The Darwin From Evolv!!!

[Killjoy1]

I might do that to use it with liquinator. Thanks for the tip.

When using a tank mod I generally just leave the arm up unless I'm putting my PV down for an extended period (like when I'm at work), in which case I just remove it. Leaving the unit on doesn't noticeably drain the battery life at all, so if that's what you're worried about you really don't need to.

Haven't used a gooseneck, myself, though I have heard good things about them

 

[Panky]

These same people 'claim' that they will not touch a PV unless it weighs a ton, is 'all mechanical', and can survive orbital reentry and submersion to the bottom of the Indian Ocean without a parachute.

This one gave me a good laugh

 

[VapingMattCA]

The reason to have 4 slots instead of 2 is some cartos that are coming out have their vent holes in different places and some cartos like the Bud Saphire are sensitive to air flow. Don't get me wrong I love my Darwin! It is the only device I use. If you shine a light through the wheel area you can see the circuit board. I wouldn;t think getting juice in there would be a good thing unless the board is sealed inside the unit. Electronically the Darwin is the best device available!

 

[cuseguy]

The reason to have 4 slots instead of 2 is some cartos that are coming out have their vent holes in different places and some cartos like the Bud Saphire are sensitive to air flow. Don't get me wrong I love my Darwin! It is the only device I use. If you shine a light through the wheel area you can see the circuit board. I wouldn;t think getting juice in there would be a good thing unless the board is sealed inside the unit. Electronically the Darwin is the best device available!

Juice in the Darwin pcb area has been explored and tested pretty extensively. There have been instances of juice spilled and or poured directly through the dial area onto the pcb and the Darwin did shut down.....temporarily until it dried. But that was literally a direct pcb hit and done by Brandon@Evolv, himself from what I recall! And that was a version 1 or a pre-release Darwin from what I remember...it was early on, I know. Long before the revised self-check system. The Darwin has a forged compartment for the arm inside the case, which contains any juice that would ever possibly seep through the arm, keeping it away from the electronics. Overall, juice doing internal damage has not been a known issue of The Darwin to any real extent. It gets talked about, but never really happens.

 

[NebulaBrot]

VMC, I had the first sold ProVari and I found the draw too airy. Of course EVERYTHING in vaping is subjective. My ProVari was replaced 2x and all had too airy a draw for my attys and cartos - again, for my preference. IMO, darwin's draw is far superior. FWIW, I believe the newest rounds of Darwins are shipping with a new sealed 510 to 510 adapter and I also believe these do have the 4 groves you prefer. If your Darwin does not have this adapter, you can get them easily and cheaply enough. You might check with Drew as I would imagine he might carry them.

As for the circuit board being potentially exposed to juice, I am fairly confident I read that Evolv uses Conformal Coating on their boards. While a completely sealed board might be a preferable design (belt and suspenders), I have had Darwin since the last preproduction prototype (posted about that earliest version in the review section of ECF). I am a dedicated dripper (posted about that in this thread) and only recently started using cartos for certain juices. I have tried almost every atty and carto made on Darwin, FOG tank, various carto tanks, with and without gooseneck, etc and have never had any problems with juice getting into my Darwins. My preferred atty is the Joye 302 (801 style) and 801 style attys are known for leaking if over dripped upon (directly downward facing air intake holes) - again, no probs on any of my devices from leaked juice.

As Evolv warranties these devices for 2 full years (and the batts for a full year), and we can clearly see (just read this thread) how far above and beyond Evolv's customer service is, I think your concern may be an unnecessary worry.

I too love Darwin. I have had over 30 devices and now use Darwin 99+ percent of the time. I have sold and/or given away most of my collection. Occasionally I grab a different device for a specific juice or carto (like if I want unregulated 6+ volts on a dual coil) but I have just not found any other device that hits with the power consistency and longevity of Darwin - not to mention that Darwin is by FAR the most pocketable HV device on the market as well as easiest to use. Regulated Power, as compared to regulated voltage and/or regulated watts, is - so far - the best vaping I have experienced.

Happy

 

[tiputus]

Now that I'm waiting for my Darwin to arrive I'm curious to know how I should do the first charge? It has probably been mentioned here several times, but I haven't read the hole thread as it's freaking long Sorry about my lazyness... Also don't know if it comes with manual included which instructs about first charge. So, can I start using it right out of the box or do I have to give it a massive 16-24h first charge? It's already in Finland Should get it tomorrow or tuesday. I also guess that I'm the very first in Finland who owns one, at least none of the guys at finnish ecig forum replied when I was asking if someone owns Darwin

 

[otrem]

congratulations... mine is tethered to its charger when im home.

