs!
 

Parmacrafter

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 15, 2009
1,879
7,666
56
Parma, Idaho, USA
George,
After having left one of my Darwins in the on position for over 24 hours and the other darwin only in the on position while in use I saw not even the slightest difference in battery level between the two. So if I use that as a rough guide, that would mean it would likely take a month of being on but not used. Ummmmmmmmmm, nope, can't do it. Even for the sake of science.

Another note: Had to run into town today. I live in a very rural area, so running to town means an hour drive each way. Being as how I like to actually watch the road and not have to dig around looking for my ecig, I figured out a way to keep my 2 darwins together so I could keep them in my hand. If you use a heavy rubber band and band them together facing the same direction, you can vape either or both of them at the same time and never have to take you eyes off the road.
 

Parmacrafter

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 15, 2009
1,879
7,666
56
Parma, Idaho, USA
Sewknitty,
I have already started planning that very thing. Was thinking about making a quilted pouch (kinda like a belt loop knife case style) that would hold both of them side by side. I will most likely run a stitch line down the center so they don't rub on each other. Planning to make a flap that will fold over the top and velcro closed. I am trying to find a Darwin signature in an embroidery design pre-made so that I don't have to Digitize it myself that I would put across the front.

And no, I am not afraid to be first to admit all the frilly things I have planned for my Darwins. Just because they are built like tanks doesn't mean they can't be pretty.
 

georgea

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 2, 2009
73
3
Vernon Hills, IL
Not even for science? Yeah, me neither. hehe I love my Darwin too much to neglect it.
You convinced me. Now I need a second one, crap! I mean, Woohoo!

George,
After having left one of my Darwins in the on position for over 24 hours and the other darwin only in the on position while in use I saw not even the slightest difference in battery level between the two. So if I use that as a rough guide, that would mean it would likely take a month of being on but not used. Ummmmmmmmmm, nope, can't do it. Even for the sake of science.

Another note: Had to run into town today. I live in a very rural area, so running to town means an hour drive each way. Being as how I like to actually watch the road and not have to dig around looking for my ecig, I figured out a way to keep my 2 darwins together so I could keep them in my hand. If you use a heavy rubber band and band them together facing the same direction, you can vape either or both of them at the same time and never have to take you eyes off the road.
 

Krisb

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Sep 25, 2010
2,638
424
OH
Georgea, You said you have both a MAP and an AVS...is the AVS really worth the cost, I mean does it really work that much better than the MAP? I just got a MAP and am loving it, but prior to them coming out I had my eye on an AVS.

Question 2- What ohm ce2 are you using in the MAP at what setting on the Darwin? I'm hoping to get a Darwin from the next batch that comes out and trying to do my HW before hand so I have everything I need...OK, yes, I'm just obsessing over the Darwin...but that's beside the point, LOL.
 

andel11

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 27, 2009
1,299
469
74
Bay Area, Ca
I am trying to think of what color yarn I am going to have my sister knit me up a carrying tote for my Darwin. We all want 2. I know I just like to have a backup of anything I get. I usually get 2 of everything I order and its paid off in some cases when one PV has stops working or something gets lost. I think though that I will wait a little just to see if they come up with something else different. I thought Angus was hinting last nite about a Darwin 2 and 3. He may have been joking but who knows. HEY they might even decide on colors.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread