The Darwin From Evolv!!!

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NebulaBrot

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That's so funny.. I've NEVER seen the "short symbol" before... dont even know what it looks like : P

Also, welcome and congrats!!
Just for general information - if the Darwin shorts you see three indications. The first thing is the device will not fire. The second is the battery gauge goes to empty. The third is the Evolv logo changes to what sort of looks like a no-smoking symbol. If you encounter these, do not just continue to try to fire the device. Unthread and gently (to finger snug only) rethread the atty and then try again carefully monitoring for any of these indicators. If even one comes up, replace the atty or carto. If you are using an adapter, try a new adapter (adapters go bad as the internal gaskets soften and the positive terminal can move to touch the sides or can develop internal shorts which may or may not be visible).

Primary point here is if you encounter any of these - do not continue to try to fire the device without watching carefully for these indicators. If you ignore these indicators, you can end up triggering the secondary hardware short circuit protection and the device will have to be sent into Evolv for repair. The indicators are there for a reason - NEVER ignore them.


EDIT: another thing which "can" (but rarely does) cause the short circuit protection to activate is juice in between the atty base and the connector. So, if you experience any of the above listed indicators, another thing you can do is remover the atty/carto and make sure the threads and inside the connector are all clean of any accumulated juice (juice CAN come out the bottom of an atty/carto connection). then, again, rethread to only finger tip snug - never overtighten atty/carto threading

Also, for general information - pay attention to juice. If you ever notice any juice on the device - immediately search out where it is coming from and clean it. If you drip, use dripshields or DCAs and ALWAYS watch for leaking juice. Juice leaks are ALWAYS USER ERROR and you do not want that juice getting in thru the button or adjustment wheel. The Darwin has been progressively more and more sealed to prevent juice damage. But there are certainly realities - no way to completely seal the button (short of redesigning the device) and if enough juice gets into the button it can gunk up the internal physical button and cause it to stick. There is no way to completely seal the potentiometer. The pot IS juice resistant but not juice-proof, if enough juice pools on the pot - it can interfere with the proper functioning of the potentiometer.

No device is perfect. Evolv tech, including Darwin, is the most advanced and consistent vaping on the market today. A little bit of awareness can prevent most issues as many of the issues really do ultimately result from some sort of user error and/or lack of awareness. Paying attention to your device and juicing habits can go a long way to getting the most from any device - including Darwins.
 
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Ive never seen that short symbol either. LOL. I guess all my adapters are good then, huh? Another use for the Darwin.. Adapter Tester..

Heres what a Z-Atty-P looks like on a Darwin.. Works great,, Had to use a long adapter tho..
 

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Ive never seen that short symbol either. LOL. I guess all my adapters are good then, huh? Another use for the Darwin.. Adapter Tester..

Heres what a Z-Atty-P looks like on a Darwin.. Works great,, Had to use a long adapter tho..

I have a friend who bought a Provari just to test the ohms on his rebuildables, I was like, dude, you could use a DMM for that, I think he just wanted a vari though
 

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On the adapter issue, I just found out how finnicy these damn things can be, I have an ACTv3, I took it to Hawaii with me, but never used it, it rode in my checked luggage, I got back and figured I'd pull it out and fill it up, done, slapped it on my Opus, and nothing, I'm guessing it jacked up my Opus, still waiting to get it back, but after a couple of days I picked it back up and realized the center post is loose, I touch it and it comes right off in my hand, I was like, well, I guess that's what happened to my Opus.

I'm just glad I didn't fire that thing on my Legacy first.
 

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On the adapter issue, I just found out how finnicy these damn things can be, I have an ACTv3, I took it to Hawaii with me, but never used it, it rode in my checked luggage, I got back and figured I'd pull it out and fill it up, done, slapped it on my Opus, and nothing, I'm guessing it jacked up my Opus, still waiting to get it back, but after a couple of days I picked it back up and realized the center post is loose, I touch it and it comes right off in my hand, I was like, well, I guess that's what happened to my Opus.

I'm just glad I didn't fire that thing on my Legacy first.
Opus short circuit protection is same as Darwin's because Opus is using Evolv DNA inside. Just no display to tell you the other two indicators so your ONLY indicator is no fire. If that happens, same as above in my last post.

ALL adapters ARE disposable in that they will NOT last forever. juice WILL get into them and damage the internal seals, installing/removing them will loosen the internal parts over time. Just raising awareness to the realities of our gear and paying attention to these issues will reduce chances of problems.