 

[Credo]

Now that I'm waiting for my Darwin to arrive I'm curious to know how I should do the first charge? It has probably been mentioned here several times, but I haven't read the hole thread as it's freaking long Sorry about my lazyness... Also don't know if it comes with manual included which instructs about first charge. So, can I start using it right out of the box or do I have to give it a massive 16-24h first charge? It's already in Finland Should get it tomorrow or tuesday. I also guess that I'm the very first in Finland who owns one, at least none of the guys at finnish ecig forum replied when I was asking if someone owns Darwin

Li-Poly batteries, so the memory problems of older batteries are minimal to non existent.
Li-Poly batteries are also shipped and stored with a decent percentage of charge in them...they last longer on the shelves that way.

Plug it in and give it 10 or 15 minutes to trickle in enough fire to drive an atty.

Avoid the dual or triple coil stuff unless you're going to charge it fully before hitting it, as these things call for mondo amperage. You might also want to reach for your regular or hv (single coil 2.5 Ohms and up) stuff if you have a choice in the matter, as the LR stuff will ask for more amps up front.

With any other atty/carto....
You can surely toke it moderately while it's still plugged in and charging.
Within' an hour or so you should be good to hit it as hard as you like even if it's not fully charged yet

You certainly wont be the first to toke away with fairly low battery on a brand new Darwin on a usb cord

What's great about the Darwin, is you get the same power every toke....from fully charged to the last toke it can deliver. Several folks have suggested not to let the Darwin battery drain fully if you can avoid it....but I think it has internal electronics to prevent you from damaging the battery...plus it is warranted for a year. So enjoy

 

[tiputus]

congratulations... mine is tethered to its charger when im home.

Well in that case congrats to you too... ( little bit envious )

 

[tiputus]

Li-Poly batteries, so the memory problems of older batteries are minimal to non existent.
Li-Poly batteries are also shipped and stored with a decent percentage of charge in them...they last longer on the shelves that way.

Plug it in and give it 10 or 15 minutes to trickle in enough fire to drive an atty.

Avoid the dual or triple coil stuff unless you're going to charge it fully before hitting it, as these things call for mondo amperage. You might also want to reach for your regular or hv (single coil 2.5 Ohms and up) stuff if you have a choice in the matter, as the LR stuff will ask for more amps up front.

With any other atty/carto....
You can surely toke it moderately while it's still plugged in and charging.
Within' an hour or so you should be good to hit it as hard as you like even if it's not fully charged yet

You certainly wont be the first to toke away with fairly low battery on a brand new Darwin on a usb cord

What's great about the Darwin, is you get the same power every toke....from fully charged to the last toke it can deliver. Several folks have suggested not to let the Darwin battery drain fully if you can avoid it....but I think it has internal electronics to prevent you from damaging the battery...plus it is warranted for a year. So enjoy

Thank You SO much for your reply. I mostly use dual coil cartos, so I might as well wait 2-3 hours more and let it charge full before using it if that's all it needs to be used with any atty/cart etc instead of long charge marathon. So happy I ordered it. I already feel so good that almost forgot that I spent money on it...

 

[lowboy]

If you wait a full 2-3 hours for it to charge some you will be the first as far as I know.
Most have to use it right out of the box..................LOL
Me included.

 

[tiputus]

If you wait a full 2-3 hours for it to charge some you will be the first as far as I know.
Most have to use it right out of the box..................LOL
Me included.

With dual coil cartos as well??? Drew and Nebula, give me a hand here. Don't know if I should or shouldn't use it right away out of the box with dc cartos...

 

[lowboy]

May post was meant to be funny.
Let it charge before you use DC cartos.

 

[debook]

Mine showed up Friday afternoon with maybe a little less than half the battery charge which lasted the rest of the day.

What's really impressive is that after a full charge overnight, I used the Darwin pretty heavily all day yesterday and the battery was around half full still at the end of the day. I know this has been gone over extensively here so I won't go on and on, but it is an impressive mod - rugged, pocketable, versatile and the power regulation makes a big difference in the vape.

