The Darwin From Evolv!!!

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Liv2Ski

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I haven't seen any of us who have a Darwin "trashing" the ProVari but I do know that at least some of the trash talking is by some who purchased a ProVari. It's like they are insulted that we would dare pass up a ProVari for the Darwin and that we lack any common sense. Geesh, it's a PV not the Holy Grail!!

wv2win - stupid beats logic hands down. Even when stating I own both and each rocks they still discuss stupid. There is no beating them. Don't stress, just dial up some wattage, load three drops, open a beer and vape away knowing your gear is top notch.
 

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That has been accused and I offered to wire a cellphone buzzer intoi the Vari since she has also made comment about it looking like a toy. Figured the best of both worlds with that type of MOD. Maybe onto something here could call it the vape-n-play! Keep smiling Krisb

At the Atlanta Vape Fest some of us talking with Brandon suggested they add two little prongs and it can double as a Taser!!
 

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Yeah, I have only done it with a 510HV atty at 4.5 ohms. That was 7.3 volts and it wasn't bad! Not burning like one would expect. A little warm but nice.

Thanks cuseguy. You have answered two burning questions and now I will sleep easier tonight. It's those little things that you just can't get out of your head.
 

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wv2win - stupid beats logic hands down. Even when stating I own both and each rocks they still discuss stupid. There is no beating them. Don't stress, just dial up some wattage, load three drops, open a beer and vape away knowing your gear is top notch.

I hear ya and agree completely. I'm using 801 attys (BE112's and mini 801's) as well as 801 cartos and they all rock on the Darwin. I need to pull out some of my old, forgotten attys and see how they do.
 

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ROFL, L2S!! Vape-n-play...love it!! You would need many investors to gather up enough capital to handle the customer load!

I was actually REALLY thinking about this. Not sure my wife would agree with my door to door marketing ploy and offering free demonstrations through. I do beleive it would sell. Even thought about some sort of silcone sheathing, you know different colors and textures. But alas it will probably die on the vine like my combination strip club (winter) Harley rental (summer) plan I was working on for a place in Jackson Hole. Damn I even had heli skiing in the plan. Found a used chopper, had a pilot lined up and a chopper mechanic. It is always nice to dream right???
 

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I hear ya and agree completely. I'm using 801 attys (BE112's and mini 801's) as well as 801 cartos and they all rock on the Darwin. I need to pull out some of my old, forgotten attys and see how they do.

You will be super gald you saved them. Dial up the wattage and bam, goldmine! I know that is what I found with a baggie full of weak 510's when I firts got the Vari. It was like finding $200!!!!!
 

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wv2win - stupid beats logic hands down. Even when stating I own both and each rocks they still discuss stupid. There is no beating them. Don't stress, just dial up some wattage, load three drops, open a beer and vape away knowing your gear is top notch.

Speaking of gear buddy, did said gear from Super-T arrive yet? My Black Vari is due on Monday btw.
 

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taser...hmm, still like the vape-n-play idea better, lol. I mean, really, what are we supposed to do while you guys are off in vaping nirvana with one hand and typing in the forums with the other?

Exactly with this idea I would NOT be typing. I would be vaping and going through batts like crazy. OK maybe a prototype is in order. I will leave out the door to door sales idea so at least she will be a willing test subject for the prototype before going into full production.
 

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Speaking of gear buddy, did said gear from Super-T arrive yet? My Black Vari is due on Monday btw.

I will place another bet and say the Vari will beat the P-10. I sent him an email Wednesday explaining the hellish plane schedule I am facing next week and he said he would push it ahead and it should be here by Tues. As I said this was to be the stealth stick for those flights. Keeping my fingers crossed. I will be bringing the Darwin since USB charging works so well but that bad boy is not really airline friendly!
 
LOL, I was just giving that a read. Apparently some people are a bit sensitive about being wrong! Both are awesome and if I could get another right now without feeling guilty, I would get a provari as my secondary PV, second, of course, to my Darwin. I, too, was a little worried about the size and looks, but honestly it doesn't feel nearly as big as I had anticipated and the looks are much more discreet than I thought. I definitely feel I made the right call. When and if I buy another PV (if?..who am I kidding?? lol) I would, given the choices out there right now, buy a provari, but I am really hoping Evolv comes out with another someday.