Before sending anything to Evolv, always check these factors and if you cannot find any (after replacing adapters and attys/cartos), then contact Evovl and carefully write out your details as they may be able to offer you suggestions that could avoid your having to send it in. If it needs to be sent in, Evolv will know (as long as you provide sufficient accurate details) and they will tell you if it needs to go to them for repair.
 
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Oh no neb, it wouldn't fire at all after that, I fired it once with the ACTv3 and switched to another tank, and nothing, when just seconds before it worked with that tank.

The ACTv3 has an integrated adapter in the bottom cap, and the only thing I can figure is the decompression in the plane or something caused that to happen.
 

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While I am NOT saying this happened - it CAN happen. When I fly, my tanks leak (regardless if they are on or off the device). They do not leak much but it does come out the connector end. As I wrote above, juice pooled in the connector (under atty/carto) can cause the short circuit protection to activate and on Opus your only indicator is no fire.

Obviously I have no clue what happened in your case and would not even venture any guess. I just fly enough and have been using Evolv tech long enough to have experienced ALL of these issues and now know how to avoid them.
 

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I was thinking of the juice issue with it getting into the darwin and the 1st thing that came to mind is liquipel technology. If you haven't heard of it youtube it. Its amazing. It was designed for cellphones but could easily be applied to ecigs. It's a nano coating that goes on the entire electrical board of a cellphone that basically makes it waterproof. Like you can drop it in water and literally nothing happens to it. It would be nice to be able to give the darwin a bath now and again. Lol! Or vape in the shower.
 

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This tank was empty until I got back, so it wasn't juice, I've never quite seen a connector do that before, I mean the whole center of the connector came off in my hand, so my guess is it caused a short when I fired my Opus. I've broken connectors off on devices, I've seen them split in half, in the case of one, my friend had, the whole connector separated from the tube and the polyfil coil and all came out of the tube, but in my year I have never had one do that.
 

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I was thinking of the juice issue with it getting into the darwin and the 1st thing that came to mind is liquipel technology. If you haven't heard of it youtube it. Its amazing. It was designed for cellphones but could easily be applied to ecigs. It's a nano coating that goes on the entire electrical board of a cellphone that basically makes it waterproof. Like you can drop it in water and literally nothing happens to it. It would be nice to be able to give the darwin a bath now and again. Lol! Or vape in the shower.
As I mentioned, Darwins have undergone several revisions mostly having to do with various ways to make them more impregnable to juice. The circuitry IS conformal coated but the button (internal physical button) and potentiometer are both moving parts and cannot be 100% juice "proof". Both are liquid resistant but not "proof" - at least as far as I know.

Following the suggestions in my last posts is the best way to care for Darwin and Opus.

The last suggestion, which has been discussed many times, is to not run the batt to cut-off on a regular basis. These have smart charge circuitry which stops charge when full so safe leaving them charge overnight. Many post about getting 2 or 3 days from a charge and this is a mistake. Regularly running these types of batteries to cut-off can, over time, reduce the overall number of recharge cycles and can also potentially reduce useable life per charge cycle. Best to charge regularly and often. I just plug in all my Evolv devices at night when I sleep and all good for next day.

I've been using Darwins since preproduction prototype (12/10) and I can tell you that if you take good care of your Darwin, it will take good care of you.
 

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As promised.
I just got a text about the third and final test on my grandson.
He is one fine healthy baby boy with nothing wrong with him, other than he has a pap pa like me..........LOL

I want to thank everybody for their prayers and concerns.
I said all along that the hospital and Drs here did not know what they was doing.
BUT............ I did not want to take a chance they was actually doing their job right this time.
Thanks again to everyone.

Thanks Drew for allowing me to clog up your thread.
 
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Awesome news LB and congrats. Now just enjoy and spoil him. That is a Pop Pa's job so take it very seriously. I know my dad does and in the 15 years since we provided him with his first granddaughter I have NEVER heard him say NO to either her or her sister. Significantly different than how I remember him acting when I was a kid :).
 

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LB, congrats. I am happy for your Grandson and your entire family. As L2S said, spoil him rotten, sugar him up b4 returning him to his parents and buy him lots of obnoxiously loud toys.

Yup that is exactly what happens when the dormant grandparent gene kicks in. My Dad was giving them cans of Pepsi when they were 2. Then the SOB would send them home. But alas I have informed him that I will remember these digressions when I am choosing his nursing home one day :)
 
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