As far as juice on the PCB, I used a flashlight to look through the power adjustment wheel and it appears that the PCB has some form of conformal coating as it has that 'shine' to it, but can't tell if that's the PCB itself or if it was done after component placement. Either way, from what I can tell it would take a lot of juice in there to create a short, much more than what I think may result from the occasional overdrip. If there is a conformal coating to class 3 electronics standards (consumer devices), then that adds a level of resistance to moisture intrusion that would make it nearly impossible for this to occur under normal usage. Shouldn't be any cause for concern as far as I can tell.

 

[tiputus]

May post was meant to be funny.
Let it charge before you use DC cartos.

Ou... ok. Now when you said it I get it.

 

[lowboy]

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[alexp843]

First let me say I got 4 Darwins and love them....BUT...I have been watching all the back and forth here about duel coils and juice leaking not being a problem and all the other questions people have. I'm going to say it again, I am really disappointed in that there is no definitive document or guide from the manufacture. It is a real shame that a quality device doesnt come with documentation that people can rely on instead of having to go to Russian sites for pics and specs that may be wrong and listening to everyones thoughts on how to best utilize the device...Again wake up Evolve put out a document.

 

[NebulaBrot]

Thank You SO much for your reply. I mostly use dual coil cartos, so I might as well wait 2-3 hours more and let it charge full before using it if that's all it needs to be used with any atty/cart etc instead of long charge marathon. So happy I ordered it. I already feel so good that almost forgot that I spent money on it...

What Credo and others have posted is correct. The Darwin battery does have a cut-off to prevent draining the batt beyond a certain point. Dual coils and LR stuff will pull more amps and higher amps draw drains batts faster. That said, if your Darwin arrives with visible charge showing on the indicator, use it. Just realize that the indicator is not an exact gauge. The indicator hangs at full for several hours before it begins to drop so if the gauge shows half, that is less than half. Do not make any conclusions about how much batt life you get based on that gauge on first use (formulate your opinion after a few full charge cycles and regular daily use). If you are near power, I'd suggest you use it as passthru if you are going to use dual coils right away. Personally, I just plug mine in each night before bed and charge while I sleep. General consensus from the batt experts (that's not me) is that lithium polymer batts prefer being topped off rather than drained regularly to cut-off.

For the passthru feature (using while plugged in) the power passes thru the battery (not direct AC power to atty/carto) so you are still vaping off the battery even while plugged in. So, if you are at the bottom of usable batt life (at cut-off), you may have to let it charge for a little bit before using. Heavy vaping, and heavy amps drain (like LR & DCc), can possibly drain the batt faster than it can charge (depending on how you use it). So, if you are at cut-off and plug in and then immediately heavy drain, you can vape it right back down to cut-off. This is why some say to let it charge for 20+ minutes before beginning to use. However, if there is noticeable power left on the gauge, you can plug in and use with a pretty high degree of confidence that you will not vape it right down to cut-off.

I realize this is a very long thread, and certainly not without some social detours (some are pretty entertaining). However, there are many posts and discussions in here about dual coil cartos and others about charging. At the top of the page, just below the "Likes" counter, use the "Search this thread" feature and search for "dual coils" and "dual coil" and for "charging". The results you get are probably worth your time to read and may answer many questions for you. This is a very helpful group and I am sure plenty will be happy to help you. But, having been here from the very beginning (BTW, where is MY T-Shirt??!!), I can tell you that there is not much about Darwin - and any/every-thing that could possibly be discussed related - that has not been covered to some extent.

Hope you enjoy your Darwin as much as well all do.

 

[mwa102464]

Ordered the new Darwin unit this morning from Drew, looking forward to owning one of these units finally. I wanted to wait a while before ordering a Darwin for many reasons and glad I'm finally going to have a brand new Darwin. Looks like many good people in this thread to answer any questions, including you Nebs

 

[Katdarling]

Thank You SO much for your reply. I mostly use dual coil cartos, so I might as well wait 2-3 hours more and let it charge full before using it if that's all it needs to be used with any atty/cart etc instead of long charge marathon. So happy I ordered it. I already feel so good that almost forgot that I spent money on it...

Welcome and congrats on your D'win! Here's a link that may or may not be helpful: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ything-you-ever-wanted-know-about-darwin.html

Nebula, you didn't get your T-shirt yet?