Now, if they could offer colors like a GLV...life would be nice!

you mean like this?
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Can anyone explain the extreme "Darwin Trashing" and misinformation that some on ECF and other forums are so vehement about. Here are some of the remarks I have read about the Darwin:

* it's made of plastic
* the arm is made of plastic
* the arm breaks off after a few days use
* juice on the body will kill it
* it's ugly
* it costs $300
* you will be lucky if the batteries last 6 months.
* the supplier does not stand behind the product
* you can't drip with it
* the warranty is a scam
* it's too big to fit in your hand

Some of these remarks seem to be from those who like the ProVari. I personally have only praised the ProVari as being one of the two top PV's on the market. But I just don't get this vehement trashing of the Darwin.
Clearly we have seen "fanboys" in many threads over many devices. There are some posters who "trash" without ever having seen, touched or vaped on the device. There are some who go to threads posting negatively for unknown reasons. Some just do not have anything better to do with their time.

After several rounds of production Darwins, one has but to read this thread to see the truth - happy Darwin owners. Each has their own reasons. No device is "perfect" and there will always be naysayers who will find any "flaw" and embellish. Everything vaping is subjective "this is the best atty", "this is the best juice", "LR is better than HV", "HV is better than LR" etc. ad nauseum. People who are fanboys of one device often defend them by criticizing another. The bottom line, it does not matter. Those who try Darwin's and like them, simply enjoy. Any device is a purchase risk and we all know if we buy one and don't like it - we can sell it. There are other devices those people may vehemently rave about and/or defend that others would not touch. It does not matter. I don't care what devices other people like, what juices they like, which attys or cartos....

These statements are blatantly incorrect and all of those of us with Darwins know the facts:

Myth: it's made of plastic -- Fact: double hard anodized aluminum
Myth: the arm is made of plastic -- Fact: Brass
Myth: the arm breaks off after a few days use -- Fact: none have broken off (at least none posted) and given the construction design as shown in the photo just posted - not even possible (brass dumbbell shape surrounded by double hard anodized aluminum body)
Myth: juice on the body will kill it -- Fact: juice on the body will not harm it at all. If excessive amounts juice get INTO the body can cause some problems - as would be true with any device. Clearly, Evolv is constantly monitoring ALL feedback and constantly making changes as any competent electronics manufacturer does (can anyone say Apple?).
Opinion: it's ugly -- Fact: looks are in the eye of the beholder. Some love the looks of Darwin and others might prefer it look like all other tubes. Others still may not love the looks but do love the performance.
Myth: it costs $300 -- Fact: $229 clearly posted everywhere. Eclipse will be more and Provari "CAN" be more as a total package (won't get into this again, I said originally "as a total package" and others decided to argue. No point in re-hashing so I won't respond if anyone argues this point. It is what it is and those who buy them are not complaining. Fact: SOLD OUT!
Myth: you will be lucky if the batteries last 6 months -- Fact: batts are rated up to 1,000 charge cycles and warranted for a full year (replacements - after that first YEAR - $25 and come with a new full year warranty - according to Evolv). No other vape battery has such a warranty.
Myth: the supplier does not stand behind the product -- Fact: we have seen a few posted problematic units, as with every device, and seen Evolv address each one to the very happy satisfaction of the purchaser - often in just a couple of days.
Myth: you can't drip with it -- Fact: you CAN drip with it and many of us do each and every day with no problems at all. Some people have not yet learned how to drip without flooding and leaking and that is a function of the person and attys used.
Myth: the warranty is a scam -- Fact: the waranty is iron-clad as we have seen with the few problematic units - All resolved tot he satisfaction of the purchaser.
Myth: it's too big to fit in your hand -- Fact: as thin as an iPhone
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I am not representing Evolv and have no financial interest in Darwin, NHaler or any vape device, manufacturer or any vaping products of any kind. I just know what I like, my top line-up of devices is in my sig line - that which is first is FIRST.

I close this post with what has also been part of my signature line almost since joining ECF:
"The only stupid consumer is the one who denies himself enjoyment because of the opinions of others."
 
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Thanks was wondering how it would push 12.8v without a load. So have you maxed it out at 12.7W and if so with what atty? I have some Iken HV's but at 10.3 they are drawing 6.2v not sure I want to push much harder than that.

I tried my Iken HV 801 up to the 12.7v just to see how it performed. The vape was warm not harsh, but the only thing was that the atomizer or I should say the(my) atomizer does get hot to touch fast. It did perform well with the atomizer but I didn't want to continue to risk my atomizer, I just wanted to see what it was like. I also tried Iken HV 901 and another HV 510 at that voltage, no damage to the atomizer tube itself gets too hot.
My best performance with the Darwin is Iken LR/HV 801's at 8.5, flavor and vape out of this world.
 
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